scim-qtimm for KDE4.

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Huang Peng-2

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Hi SCIM hackers,

Currently, most Linux distributions will translate their KDE to 4.0. Do we have plan to port scim-qtimm to QT4?

Regards
Huang Peng

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Hello,

scim-qtimm-cvs supports qt4 (but it doen't support qt3).
Please check them:
http://www.nabble.com/forum/ViewPost.jtp?post=11430161&framed=y
http://www.nabble.com/forum/ViewPost.jtp?post=12708583&framed=y

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Dear Huang Peng,

On 2 april you wrote:
>Hi SCIM hackers,
>
>Currently, most Linux distributions will translate their KDE to 4.0. Do we
>have plan to port scim-qtimm to QT4?
>
>Regards
>Huang Peng

I am afraid that one after each other, the programmers have become to busy
with real life (tm) and therefor do not find time anymore for SCIM (what is
of course their good right).

Ronald Stroethoff

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Does this mean, there is no scim support for KDE4?

Gerrit Sangel

Am Donnerstag 03 April 2008 schrieb Ronald Stroethoff:

> Dear Huang Peng,
>
> On 2 april you wrote:
> >Hi SCIM hackers,
> >
> >Currently, most Linux distributions will translate their KDE to 4.0. Do we
> >have plan to port scim-qtimm to QT4?
> >
> >Regards
> >Huang Peng
>
> I am afraid that one after each other, the programmers have become to busy
> with real life (tm) and therefor do not find time anymore for SCIM (what is
> of course their good right).
>
> Ronald Stroethoff
>

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I plan to port skim to kde4 some time (hopefully before kde 4.1), but
can't promise anything now. any help is appreciated

On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 9:32 PM, Gerrit Sangel <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Does this mean, there is no scim support for KDE4?
>
>  Gerrit Sangel
>
>  Am Donnerstag 03 April 2008 schrieb Ronald Stroethoff:
>
>
> > Dear Huang Peng,
>  >
>  > On 2 april you wrote:
>  > >Hi SCIM hackers,
>  > >
>  > >Currently, most Linux distributions will translate their KDE to 4.0. Do we
>  > >have plan to port scim-qtimm to QT4?
>  > >
>  > >Regards
>  > >Huang Peng
>  >
>  > I am afraid that one after each other, the programmers have become to busy
>  > with real life (tm) and therefor do not find time anymore for SCIM (what is
>  > of course their good right).
>  >
>  > Ronald Stroethoff
>  >
>
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Hello,

I am no programmer, but if you need any help with bugfixing and so on, ask me.


I have another question, maybe a bit off topic:
In my opinion, all the input methods under Linux feel a bit “seperated” from
the rest of the input methods from X.org. I have to switch these QT_IM_MODULE
variables and so on, then I have two different icons in the tray bar of kde
to switch input methods, first for German (because I have two different
German keybaord layouts), and then another one for East Asian (scim); some
applications don’t even work with scim and so on. This shouldn’t be anything
of not appreciating the work you guys put in scim, but I am wondering
(because the input methods are (I guess you have to admit that) much more
convenient under MacOS X or Windows) what do you think (or maybe you already
thought about it) to cooperate with the guys from X.org to “unify” the entire
input methods (scim and “normal” keyboard layouts) and trying to solve the
problems that still occur and making scim the default input mode for X?

I hope you don’t misunderstand me, I really appreciate your work (I couldn’t
have done it), but I am really wondering why this is still a bit clumsy under
Linux in comparison with Mac OS X or Windows.

Gerrit Sangel

Am Donnerstag 03 April 2008 schrieb LiuCougar:
> I plan to port skim to kde4 some time (hopefully before kde 4.1), but
> can't promise anything now. any help is appreciated
>

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Gerrit Sangel-2  has written on 6 april 2008:

>Hello,
>
>I am no programmer, but if you need any help with bugfixing and so on, ask me.

I understand that you can write German, so maybe you can help with translating to German.

Ronald Stroethoff

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Gerrit Sangel さんは書きました:
> Does this mean, there is no scim support for KDE4?

Well scim works ok with KDE 4, eg with XIM or using scim-bridge's qt4
immodule.  I think Liu Cougar is talking about skim support: ie the GUI
port to KDE.

Jens

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Thanks for bringing this up, Gerrit:

> In my opinion, all the input methods under Linux feel a bit “seperated” from
> the rest of the input methods from X.org. I have to switch these QT_IM_MODULE
> variables and so on, then I have two different icons in the tray bar of kde
> to switch input methods, first for German (because I have two different
> German keybaord layouts), and then another one for East Asian (scim); some
> applications don’t even work with scim and so on. This shouldn’t be anything
> of not appreciating the work you guys put in scim, but I am wondering
> (because the input methods are (I guess you have to admit that) much more
> convenient under MacOS X or Windows) what do you think (or maybe you already
> thought about it) to cooperate with the guys from X.org to “unify” the entire
> input methods (scim and “normal” keyboard layouts) and trying to solve the
> problems that still occur and making scim the default input mode for X?

This is a very fair point, and something that I hope to see improve in
the future.  One problem is with the diversity of Linux and Free
Software there is not yet an "official" GNOME or KDE Input Method
system, which makes integration with the desktops harder.

At least under GNOME (and XFCE) due to work by Akira Tagoh, it is now
possible to turn one and off Input Method usage dynamically during a
desktop session using im-chooser and his imsettings framework, which is
in the coming Fedora 9 for example.

The next step should be to work on better integration of keyboard and
Input Methods configuration and control on the deskops.

Jens
Jens

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