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Reporter:  timmie  |       Owner:  [hidden email]
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  * component:  Documentation => Installer

Comment:

 See also http://trac.osgeo.org/grass/ticket/570

 Please specify the Windows version

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Comment (by timmie):

 Using Windows XP.

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Comment (by timmie):

 * Windows XP
 * Python is already installed (PythonXY)

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Reporter:  timmie  |        Owner:  [hidden email]
    Type:  defect  |       Status:  closed                    
Priority:  major   |    Component:  Installer                  
 Version:          |   Resolution:  fixed                      
Keywords:  grass   |  
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Changes (by hamish):

  * keywords:  => grass
  * status:  new => closed
  * resolution:  => fixed

Comment:

 In GRASS bug # 570, timmie wrote:
 {{{
 I got it fixed on my computer. It was a problem with the win32 packages
 for python.

 After copying them over from c:\Programme\pythonxy\python\Lib\site-
 packages\win32\ c:\Programme\pythonxy\python\Lib\site-packages\win32com\
 c:\Programme\pythonxy\python\Lib\site-packages\win32comext\

     everything works.

 The GUI is really nice and fast. congratulations to thos who made it.
 }}}

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    Type:  defect  |       Status:  closed                    
Priority:  major   |    Component:  Installer                  
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Comment (by timmie):

 For testing resons I have both installed: OSGEO4W & GRASS standalone.

 After the changes described in GRASS#570 the standalon wxpython launches.

 The issue still persists with the OSGEO4W Grass.

 GRASS is somehow interfering with my Python installation.
 This should not be as people may have many python installations on their
 system:
 E.g. Think of a QGIS plugin developer who wants to test the plugins for
 python versions 2.4, 2.5, 3000

 Regards.

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    Type:  defect  |       Status:  closed                    
Priority:  major   |    Component:  Installer                  
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Comment (by timmie):

 Please update the pywin32 packages:
 startup problem with standalone winGRASS install and custom python -
 http://trac.osgeo.org/grass/ticket/570#comment:38

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    Type:  defect  |       Status:  closed                    
Priority:  major   |    Component:  Installer                  
 Version:          |   Resolution:  fixed                      
Keywords:  grass   |  
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Comment (by timmie):

 May I get a comment from the Python packager?
 Highly appreciated.


 Thanks in advance.

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    Type:  defect  |       Status:  closed                    
Priority:  major   |    Component:  Installer                  
 Version:          |   Resolution:  fixed                      
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Comment (by warmerdam):

 Timmie,

 Could you briefly describe the issue for me? I tried reading grass ticket
 570 but rather got lost.  When you speak of the "pywin32 package" do you
 mean the "python-win32" package or "python" package?  I do not know who
 packaged python-win32, or what it does.  Unfortunately the python-win32
 packager did not include information in the
 http://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo4w/wiki/PackageListing list, so it is very hard
 to figure out what the history is.

 Also, should this ticket be reopened if the problem is not yet resolved?

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    Type:  defect  |       Status:  closed                    
Priority:  major   |    Component:  Installer                  
 Version:          |   Resolution:  fixed                      
Keywords:  grass   |  
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Comment (by jef):

 Replying to [comment:8 warmerdam]:
 > Could you briefly describe the issue for me? I tried reading grass
 ticket 570 but rather got lost.  When you speak of the "pywin32 package"
 do you mean the "python-win32" package or "python" package?  I do not know
 who packaged python-win32, or what it does.  Unfortunately the python-
 win32 packager did not include information in the
 http://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo4w/wiki/PackageListing list, so it is very hard
 to figure out what the history is.

 I plead guilty.

 I installed it from [http://downloads.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/pywin32/
 pywin32-212.win32-py2.5.exe pywin32-212.win32-py2.5.exe] into the OSGeo4W
 tree (after adding the python path to the registry) and tared it up as
 [http://download.osgeo.org/osgeo4w/release/python/python-win32/python-
 win32-2.12-1.tar.bz2 python-win32-2.12.1-1.tar.bz2] and
 [http://download.osgeo.org/osgeo4w/release/python/python-win32-demos/
 python-win32-demos-2.12-1.tar.bz2 python-win32-demos-2.12-1.tar.bz2]

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Reporter:  timmie  |        Owner:  [hidden email]
    Type:  defect  |       Status:  closed                    
Priority:  major   |    Component:  Installer                  
 Version:          |   Resolution:  fixed                      
Keywords:  grass   |  
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Changes (by hamish):

 * cc: [hidden email] (added)

Comment:

 grass devs interested in compiling against python or using pythonXY for
 WinGrass may wish to have a look at this ticket.

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    Type:  defect  |       Status:  reopened                  
Priority:  major   |    Component:  Installer                  
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Changes (by timmie):

  * status:  closed => reopened
  * resolution:  fixed =>

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Comment (by timmie):

 Replying to [comment:8 warmerdam]:
 > Timmie,
 >
 > When you speak of the "pywin32 package" do you mean the "python-win32"
 package or
 Yes

 > Could you briefly describe the issue for me? I tried reading grass
 ticket 570 but rather got lost.

 Summary:
 1) issues discovered when running WinGRASS along with a already installed
 or later installed
 indepentant Python distribution. In particular PythonXY.
 2) PythonXY was updated and is mostly upto date.
 3) PythonXY developer states that his distribution is fine.
 4) the issues occured at least at 3 installations
 5) 2 workarounds were found.

 Todo:
 1) check this "python-win32" package.
 2) try to package WINGRass in a way that is does not interfere with other
 Python installations.

 > Also, should this ticket be reopened if the problem is not yet resolved?
 Did so.

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Comment (by timmie):

 Replying to [comment:10 hamish]:
 > grass devs interested in compiling against python or using pythonXY for
 WinGrass may wish to have a look at this ticket.
 A small note:
 At least in my case I am not using PythonXY to
 * compile GRASS aginst
 * use it for GRASS

 PythonXY is an all complete python distribution for windows that get's you
 started quickly with scientifc scripts. Comparable to Matlab (TM)
 We have to be very thankful to Pierre Raybaut for putting this together.
 THanks to Hamish to pringing this bug to the attention of all GRASS
 developers.

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    Type:  defect  |       Status:  reopened                  
Priority:  major   |    Component:  Installer                  
 Version:          |   Resolution:                            
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Comment (by timmie):

 Hello,
 this problem still exists on my Windows XP computer with latest Grass
 (WinGRASS-6.4.0SVN-r38959-1-Setup.exe).

 The failure is definately not caused by PythonXY but by the way Python is
 included in the windows packages.

 I tried to debug:
 1) deinstalled GRASS
 2) deinstalled PythonXY
 3) installed latest GRASS => works fine.
 4) installed offical Python 2.5 =>
 http://www.python.org/ftp/python/2.5.4/python-2.5.4.msi
 5) installed offical pywintypes =>
 http://sourceforge.net/projects/pywin32/files/pywin32/Build%20214/pywin32-
 214.win32-py2.5.exe/download

 6) tried to start GRASS => no success, same error message.

 Thus, this bug is a blocker for all who have python installed besides a
 GRASS install on windows.

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