Karl Horak wrote:
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Plone is at the confluence of open source, enterprise CMS, social & community CMS, and web publishing CMS. Plone is the only one occupying those three subway lines (four counting OSS).
… We can't be experts at … We need to have a generalized toolset that's very, very customizable so that we can use that toolset very effectively to solve a huge host of problems. Plone-Zope-Python with a heavy dose of CSS is that toolset. …
+1, I couldn't have put it better myself.
The prospect of very effectively solving a *huge* range of problems, *without too many* areas of expertise, was the #1 reason for me preferring Plone to all other platforms for web development.
Yes ... personally, I do think of Plone as a platform. A foundation upon which people will be able to build *most things required by our organisation* -- and IMO those requirements are a continuing tall order. However: for positioning to developers, I probably wouldn't say 'platform': I'd use words very close to Karl's.
On the subject of intersecting lines and subway maps: at <
http://www.akasig.org/2003/12/11/zope-and-plone-learning-roadmap/> there's a learning-oriented graphic. It's old (2003) but still, I found it very appealing (
highlights).
If at WPD you find yourself with half an hour free, and crayons/coloured pencils to hand, how would you update that diagram for Plone 3? But wait! Even better ...
Alexander Limi wrote:
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Plone 4 *is* a revolution. It's not evolving what's currently there. It's getting rid of as much of the insanity as possible, and optimize for the things people want to do during day 1, week 1 and month 1 of their Plone experience. …
+1
The Plone Deco proposal, demos and discussions are extremely pleasing.
Looking to Plone 4: I'm inspired, finally, to take some time out from bug reporting/testing and actually learn something about code. (Probably Python.)
Dylan Jay-5 wrote:
My question is, where would you put Plone on that graph?
And should we accept we need to position plone more clearly?
... if at WPD you find yourself with half an hour free, and crayons/coloured pencils to hand:
* How would you update that (2003) learning roadmap for Plone 4?
* Would you have three separate maps, for day 1, week 1 and month 1? Or would you draw a single map, with destinations in time?
Regards
Graham
Postscript: moved from
mid-topic to the root of the forum, to echo <
http://n2.nabble.com/-tp2670283p2670283.html>.
