ploneconf2009: e-commerce

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My original mail to product-developers wasn't delivered. I don't receive emails from the product-developers mailinglist anymore (since Oct 12). Posting this from http://plone.org/support/forums/addons, hope that helps.

Here are my notes to from the Open Spaces "E-commerce" talk (full title: Are there any good python e-commerce systems? Are there? Can we make them better together? Can we integrate with Plone? - Sasha Vincic)

Please feel free to add stuff, point out missing and misspelled names, etc.

CURRENT SOLUTIONS:
Plone:
    - GetPaid
    - EasyShop (abandoned)
    - PloneMall (abandoned)
Django:
    - Satchmo
OpenObject:
    - OpenERP
PHP frameworks:
    - Magento framework
        - allows enabling / disabling of features

CHOICES:
Loosely coupled payments FROM Plone site, or all in Plone?

STORIES:
Start with a webshop, turn it into a CMS?
Or do it the other way round?

DEVELOPERS' EXPERIENCES:
Kees Hink (GW20e):
    - Colleaugue has done a Django project using Icepay (payment through redirect)
Guy Zurcher:
    - redirect is easy, avoid having certification of your own
    - SaferPay (CH only)
        - nice styling options
    - PayPal
    - Ogone (bad)
Sasha: may also use API's instead of redirects
    - PayPal
    - direct payments with banks via Java API's (Sweden)

ISSUES WITH GETPAID: (still currently the most feasible option)
    - still not well integrated
    - many dependencies
    - note: there's the basic Zope getpaid (PyPI: getpaid.*)
        and then there's PloneGetPaid (Products.PloneGetPaid)
    - uses SVN code
    - code should be in collective
        - is an issue because you'll always be customizing