qgis & mrsid used to work

[M S]

I had a working QGIS and Mr SID, but just did an update to Karmic
which installed new qgis and grass (same versions?) and subsequently
broke the mr sid relationship (I cant add MR SIDs to QGIS).

I am using this site to install
http://n2.nabble.com/Directions-to-get-mrsid-support-in-GQIS-and-other-packages-using-gdal-on-Ubuntu-td3169342.html

Everything seems fine with the creation of gdal_MrSID.so.

gdal_GRASS.so, gdal_MrSID.so and ogr_GRASS.so are all in the
/usr/lib/gdal16plugins directory.  nothing is in the
/usr/lib/gdal15plugins directory.

I notice that libgdal1.5 gets installed from the ubuntu repo, while
additionally libgdal1.6 gets installed from the ubuntugis directory.
(?)

gdalinfo --formats lists MR SID as a recognized format, but QGIS
doesnt have it in the list nor recognizes it as  GDAL raster.

Thanks,
Mark
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[Alex Mandel-2]

M S wrote:

> I had a working QGIS and Mr SID, but just did an update to Karmic
> which installed new qgis and grass (same versions?) and subsequently
> broke the mr sid relationship (I cant add MR SIDs to QGIS).
>
> I am using this site to install
> http://n2.nabble.com/Directions-to-get-mrsid-support-in-GQIS-and-other-packages-using-gdal-on-Ubuntu-td3169342.html
>
> Everything seems fine with the creation of gdal_MrSID.so.
>
> gdal_GRASS.so, gdal_MrSID.so and ogr_GRASS.so are all in the
> /usr/lib/gdal16plugins directory.  nothing is in the
> /usr/lib/gdal15plugins directory.
>
> I notice that libgdal1.5 gets installed from the ubuntu repo, while
> additionally libgdal1.6 gets installed from the ubuntugis directory.
> (?)
>
> gdalinfo --formats lists MR SID as a recognized format, but QGIS
> doesnt have it in the list nor recognizes it as  GDAL raster.
>
> Thanks,
> Mark

Which gdalinfo are you using. Good chance you installed it for libgdal
1.5 instead of 1.6. Try removing all the 1.5 stuff and redo the MRSID
install.

Alex

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[M S]

gdalinfo --version returns GDAL 1.6.2

if I do 'sudo apt-get remove gdal1-1.5.0' it wants to remove all this:
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
  proj libgdal1-1.6.0-grass
Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  libgdal1-1.5.0 libqgis1.3.0 python-qgis python-qgis-common qgis
qgis-common qgis-plugin-grass qgis-plugin-grass-common


And if I 'apt-get install qgis', it wants to put gdal 1.5.0 back.

Is there something with the ubuntugis/unstable repo perhaps?

Thanks,
Mark

On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 1:35 PM, Alex Mandel <[hidden email]> wrote:

> M S wrote:
>> I had a working QGIS and Mr SID, but just did an update to Karmic
>> which installed new qgis and grass (same versions?) and subsequently
>> broke the mr sid relationship (I cant add MR SIDs to QGIS).
>>
>> I am using this site to install
>> http://n2.nabble.com/Directions-to-get-mrsid-support-in-GQIS-and-other-packages-using-gdal-on-Ubuntu-td3169342.html
>>
>> Everything seems fine with the creation of gdal_MrSID.so.
>>
>> gdal_GRASS.so, gdal_MrSID.so and ogr_GRASS.so are all in the
>> /usr/lib/gdal16plugins directory.  nothing is in the
>> /usr/lib/gdal15plugins directory.
>>
>> I notice that libgdal1.5 gets installed from the ubuntu repo, while
>> additionally libgdal1.6 gets installed from the ubuntugis directory.
>> (?)
>>
>> gdalinfo --formats lists MR SID as a recognized format, but QGIS
>> doesnt have it in the list nor recognizes it as  GDAL raster.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Mark
>
> Which gdalinfo are you using. Good chance you installed it for libgdal
> 1.5 instead of 1.6. Try removing all the 1.5 stuff and redo the MRSID
> install.
>
> Alex
>
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[Alex Mandel-2]

That to me sounds like you've got the QGIS repos and the UbuntuGIS
repos. UbuntuGIS should be pulling 1.6.x I will double check with them,
since I do recall in some recent past versions there being an error in
the dependency list that still had 1.5 for QGIS.

Alex

M S wrote:

> gdalinfo --version returns GDAL 1.6.2
>
> if I do 'sudo apt-get remove gdal1-1.5.0' it wants to remove all this:
> The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
>   proj libgdal1-1.6.0-grass
> Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.
> The following packages will be REMOVED:
>   libgdal1-1.5.0 libqgis1.3.0 python-qgis python-qgis-common qgis
> qgis-common qgis-plugin-grass qgis-plugin-grass-common
>
>
> And if I 'apt-get install qgis', it wants to put gdal 1.5.0 back.
>
> Is there something with the ubuntugis/unstable repo perhaps?
>
> Thanks,
> Mark
>
> On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 1:35 PM, Alex Mandel <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> M S wrote:
>>> I had a working QGIS and Mr SID, but just did an update to Karmic
>>> which installed new qgis and grass (same versions?) and subsequently
>>> broke the mr sid relationship (I cant add MR SIDs to QGIS).
>>>
>>> I am using this site to install
>>> http://n2.nabble.com/Directions-to-get-mrsid-support-in-GQIS-and-other-packages-using-gdal-on-Ubuntu-td3169342.html
>>>
>>> Everything seems fine with the creation of gdal_MrSID.so.
>>>
>>> gdal_GRASS.so, gdal_MrSID.so and ogr_GRASS.so are all in the
>>> /usr/lib/gdal16plugins directory.  nothing is in the
>>> /usr/lib/gdal15plugins directory.
>>>
>>> I notice that libgdal1.5 gets installed from the ubuntu repo, while
>>> additionally libgdal1.6 gets installed from the ubuntugis directory.
>>> (?)
>>>
>>> gdalinfo --formats lists MR SID as a recognized format, but QGIS
>>> doesnt have it in the list nor recognizes it as  GDAL raster.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Mark
>> Which gdalinfo are you using. Good chance you installed it for libgdal
>> 1.5 instead of 1.6. Try removing all the 1.5 stuff and redo the MRSID
>> install.
>>
>> Alex
>>
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[M S]

Great, thanks.  This may only be on the 64bit platform, as I did the
same update this morning on a Karmic 32bit system, and the MRSID still
works.

Originally I installed karmic 64bit, then updated all.  Then I added
the qgis/stable and ubuntugis/unstable, and wound up with a qgis
installation that wouldnt work with mr sid. (the gdal1.5.0 issue
perhaps?)

When I took out the qgis/stable, and only used ubuntugis/unstable, I
did get a qgis that could use SIDs.  It looks like last night there
was an update to the ubuntugis?  and when i updated/upgraded, then the
mrsid didnt work on Karmic 64bit.

Interestingly, I upgraded on Karmic qgis and grass (same versions
though?) this morning also on karmic 32bit, and mrsid still worked.

Much thanks,
Mark



On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 2:03 PM, Alex Mandel <[hidden email]> wrote:

> That to me sounds like you've got the QGIS repos and the UbuntuGIS
> repos. UbuntuGIS should be pulling 1.6.x I will double check with them,
> since I do recall in some recent past versions there being an error in
> the dependency list that still had 1.5 for QGIS.
>
> Alex
>
> M S wrote:
>> gdalinfo --version returns GDAL 1.6.2
>>
>> if I do 'sudo apt-get remove gdal1-1.5.0' it wants to remove all this:
>> The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
>>   proj libgdal1-1.6.0-grass
>> Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.
>> The following packages will be REMOVED:
>>   libgdal1-1.5.0 libqgis1.3.0 python-qgis python-qgis-common qgis
>> qgis-common qgis-plugin-grass qgis-plugin-grass-common
>>
>>
>> And if I 'apt-get install qgis', it wants to put gdal 1.5.0 back.
>>
>> Is there something with the ubuntugis/unstable repo perhaps?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Mark
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 1:35 PM, Alex Mandel <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>> M S wrote:
>>>> I had a working QGIS and Mr SID, but just did an update to Karmic
>>>> which installed new qgis and grass (same versions?) and subsequently
>>>> broke the mr sid relationship (I cant add MR SIDs to QGIS).
>>>>
>>>> I am using this site to install
>>>> http://n2.nabble.com/Directions-to-get-mrsid-support-in-GQIS-and-other-packages-using-gdal-on-Ubuntu-td3169342.html
>>>>
>>>> Everything seems fine with the creation of gdal_MrSID.so.
>>>>
>>>> gdal_GRASS.so, gdal_MrSID.so and ogr_GRASS.so are all in the
>>>> /usr/lib/gdal16plugins directory.  nothing is in the
>>>> /usr/lib/gdal15plugins directory.
>>>>
>>>> I notice that libgdal1.5 gets installed from the ubuntu repo, while
>>>> additionally libgdal1.6 gets installed from the ubuntugis directory.
>>>> (?)
>>>>
>>>> gdalinfo --formats lists MR SID as a recognized format, but QGIS
>>>> doesnt have it in the list nor recognizes it as  GDAL raster.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Mark
>>> Which gdalinfo are you using. Good chance you installed it for libgdal
>>> 1.5 instead of 1.6. Try removing all the 1.5 stuff and redo the MRSID
>>> install.
>>>
>>> Alex
>>>
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[Alex Mandel-2]

A good, that additional information should help us figure out what's
going on.

Thanks,
Alex

M S wrote:

> Great, thanks.  This may only be on the 64bit platform, as I did the
> same update this morning on a Karmic 32bit system, and the MRSID still
> works.
>
> Originally I installed karmic 64bit, then updated all.  Then I added
> the qgis/stable and ubuntugis/unstable, and wound up with a qgis
> installation that wouldnt work with mr sid. (the gdal1.5.0 issue
> perhaps?)
>
> When I took out the qgis/stable, and only used ubuntugis/unstable, I
> did get a qgis that could use SIDs.  It looks like last night there
> was an update to the ubuntugis?  and when i updated/upgraded, then the
> mrsid didnt work on Karmic 64bit.
>
> Interestingly, I upgraded on Karmic qgis and grass (same versions
> though?) this morning also on karmic 32bit, and mrsid still worked.
>
> Much thanks,
> Mark
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 2:03 PM, Alex Mandel <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> That to me sounds like you've got the QGIS repos and the UbuntuGIS
>> repos. UbuntuGIS should be pulling 1.6.x I will double check with them,
>> since I do recall in some recent past versions there being an error in
>> the dependency list that still had 1.5 for QGIS.
>>
>> Alex
>>
>> M S wrote:
>>> gdalinfo --version returns GDAL 1.6.2
>>>
>>> if I do 'sudo apt-get remove gdal1-1.5.0' it wants to remove all this:
>>> The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
>>>   proj libgdal1-1.6.0-grass
>>> Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.
>>> The following packages will be REMOVED:
>>>   libgdal1-1.5.0 libqgis1.3.0 python-qgis python-qgis-common qgis
>>> qgis-common qgis-plugin-grass qgis-plugin-grass-common
>>>
>>>
>>> And if I 'apt-get install qgis', it wants to put gdal 1.5.0 back.
>>>
>>> Is there something with the ubuntugis/unstable repo perhaps?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Mark
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 1:35 PM, Alex Mandel <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>> M S wrote:
>>>>> I had a working QGIS and Mr SID, but just did an update to Karmic
>>>>> which installed new qgis and grass (same versions?) and subsequently
>>>>> broke the mr sid relationship (I cant add MR SIDs to QGIS).
>>>>>
>>>>> I am using this site to install
>>>>> http://n2.nabble.com/Directions-to-get-mrsid-support-in-GQIS-and-other-packages-using-gdal-on-Ubuntu-td3169342.html
>>>>>
>>>>> Everything seems fine with the creation of gdal_MrSID.so.
>>>>>
>>>>> gdal_GRASS.so, gdal_MrSID.so and ogr_GRASS.so are all in the
>>>>> /usr/lib/gdal16plugins directory.  nothing is in the
>>>>> /usr/lib/gdal15plugins directory.
>>>>>
>>>>> I notice that libgdal1.5 gets installed from the ubuntu repo, while
>>>>> additionally libgdal1.6 gets installed from the ubuntugis directory.
>>>>> (?)
>>>>>
>>>>> gdalinfo --formats lists MR SID as a recognized format, but QGIS
>>>>> doesnt have it in the list nor recognizes it as  GDAL raster.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Mark
>>>> Which gdalinfo are you using. Good chance you installed it for libgdal
>>>> 1.5 instead of 1.6. Try removing all the 1.5 stuff and redo the MRSID
>>>> install.
>>>>
>>>> Alex
>>>>
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[Alex Mandel-2]

Yes, it forces Ubuntu to follow those rules. Though from a technical
standpoint QGIS works fine with 1.6 and 1.6 is actually the preferred
due to some bugs in 1.5. So this whole issue comes down to someone
forgetting to change the rules in the package.

Alex

M S wrote:

> Does the dependency between gdal 1.5.0 and qgis suggest that qgis
> ubuntugis/unstable binary was built against gdal 1.5.0?
>
> (meaning I cant install qgis without gdal 1.5.0 getting installed, and
> cant remove gdal 1.5.0 without removing qgis).
>
> Just trying to broaden my knowledge of the software relationships...
>
> Thanks,
> Mark
>
> On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 2:30 PM, Alex Mandel <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> A good, that additional information should help us figure out what's
>> going on.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Alex
>>
>> M S wrote:
>>> Great, thanks.  This may only be on the 64bit platform, as I did the
>>> same update this morning on a Karmic 32bit system, and the MRSID still
>>> works.
>>>
>>> Originally I installed karmic 64bit, then updated all.  Then I added
>>> the qgis/stable and ubuntugis/unstable, and wound up with a qgis
>>> installation that wouldnt work with mr sid. (the gdal1.5.0 issue
>>> perhaps?)
>>>
>>> When I took out the qgis/stable, and only used ubuntugis/unstable, I
>>> did get a qgis that could use SIDs.  It looks like last night there
>>> was an update to the ubuntugis?  and when i updated/upgraded, then the
>>> mrsid didnt work on Karmic 64bit.
>>>
>>> Interestingly, I upgraded on Karmic qgis and grass (same versions
>>> though?) this morning also on karmic 32bit, and mrsid still worked.
>>>
>>> Much thanks,
>>> Mark
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 2:03 PM, Alex Mandel <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>> That to me sounds like you've got the QGIS repos and the UbuntuGIS
>>>> repos. UbuntuGIS should be pulling 1.6.x I will double check with them,
>>>> since I do recall in some recent past versions there being an error in
>>>> the dependency list that still had 1.5 for QGIS.
>>>>
>>>> Alex
>>>>
>>>> M S wrote:
>>>>> gdalinfo --version returns GDAL 1.6.2
>>>>>
>>>>> if I do 'sudo apt-get remove gdal1-1.5.0' it wants to remove all this:
>>>>> The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
>>>>>   proj libgdal1-1.6.0-grass
>>>>> Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.
>>>>> The following packages will be REMOVED:
>>>>>   libgdal1-1.5.0 libqgis1.3.0 python-qgis python-qgis-common qgis
>>>>> qgis-common qgis-plugin-grass qgis-plugin-grass-common
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> And if I 'apt-get install qgis', it wants to put gdal 1.5.0 back.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is there something with the ubuntugis/unstable repo perhaps?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Mark
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 1:35 PM, Alex Mandel <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>>> M S wrote:
>>>>>>> I had a working QGIS and Mr SID, but just did an update to Karmic
>>>>>>> which installed new qgis and grass (same versions?) and subsequently
>>>>>>> broke the mr sid relationship (I cant add MR SIDs to QGIS).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am using this site to install
>>>>>>> http://n2.nabble.com/Directions-to-get-mrsid-support-in-GQIS-and-other-packages-using-gdal-on-Ubuntu-td3169342.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Everything seems fine with the creation of gdal_MrSID.so.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> gdal_GRASS.so, gdal_MrSID.so and ogr_GRASS.so are all in the
>>>>>>> /usr/lib/gdal16plugins directory.  nothing is in the
>>>>>>> /usr/lib/gdal15plugins directory.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I notice that libgdal1.5 gets installed from the ubuntu repo, while
>>>>>>> additionally libgdal1.6 gets installed from the ubuntugis directory.
>>>>>>> (?)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> gdalinfo --formats lists MR SID as a recognized format, but QGIS
>>>>>>> doesnt have it in the list nor recognizes it as  GDAL raster.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>> Which gdalinfo are you using. Good chance you installed it for libgdal
>>>>>> 1.5 instead of 1.6. Try removing all the 1.5 stuff and redo the MRSID
>>>>>> install.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alex
>>>>>>
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[Jürgen E. Fischer]

Hi Mark,

On Mon, 02. Nov 2009 at 13:29:31 -0500, M S wrote:
> I had a working QGIS and Mr SID, but just did an update to Karmic
> which installed new qgis and grass (same versions?) and subsequently
> broke the mr sid relationship (I cant add MR SIDs to QGIS).

ubuntugis doesn't support karmic, but has GDAL 1.6 and qgis therein is build
with it.

The qgis repository has a karmic version, but is build against plain ubuntu and
therefore only supports the version in plain ubuntu (AFAIK 1.5).

You should not mix both.

So to my knowledge you can't currently have QGIS with GDAL 1.6 on karmic unless
you build GDAL and QGIS (packages) yourself.


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[M S]

What is odd, is as of last friday, I had both QGIS Mimas and GDAL1.6.0
installed and working with mrsid, on 64bit Karmic and 32bit Karmic.

This morning an update was applied for qgis and grass, and mrsid with
QGIS stopped working on the 64bit platform.  Interestingly, on 32bit
Karmic, my QGIS is still working with GDAL 1.6.0 and MRSID.

As a user, I dont fully understand the packaging and linking.  Does
this page indicate there are Karmic qgis, grass and gdal packages?
https://launchpad.net/~ubuntugis/+archive/ubuntugis-unstable   looks
like the qgis-karmic was updated 20 hours ago if I understand that
correctly.

Initially, I had qgis/stable PPA and ubuntugis/unstable PPA in the
sources.list, so perhaps I goofed something up.

Thanks much for the help and information.
Mark



On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 3:12 PM, Jürgen E. <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi Mark,
>
> On Mon, 02. Nov 2009 at 13:29:31 -0500, M S wrote:
>> I had a working QGIS and Mr SID, but just did an update to Karmic
>> which installed new qgis and grass (same versions?) and subsequently
>> broke the mr sid relationship (I cant add MR SIDs to QGIS).
>
> ubuntugis doesn't support karmic, but has GDAL 1.6 and qgis therein is build
> with it.
>
> The qgis repository has a karmic version, but is build against plain ubuntu and
> therefore only supports the version in plain ubuntu (AFAIK 1.5).
>
> You should not mix both.
>
> So to my knowledge you can't currently have QGIS with GDAL 1.6 on karmic unless
> you build GDAL and QGIS (packages) yourself.
>
>
> Jürgen
>
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[M S]

Is there a way to query which GDAL version QGIS 1.3.0 binary was built
against?  I have one working with MRSID (64bit) and one not (32bit).
I thought both had come from ubuntugis/unstable.

Thanks,
Mark

On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 3:23 PM, M S <[hidden email]> wrote:

> What is odd, is as of last friday, I had both QGIS Mimas and GDAL1.6.0
> installed and working with mrsid, on 64bit Karmic and 32bit Karmic.
>
> This morning an update was applied for qgis and grass, and mrsid with
> QGIS stopped working on the 64bit platform.  Interestingly, on 32bit
> Karmic, my QGIS is still working with GDAL 1.6.0 and MRSID.
>
> As a user, I dont fully understand the packaging and linking.  Does
> this page indicate there are Karmic qgis, grass and gdal packages?
> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntugis/+archive/ubuntugis-unstable   looks
> like the qgis-karmic was updated 20 hours ago if I understand that
> correctly.
>
> Initially, I had qgis/stable PPA and ubuntugis/unstable PPA in the
> sources.list, so perhaps I goofed something up.
>
> Thanks much for the help and information.
> Mark
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 3:12 PM, Jürgen E. <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Hi Mark,
>>
>> On Mon, 02. Nov 2009 at 13:29:31 -0500, M S wrote:
>>> I had a working QGIS and Mr SID, but just did an update to Karmic
>>> which installed new qgis and grass (same versions?) and subsequently
>>> broke the mr sid relationship (I cant add MR SIDs to QGIS).
>>
>> ubuntugis doesn't support karmic, but has GDAL 1.6 and qgis therein is build
>> with it.
>>
>> The qgis repository has a karmic version, but is build against plain ubuntu and
>> therefore only supports the version in plain ubuntu (AFAIK 1.5).
>>
>> You should not mix both.
>>
>> So to my knowledge you can't currently have QGIS with GDAL 1.6 on karmic unless
>> you build GDAL and QGIS (packages) yourself.
>>
>>
>> Jürgen
>>
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Hi Jürgen.  Thanks for the explanation.

Does that mean the directions in link posted below are not applicable  
for qgis/mrsid?

The link that explains the build against the sid SDK.

Mark

On Nov 2, 2009, at 3:12 PM, Jürgen E. Fischer <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi Mark,
>
> On Mon, 02. Nov 2009 at 13:29:31 -0500, M S wrote:
>> I had a working QGIS and Mr SID, but just did an update to Karmic
>> which installed new qgis and grass (same versions?) and subsequently
>> broke the mr sid relationship (I cant add MR SIDs to QGIS).
>
> ubuntugis doesn't support karmic, but has GDAL 1.6 and qgis therein  
> is build
> with it.
>
> The qgis repository has a karmic version, but is build against plain  
> ubuntu and
> therefore only supports the version in plain ubuntu (AFAIK 1.5).
>
> You should not mix both.
>
> So to my knowledge you can't currently have QGIS with GDAL 1.6 on  
> karmic unless
> you build GDAL and QGIS (packages) yourself.
>
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Jürgen E. Fischer wrote:
> Hi Mark,
>
> On Mon, 02. Nov 2009 at 13:29:31 -0500, M S wrote:
>> I had a working QGIS and Mr SID, but just did an update to Karmic
>> which installed new qgis and grass (same versions?) and subsequently
>> broke the mr sid relationship (I cant add MR SIDs to QGIS).
>
> ubuntugis doesn't support karmic, but has GDAL 1.6 and qgis therein is build
> with it.

What does this mean? ubuntugis does not support karmic but there are
binary packages of gdal and qgis for karmic in the ubuntugis repository?

Agus

> The qgis repository has a karmic version, but is build against plain ubuntu and
> therefore only supports the version in plain ubuntu (AFAIK 1.5).
>
> You should not mix both.
>
> So to my knowledge you can't currently have QGIS with GDAL 1.6 on karmic unless
> you build GDAL and QGIS (packages) yourself.
>
>
> Jürgen
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Is this "someone" aware of the problem? Will "someone" fix
this problem soon and rebuild the package? Knowing this is important
for ubuntu users to decide whether upgrading to karmic or not.

Agus

Alex Mandel wrote:

> Yes, it forces Ubuntu to follow those rules. Though from a technical
> standpoint QGIS works fine with 1.6 and 1.6 is actually the preferred
> due to some bugs in 1.5. So this whole issue comes down to someone
> forgetting to change the rules in the package.
>
> Alex
>
> M S wrote:
>> Does the dependency between gdal 1.5.0 and qgis suggest that qgis
>> ubuntugis/unstable binary was built against gdal 1.5.0?
>>
>> (meaning I cant install qgis without gdal 1.5.0 getting installed, and
>> cant remove gdal 1.5.0 without removing qgis).
>>
>> Just trying to broaden my knowledge of the software relationships...
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Mark
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 2:30 PM, Alex Mandel <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>> A good, that additional information should help us figure out what's
>>> going on.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Alex
>>>
>>> M S wrote:
>>>> Great, thanks.  This may only be on the 64bit platform, as I did the
>>>> same update this morning on a Karmic 32bit system, and the MRSID still
>>>> works.
>>>>
>>>> Originally I installed karmic 64bit, then updated all.  Then I added
>>>> the qgis/stable and ubuntugis/unstable, and wound up with a qgis
>>>> installation that wouldnt work with mr sid. (the gdal1.5.0 issue
>>>> perhaps?)
>>>>
>>>> When I took out the qgis/stable, and only used ubuntugis/unstable, I
>>>> did get a qgis that could use SIDs.  It looks like last night there
>>>> was an update to the ubuntugis?  and when i updated/upgraded, then the
>>>> mrsid didnt work on Karmic 64bit.
>>>>
>>>> Interestingly, I upgraded on Karmic qgis and grass (same versions
>>>> though?) this morning also on karmic 32bit, and mrsid still worked.
>>>>
>>>> Much thanks,
>>>> Mark
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 2:03 PM, Alex Mandel <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>> That to me sounds like you've got the QGIS repos and the UbuntuGIS
>>>>> repos. UbuntuGIS should be pulling 1.6.x I will double check with them,
>>>>> since I do recall in some recent past versions there being an error in
>>>>> the dependency list that still had 1.5 for QGIS.
>>>>>
>>>>> Alex
>>>>>
>>>>> M S wrote:
>>>>>> gdalinfo --version returns GDAL 1.6.2
>>>>>>
>>>>>> if I do 'sudo apt-get remove gdal1-1.5.0' it wants to remove all this:
>>>>>> The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
>>>>>>   proj libgdal1-1.6.0-grass
>>>>>> Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.
>>>>>> The following packages will be REMOVED:
>>>>>>   libgdal1-1.5.0 libqgis1.3.0 python-qgis python-qgis-common qgis
>>>>>> qgis-common qgis-plugin-grass qgis-plugin-grass-common
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And if I 'apt-get install qgis', it wants to put gdal 1.5.0 back.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is there something with the ubuntugis/unstable repo perhaps?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 1:35 PM, Alex Mandel <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>>>> M S wrote:
>>>>>>>> I had a working QGIS and Mr SID, but just did an update to Karmic
>>>>>>>> which installed new qgis and grass (same versions?) and subsequently
>>>>>>>> broke the mr sid relationship (I cant add MR SIDs to QGIS).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am using this site to install
>>>>>>>> http://n2.nabble.com/Directions-to-get-mrsid-support-in-GQIS-and-other-packages-using-gdal-on-Ubuntu-td3169342.html
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Everything seems fine with the creation of gdal_MrSID.so.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> gdal_GRASS.so, gdal_MrSID.so and ogr_GRASS.so are all in the
>>>>>>>> /usr/lib/gdal16plugins directory.  nothing is in the
>>>>>>>> /usr/lib/gdal15plugins directory.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I notice that libgdal1.5 gets installed from the ubuntu repo, while
>>>>>>>> additionally libgdal1.6 gets installed from the ubuntugis directory.
>>>>>>>> (?)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> gdalinfo --formats lists MR SID as a recognized format, but QGIS
>>>>>>>> doesnt have it in the list nor recognizes it as  GDAL raster.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>> Which gdalinfo are you using. Good chance you installed it for libgdal
>>>>>>> 1.5 instead of 1.6. Try removing all the 1.5 stuff and redo the MRSID
>>>>>>> install.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Alex
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Mark,
which link?
Agus

MS wrote:

> Hi Jürgen.  Thanks for the explanation.
>
> Does that mean the directions in link posted below are not applicable
> for qgis/mrsid?
>
> The link that explains the build against the sid SDK.
>
> Mark
>
> On Nov 2, 2009, at 3:12 PM, Jürgen E. Fischer <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Hi Mark,
>>
>> On Mon, 02. Nov 2009 at 13:29:31 -0500, M S wrote:
>>> I had a working QGIS and Mr SID, but just did an update to Karmic
>>> which installed new qgis and grass (same versions?) and subsequently
>>> broke the mr sid relationship (I cant add MR SIDs to QGIS).
>>
>> ubuntugis doesn't support karmic, but has GDAL 1.6 and qgis therein is
>> build
>> with it.
>>
>> The qgis repository has a karmic version, but is build against plain
>> ubuntu and
>> therefore only supports the version in plain ubuntu (AFAIK 1.5).
>>
>> You should not mix both.
>>
>> So to my knowledge you can't currently have QGIS with GDAL 1.6 on
>> karmic unless
>> you build GDAL and QGIS (packages) yourself.
>>
>>
>> Jürgen
>>
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[M S]

My apologies, I was on my mobile and falsey assumed the trail of email
had the link on the bottom I had been using to setup QGIS and MRSID
GDAL.
http://n2.nabble.com/Directions-to-get-mrsid-support-in-GQIS-and-other-packages-using-gdal-on-Ubuntu-td3169342.html

Thanks to the entire community for all contributions and help.

Mark

On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 4:05 AM, Agustin Lobo <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Mark,
> which link?
> Agus
>
> MS wrote:
>>
>> Hi Jürgen.  Thanks for the explanation.
>>
>> Does that mean the directions in link posted below are not applicable for
>> qgis/mrsid?
>>
>> The link that explains the build against the sid SDK.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> On Nov 2, 2009, at 3:12 PM, Jürgen E. Fischer <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Mark,
>>>
>>> On Mon, 02. Nov 2009 at 13:29:31 -0500, M S wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I had a working QGIS and Mr SID, but just did an update to Karmic
>>>> which installed new qgis and grass (same versions?) and subsequently
>>>> broke the mr sid relationship (I cant add MR SIDs to QGIS).
>>>
>>> ubuntugis doesn't support karmic, but has GDAL 1.6 and qgis therein is
>>> build
>>> with it.
>>>
>>> The qgis repository has a karmic version, but is build against plain
>>> ubuntu and
>>> therefore only supports the version in plain ubuntu (AFAIK 1.5).
>>>
>>> You should not mix both.
>>>
>>> So to my knowledge you can't currently have QGIS with GDAL 1.6 on karmic
>>> unless
>>> you build GDAL and QGIS (packages) yourself.
>>>
>>>
>>> Jürgen
>>>
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Hi,

obviously my info was outdated.  Looks like karmic support was added on
2009-10-27.   I've now have rebuild qgis for karmic in ubuntugis.


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Is this qgis with gdal 1.6.0?  Would it presumably work with mrsid?

Thanks for your help and contributions!

Mark

On Nov 3, 2009, at 4:05 PM, Jürgen E. Fischer <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> obviously my info was outdated.  Looks like karmic support was added  
> on
> 2009-10-27.   I've now have rebuild qgis for karmic in ubuntugis.
>
>
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Awesome.  MRSID is back in action in QGIS Mimas.  Much thanks to
everyone and their efforts. What an amazing community and suite of
software.

Mark

2009/11/3 MS <[hidden email]>:

> Is this qgis with gdal 1.6.0?  Would it presumably work with mrsid?
>
> Thanks for your help and contributions!
>
> Mark
>
> On Nov 3, 2009, at 4:05 PM, Jürgen E. Fischer <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> obviously my info was outdated.  Looks like karmic support was added on
>> 2009-10-27.   I've now have rebuild qgis for karmic in ubuntugis.
>>
>>
>> Jürgen
>>
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