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Jorge Sanz

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Hi

I'm Jorge from OSGeo Spanish Language Local Chapter and gvSIG project.

As probably you know, gvSIG is a nice SDI client supporting WxS
services, gazetteer and metadata. One of the aims of the project is to
support and promote SDI's and free geodata access and it's pretty
interesting to know that one of the most successful sections of the
official web page is the one related with free geodata[1].

On the other hand, at OSGeo-es last meeting in Girona we talked about
starting a group to catalog free geodata resources (specially WMS
servers) and some people started a geodata group[2][3].

The day after this meeting I attended a Geonetwork workshop with Jeroen
Ticheler as instructor (anyone knows someone better?) and we talk
briefly about having an OSGeo metadata catalog available for promoting
these free geodata resources.

My question to this committee is if an OSGeo catalog exists but no one
is promoting it, or if it doesn't, do you think having and OSGeo
metadata catalog for free geodata could be interesting? If you think so,
 I would enforce my colleagues to move efforts to work on the catalog as
a main reference for anyone asking for geodata.

Well, at gvSIG we think this is an interesting initiative but we don't
want to duplicate efforts, if OSGeo doesn't publish a catalog, gvSIG
will try it, but before starting such work, we should ask the OSGeo
fellows :-)

Best regards

[1] http://www.gvsig.gva.es/index.php?id=enlaces-interes&L=2&K=1
[2] http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Geodatos_en_OSGeo-es (in Spanish)
[3] http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Geodatos_publicados (in Spanish)

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David William Bitner escribió:
> Jorge,
>
> There have been several false starts at getting a catalog going for the
> OSGeo GeoData Committee.  The biggest hindrance has been that there has
> been nobody in the group who truly had a need for this catalog that
> could really push them to get it going and to populate it and maintain it.
>

Well having it configured and available is the first step for us. Let
see what happens.

- From gvSIG perspective, this catalog will be our first place to offer
for our CSW client, and any new geo-resource we detect could be recorded
here.

At OSGeo-ES we've been waiting for this tool because of course is better
to use well known SDI-focused tools than directly the wiki, no matter
what ed parsons say[1] :D

> I think that just about everyone agrees that it would be interesting and
> "a good thing" to have an OSGeo catalog -- the only council I would like
> to give is to make sure that there are enough volunteers who really have
> a committment to get things to happen.  The last push for setting up
> GeoNetwork was being led by Lorenzo Becchi (who I believe is part of
> OSGeo-ex) and Jeroen.  They both, I believe, have access to the
> Telascience servers and hopefully could be coerced into helping orient
> those willing to put the effort in.  We can work with the OSGeo SAC and
> the folks at Telascience on identifying an area on the servers and
> getting the correct permissions set up.

Well Lorenzo at this time is pretty busy but I'm sure he will promote it
in all events he attends :-)

>
> I look forward to hearing more of your plans!  Please let us know
> whatever we can do to help you out.
>

Having your support it's what I firstly asked for.

Well, now I suppose we need help to find the geonetwork instance (it's
funny that I can't find a "finding tool") and define a channel to ask
for account on the geonetwork instance (trac tickets at SAC?).

Cheers
[1] http://twitter.com/edparsons/status/2176645511
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hmm,
David me and Jeroen, together, never did that install.
I was expecting a CSW interface and Geonetwork at that time has not that
interface.
Jeroen told me to wait for the next version. At the time the next
version came out I was on another project and had no more time to
install and configure and check Geonetwork.

lorenzo

David William Bitner wrote:

> The GeoNetwork instance was set up by Lorenzo and Jeroen I am not sure
> what state it is in at the moment.  I believe that at some point it
> was set up but empty -- these two will need to comment on the current
> state of it.  It may or may not be "configured and available".
>
>
>
>     Well, now I suppose we need help to find the geonetwork instance (it's
>     funny that I can't find a "finding tool") and define a channel to ask
>     for account on the geonetwork instance (trac tickets at SAC?).
>
>
> I would hold off on filing anything with the SAC until we can hear
> from Lorenzo or Jeroen with a bit more detail about what condition
> things are in right now.
>
> David
>
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hmm,David
me and Jeroen, together, never did that install.
I was expecting a CSW interface and Geonetwork at that time has not that
interface.
Jeroen told me to wait for the next version. At the time the next
version came out I was on another project and had no more time to
install and configure and check Geonetwork.

lorenzo

David William Bitner wrote:

> The GeoNetwork instance was set up by Lorenzo and Jeroen I am not sure
> what state it is in at the moment.  I believe that at some point it
> was set up but empty -- these two will need to comment on the current
> state of it.  It may or may not be "configured and available".
>
>
>
>     Well, now I suppose we need help to find the geonetwork instance (it's
>     funny that I can't find a "finding tool") and define a channel to ask
>     for account on the geonetwork instance (trac tickets at SAC?).
>
>
> I would hold off on filing anything with the SAC until we can hear
> from Lorenzo or Jeroen with a bit more detail about what condition
> things are in right now.
>
> David
>
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Jeroen Ticheler escribió:
> Hi all,
> Sorry for not responding earlier. I did an installation quite a long
> time ago in collaboration with Johnny Graham. We just released our last
> Release Candidate for Geonetwork v2.4.0 . I would suggest that we use
> that catalog if we install it again, it has many CSW ISO 2.0.2
> improvements. Fact is that I will be away for some weeks now, traveling
> for work and for holidays.
> Ciao,
> Jeroen

Hi,

I second installing a fresh new 2.4.0 instance, and looking that this
committee agrees the proposal, I would know pass it to the SAC to see
where and how install the catalog. I have no idea about the internals of
the OSGeo facilities and software installation procedures.

I don't know if we need you (Jeroen) to have the catalog installed but I
don't have any problem to wait after the summer...if we don't forget
it!! :-)

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Buenas,

don't have any problem to wait after the summer...if we don't forget
it!! :-)

Simplemente agradecerte Jorge la iniciativa de impulsar el catálogo, y disculparme por la escasa (por no decir nula) dinamización del comité de geodatos. Sobre todo lamentaría que esta pasividad haya frenado a gente con iniciativas... En todo caso, 'I don't forget it'. A ver si en verano, por lo menos, aprendo a usar el IRC. :)

Salud,

Oscar.

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Oscar Fonts escribió:

> Buenas,
>
>     don't have any problem to wait after the summer...if we don't forget
>     it!! :-)
>
>
> Simplemente agradecerte Jorge la iniciativa de impulsar el catálogo, y
> disculparme por la escasa (por no decir nula) dinamización del comité de
> geodatos. Sobre todo lamentaría que esta pasividad haya frenado a gente
> con iniciativas... En todo caso, 'I don't forget it'. A ver si en
> verano, por lo menos, aprendo a usar el IRC. :)
>
> Salud,
>
> Oscar.
>

No problem Óscar,

Como comenté al arrancar el hilo (hace ya unas semanas) esto se reactivó
de una iniciativa en gvSIG, pero ya lo hablamos en Girona mucho antes.
Yo creo que puede ser interesante, tal vez tenga éxito, tal vez no, pero
no será por no intentarlo e intentar sacarle el mayor partido.

Lo de aprender a usar IRC... búscate un buen cliente (XChat por ejemplo)
y es coser y cantar.

Saludos
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