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I've installed Eiffel 6.3 on Windows XP and I have a problem running the Vision2 Demo.  I get a popup listing a number of .png files which can't be found with a message to check that ISE_EIFFEL is correctly set.  Also Tests and Documentation cannot be found.

I've checked the registry and HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\ISE\Eiffel63 ISE_EIFFEL=C:\Program Files\Eiffel Software\EiffelStudio 6.3 GPL

and EiffelStudio runs and compiles correctly.

Anyone got any suggestions to fix it?

Regards

Jim

rfo

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Hi Jim!

The problem is likely because you're running the app in a directory
other than where estudio thinks the pixmap files are.  Does the app run
from Eiffel Studio?  If not, then I hope someone from ES can help.
If it does, then it's simply a path problem and there are 3 possible
remedies.  First, you can run the app from the directory where the
pixmaps are. Second, you can copy the pixmap files to where you are
running the app.
Third, you can get so mad about this that you take matters into you own
hands, as I have.
On my website you can download programmatically created (i.e. NO ^%$#*&*
 FILES) pixmaps.  Why ES has chosen to continue with the old file
mechanism, I don't know.  Perhaps to provide a model for folks who want
to use file-based pixmaps for other things.
In any case, I hate to have to use files for stupid little apps.  If I'm
building something humongous then I'm OK with having to create a running
environment, but in most cases, I just want the executable to work by
itself.  The programmatic pixmaps let it do just that.
Check out www.amalasoft.com/downloads.htm

     R

==================================================
Roger F. Osmond
----------------------------------------
Amalasoft Corporation
273 Harwood Avenue
Littleton, MA 01460

> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: [eiffel_software] Vision2 Demo
> From: "Jim McDonald" <[hidden email]>
> Date: Fri, March 13, 2009 2:24 pm
> To: [hidden email]
> I've installed Eiffel 6.3 on Windows XP and I have a problem running the Vision2 Demo.  I get a popup listing a number of .png files which can't be found with a message to check that ISE_EIFFEL is correctly set.  Also Tests and Documentation cannot be found.
> I've checked the registry and HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\ISE\Eiffel63 ISE_EIFFEL=C:\Program Files\Eiffel Software\EiffelStudio 6.3 GPL
> and EiffelStudio runs and compiles correctly.
> Anyone got any suggestions to fix it?
> Regards
> Jim

Jim McDonald-4

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Roger,

I was trying to get the EifelVision2 Demo app to run.  It seems to be ISE's main documentation on the use of EiffelVision - so it's a pity it doesn't work out of the box.

It's supposed to work via the Eiffel documentation sub-menu on the Windows start menu.  I've tried executing it directly, and have tried shifting the files and sub-directories around, 'till I'm blue in the face but it doesn't work.  The error message states that the files aren't where they should be, but it doesn't say where they should.

Thanks for pointing me to your downloads, but I've lurked here long enough to already know about them.  I already have something in mind where I plan to use them :-)

Best regards,

Jim

--- In [hidden email], <rfo@...> wrote:

>
> Hi Jim!
>
> The problem is likely because you're running the app in a directory
> other than where estudio thinks the pixmap files are.  Does the app run
> from Eiffel Studio?  If not, then I hope someone from ES can help.
> If it does, then it's simply a path problem and there are 3 possible
> remedies.  First, you can run the app from the directory where the
> pixmaps are. Second, you can copy the pixmap files to where you are
> running the app.
> Third, you can get so mad about this that you take matters into you own
> hands, as I have.
> On my website you can download programmatically created (i.e. NO ^%$#*&*
>  FILES) pixmaps.  Why ES has chosen to continue with the old file
> mechanism, I don't know.  Perhaps to provide a model for folks who want
> to use file-based pixmaps for other things.
> In any case, I hate to have to use files for stupid little apps.  If I'm
> building something humongous then I'm OK with having to create a running
> environment, but in most cases, I just want the executable to work by
> itself.  The programmatic pixmaps let it do just that.
> Check out www.amalasoft.com/downloads.htm
>
>      R
>
> ==================================================
> Roger F. Osmond
> ----------------------------------------
> Amalasoft Corporation
> 273 Harwood Avenue
> Littleton, MA 01460
>
> > -------- Original Message --------
> > Subject: [eiffel_software] Vision2 Demo
> > From: "Jim McDonald" <dev@...>
> > Date: Fri, March 13, 2009 2:24 pm
> > To: [hidden email]
> > I've installed Eiffel 6.3 on Windows XP and I have a problem running the Vision2 Demo.  I get a popup listing a number of .png files which can't be found with a message to check that ISE_EIFFEL is correctly set.  Also Tests and Documentation cannot be found.
> > I've checked the registry and HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\ISE\Eiffel63 ISE_EIFFEL=C:\Program Files\Eiffel Software\EiffelStudio 6.3 GPL
> > and EiffelStudio runs and compiles correctly.
> > Anyone got any suggestions to fix it?
> > Regards
> > Jim
>


rfo

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Hi Jim!

Time to bring out the bigger hammers.  Run the finalized app with ltrace
or equivalent to track the failed open calls (oops, sorry I forgot about
Windows).  If you run it under Estudio, you can trace back the call to
the file name it expects in the debugger.  That's the quickest method I
know.

     R

==================================================
Roger F. Osmond
----------------------------------------
Amalasoft Corporation
273 Harwood Avenue
Littleton, MA 01460

> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: [eiffel_software] Re: Vision2 Demo
> From: "Jim McDonald" <[hidden email]>
> Date: Fri, March 13, 2009 5:24 pm
> To: [hidden email]
> Roger,
> I was trying to get the EifelVision2 Demo app to run.  It seems to be ISE's main documentation on the use of EiffelVision - so it's a pity it doesn't work out of the box.
> It's supposed to work via the Eiffel documentation sub-menu on the Windows start menu.  I've tried executing it directly, and have tried shifting the files and sub-directories around, 'till I'm blue in the face but it doesn't work.  The error message states that the files aren't where they should be, but it doesn't say where they should.
> Thanks for pointing me to your downloads, but I've lurked here long enough to already know about them.  I already have something in mind where I plan to use them :-)
> Best regards,
> Jim
> --- In [hidden email], <rfo@...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Jim!
> >
> > The problem is likely because you're running the app in a directory
> > other than where estudio thinks the pixmap files are.  Does the app run
> > from Eiffel Studio?  If not, then I hope someone from ES can help.
> > If it does, then it's simply a path problem and there are 3 possible
> > remedies.  First, you can run the app from the directory where the
> > pixmaps are. Second, you can copy the pixmap files to where you are
> > running the app.
> > Third, you can get so mad about this that you take matters into you own
> > hands, as I have.
> > On my website you can download programmatically created (i.e. NO ^%$#*&*
> >  FILES) pixmaps.  Why ES has chosen to continue with the old file
> > mechanism, I don't know.  Perhaps to provide a model for folks who want
> > to use file-based pixmaps for other things.
> > In any case, I hate to have to use files for stupid little apps.  If I'm
> > building something humongous then I'm OK with having to create a running
> > environment, but in most cases, I just want the executable to work by
> > itself.  The programmatic pixmaps let it do just that.
> > Check out www.amalasoft.com/downloads.htm
> >
> >      R
> >
> > ==================================================
> > Roger F. Osmond
> > ----------------------------------------
> > Amalasoft Corporation
> > 273 Harwood Avenue
> > Littleton, MA 01460
> >
> > > -------- Original Message --------
> > > Subject: [eiffel_software] Vision2 Demo
> > > From: "Jim McDonald" <dev@...>
> > > Date: Fri, March 13, 2009 2:24 pm
> > > To: [hidden email]
> > > I've installed Eiffel 6.3 on Windows XP and I have a problem running the Vision2 Demo.  I get a popup listing a number of .png files which can't be found with a message to check that ISE_EIFFEL is correctly set.  Also Tests and Documentation cannot be found.
> > > I've checked the registry and HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\ISE\Eiffel63 ISE_EIFFEL=C:\Program Files\Eiffel Software\EiffelStudio 6.3 GPL
> > > and EiffelStudio runs and compiles correctly.
> > > Anyone got any suggestions to fix it?
> > > Regards
> > > Jim
> >

Emmanuel Stapf

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> I've installed Eiffel 6.3 on Windows XP and I have a problem running the
> Vision2 Demo.  I get a popup listing a number of .png files which can't
> be found with a message to check that ISE_EIFFEL is correctly set.  Also
> Tests and Documentation cannot be found.

Can you send to http://support.eiffel.com a screenshot of the error you are
getting?

Regards,
Manu

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Roger,

The file is an executable, provided by ISE, in the directory C:\Program Files\Eiffel Software\EiffelStudio 6.3 GPL\vision2_demo\spec\windows\bin.  No source!  At least I can't find any.  Think I'll have to wait until someone from ISE is around.

Cheers,

Jim



--- In [hidden email], <rfo@...> wrote:

>
> Hi Jim!
>
> Time to bring out the bigger hammers.  Run the finalized app with ltrace
> or equivalent to track the failed open calls (oops, sorry I forgot about
> Windows).  If you run it under Estudio, you can trace back the call to
> the file name it expects in the debugger.  That's the quickest method I
> know.
>
>      R
>
> ==================================================
> Roger F. Osmond
> ----------------------------------------
> Amalasoft Corporation
> 273 Harwood Avenue
> Littleton, MA 01460
>
> > -------- Original Message --------
> > Subject: [eiffel_software] Re: Vision2 Demo
> > From: "Jim McDonald" <dev@...>
> > Date: Fri, March 13, 2009 5:24 pm
> > To: [hidden email]
> > Roger,
> > I was trying to get the EifelVision2 Demo app to run.  It seems to be ISE's main documentation on the use of EiffelVision - so it's a pity it doesn't work out of the box.
> > It's supposed to work via the Eiffel documentation sub-menu on the Windows start menu.  I've tried executing it directly, and have tried shifting the files and sub-directories around, 'till I'm blue in the face but it doesn't work.  The error message states that the files aren't where they should be, but it doesn't say where they should.
> > Thanks for pointing me to your downloads, but I've lurked here long enough to already know about them.  I already have something in mind where I plan to use them :-)
> > Best regards,
> > Jim
> > --- In [hidden email], <rfo@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Jim!
> > >
> > > The problem is likely because you're running the app in a directory
> > > other than where estudio thinks the pixmap files are.  Does the app run
> > > from Eiffel Studio?  If not, then I hope someone from ES can help.
> > > If it does, then it's simply a path problem and there are 3 possible
> > > remedies.  First, you can run the app from the directory where the
> > > pixmaps are. Second, you can copy the pixmap files to where you are
> > > running the app.
> > > Third, you can get so mad about this that you take matters into you own
> > > hands, as I have.
> > > On my website you can download programmatically created (i.e. NO ^%$#*&*
> > >  FILES) pixmaps.  Why ES has chosen to continue with the old file
> > > mechanism, I don't know.  Perhaps to provide a model for folks who want
> > > to use file-based pixmaps for other things.
> > > In any case, I hate to have to use files for stupid little apps.  If I'm
> > > building something humongous then I'm OK with having to create a running
> > > environment, but in most cases, I just want the executable to work by
> > > itself.  The programmatic pixmaps let it do just that.
> > > Check out www.amalasoft.com/downloads.htm
> > >
> > >      R
> > >
> > > ==================================================
> > > Roger F. Osmond
> > > ----------------------------------------
> > > Amalasoft Corporation
> > > 273 Harwood Avenue
> > > Littleton, MA 01460
> > >
> > > > -------- Original Message --------
> > > > Subject: [eiffel_software] Vision2 Demo
> > > > From: "Jim McDonald" <dev@>
> > > > Date: Fri, March 13, 2009 2:24 pm
> > > > To: [hidden email]
> > > > I've installed Eiffel 6.3 on Windows XP and I have a problem running the Vision2 Demo.  I get a popup listing a number of .png files which can't be found with a message to check that ISE_EIFFEL is correctly set.  Also Tests and Documentation cannot be found.
> > > > I've checked the registry and HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\ISE\Eiffel63 ISE_EIFFEL=C:\Program Files\Eiffel Software\EiffelStudio 6.3 GPL
> > > > and EiffelStudio runs and compiles correctly.
> > > > Anyone got any suggestions to fix it?
> > > > Regards
> > > > Jim
> > >
>


Chris Saunders-4

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I just tried running EiffelVision2 Demo on EiffelStudio 6.4 which was just installed and also got a dialog box complaining about a bunch of *.png files it could not find and have made a bug report.  Other than this warning dialog the program seemed to be working fine but I did not check it out extensively.

Regards
Chris Saunders

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: [hidden email]
  To: [hidden email]
  Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 3:34 PM
  Subject: RE: [eiffel_software] Vision2 Demo


  Hi Jim!

  The problem is likely because you're running the app in a directory
  other than where estudio thinks the pixmap files are. Does the app run
  from Eiffel Studio? If not, then I hope someone from ES can help.
  If it does, then it's simply a path problem and there are 3 possible
  remedies. First, you can run the app from the directory where the
  pixmaps are. Second, you can copy the pixmap files to where you are
  running the app.
  Third, you can get so mad about this that you take matters into you own
  hands, as I have.
  On my website you can download programmatically created (i.e. NO ^%$#*&*
  FILES) pixmaps. Why ES has chosen to continue with the old file
  mechanism, I don't know. Perhaps to provide a model for folks who want
  to use file-based pixmaps for other things.
  In any case, I hate to have to use files for stupid little apps. If I'm
  building something humongous then I'm OK with having to create a running
  environment, but in most cases, I just want the executable to work by
  itself. The programmatic pixmaps let it do just that.
  Check out www.amalasoft.com/downloads.htm

  R

  ==================================================
  Roger F. Osmond
  ----------------------------------------
  Amalasoft Corporation
  273 Harwood Avenue
  Littleton, MA 01460

  > -------- Original Message --------
  > Subject: [eiffel_software] Vision2 Demo
  > From: "Jim McDonald" <[hidden email]>
  > Date: Fri, March 13, 2009 2:24 pm
  > To: [hidden email]
  > I've installed Eiffel 6.3 on Windows XP and I have a problem running the Vision2 Demo. I get a popup listing a number of .png files which can't be found with a message to check that ISE_EIFFEL is correctly set. Also Tests and Documentation cannot be found.
  > I've checked the registry and HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\ISE\Eiffel63 ISE_EIFFEL=C:\Program Files\Eiffel Software\EiffelStudio 6.3 GPL
  > and EiffelStudio runs and compiles correctly.
  > Anyone got any suggestions to fix it?
  > Regards
  > Jim


 

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Jim McDonald-4

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Manu,

Problem report #15507 has been submitted.

Regards,

Jim

--- In [hidden email], "Emmanuel Stapf [ES]" <manus@...> wrote:

>
> > I've installed Eiffel 6.3 on Windows XP and I have a problem running the
> > Vision2 Demo.  I get a popup listing a number of .png files which can't
> > be found with a message to check that ISE_EIFFEL is correctly set.  Also
> > Tests and Documentation cannot be found.
>
> Can you send to http://support.eiffel.com a screenshot of the error you are
> getting?
>
> Regards,
> Manu
>


rfo

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Hi Jim!

I tried looking for open calls using Filemon (from
http://live.sysinternals.com/) and found some strange failed opens that
look like a corrupt path, but might be normal (I can't see how, but what
do I do know?).

By the way, the problem exists in 6.2 also.
The message claims it's looking for ISE_EIFFEL to be defined, but when I
set that, it fails completely.

When I try the one from 6.1, I get the same error, but it also writes a
warning to the console:

WARNING: the environment variable $ISE_EIFFEL points to a non-existing
directory.
WARNING: the path $ISE_EIFFEL/studio/spec/$ISE_PLATFORM/bin points to a
non-existing directory.


This might because 6.2 was installed since then, but it might be another
clue.
The problem is very likely fixable in about 30 seconds.  The fact that
it has lingered for at least 2.5 releases is simply unbelievable.

It is a shame that the stuff that's supposed to entice new adopters
instead not only turns them off to the language, but repudiates any
claims of quality and discipline.  It's quite discouraging actually.

     R

==================================================
Roger F. Osmond
----------------------------------------
Amalasoft Corporation
273 Harwood Avenue
Littleton, MA 01460

> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: [eiffel_software] Re: Vision2 Demo
> From: "Jim McDonald" <[hidden email]>
> Date: Fri, March 13, 2009 5:40 pm
> To: [hidden email]
> Roger,
> The file is an executable, provided by ISE, in the directory C:\Program Files\Eiffel Software\EiffelStudio 6.3 GPL\vision2_demo\spec\windows\bin.  No source!  At least I can't find any.  Think I'll have to wait until someone from ISE is around.
> Cheers,
> Jim
> --- In [hidden email], <rfo@...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Jim!
> >
> > Time to bring out the bigger hammers.  Run the finalized app with ltrace
> > or equivalent to track the failed open calls (oops, sorry I forgot about
> > Windows).  If you run it under Estudio, you can trace back the call to
> > the file name it expects in the debugger.  That's the quickest method I
> > know.
> >
> >      R
> >
> > ==================================================
> > Roger F. Osmond
> > ----------------------------------------
> > Amalasoft Corporation
> > 273 Harwood Avenue
> > Littleton, MA 01460
> >
> > > -------- Original Message --------
> > > Subject: [eiffel_software] Re: Vision2 Demo
> > > From: "Jim McDonald" <dev@...>
> > > Date: Fri, March 13, 2009 5:24 pm
> > > To: [hidden email]
> > > Roger,
> > > I was trying to get the EifelVision2 Demo app to run.  It seems to be ISE's main documentation on the use of EiffelVision - so it's a pity it doesn't work out of the box.
> > > It's supposed to work via the Eiffel documentation sub-menu on the Windows start menu.  I've tried executing it directly, and have tried shifting the files and sub-directories around, 'till I'm blue in the face but it doesn't work.  The error message states that the files aren't where they should be, but it doesn't say where they should.
> > > Thanks for pointing me to your downloads, but I've lurked here long enough to already know about them.  I already have something in mind where I plan to use them :-)
> > > Best regards,
> > > Jim
> > > --- In [hidden email], <rfo@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Jim!
> > > >
> > > > The problem is likely because you're running the app in a directory
> > > > other than where estudio thinks the pixmap files are.  Does the app run
> > > > from Eiffel Studio?  If not, then I hope someone from ES can help.
> > > > If it does, then it's simply a path problem and there are 3 possible
> > > > remedies.  First, you can run the app from the directory where the
> > > > pixmaps are. Second, you can copy the pixmap files to where you are
> > > > running the app.
> > > > Third, you can get so mad about this that you take matters into you own
> > > > hands, as I have.
> > > > On my website you can download programmatically created (i.e. NO ^%$#*&*
> > > >  FILES) pixmaps.  Why ES has chosen to continue with the old file
> > > > mechanism, I don't know.  Perhaps to provide a model for folks who want
> > > > to use file-based pixmaps for other things.
> > > > In any case, I hate to have to use files for stupid little apps.  If I'm
> > > > building something humongous then I'm OK with having to create a running
> > > > environment, but in most cases, I just want the executable to work by
> > > > itself.  The programmatic pixmaps let it do just that.
> > > > Check out www.amalasoft.com/downloads.htm
> > > >
> > > >      R
> > > >
> > > > ==================================================
> > > > Roger F. Osmond
> > > > ----------------------------------------
> > > > Amalasoft Corporation
> > > > 273 Harwood Avenue
> > > > Littleton, MA 01460
> > > >
> > > > > -------- Original Message --------
> > > > > Subject: [eiffel_software] Vision2 Demo
> > > > > From: "Jim McDonald" <dev@>
> > > > > Date: Fri, March 13, 2009 2:24 pm
> > > > > To: [hidden email]
> > > > > I've installed Eiffel 6.3 on Windows XP and I have a problem running the Vision2 Demo.  I get a popup listing a number of .png files which can't be found with a message to check that ISE_EIFFEL is correctly set.  Also Tests and Documentation cannot be found.
> > > > > I've checked the registry and HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\ISE\Eiffel63 ISE_EIFFEL=C:\Program Files\Eiffel Software\EiffelStudio 6.3 GPL
> > > > > and EiffelStudio runs and compiles correctly.
> > > > > Anyone got any suggestions to fix it?
> > > > > Regards
> > > > > Jim
> > > >
> >

Emmanuel Stapf

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> Problem report #15507 has been submitted.

The problem has been fixed in the 6.4 release.

Thanks,
Manu
 

> Regards,
>
> Jim
>
> --- In [hidden email], "Emmanuel Stapf [ES]" <manus@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > > I've installed Eiffel 6.3 on Windows XP and I have a problem running
> the
> > > Vision2 Demo.  I get a popup listing a number of .png files which
> can't
> > > be found with a message to check that ISE_EIFFEL is correctly set.
> Also
> > > Tests and Documentation cannot be found.
> >
> > Can you send to http://support.eiffel.com a screenshot of the error you
> are
> > getting?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Manu
> >
>
>
>
>
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