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-----Original Message-----
From: Kyle, Martin
Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 2:49 PM
To: 'OSGeo Local Chapter, British Columbia, Canada'
Subject: RE: [OSGeo BC] Vancouver goes open?

Right...they are talking iabout it right now... here:


-----Original Message-----
From: [hidden email]
[mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Mark, Jonathan
Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 2:47 PM
To: OSGeo Local Chapter, British Columbia, Canada
Subject: RE: [OSGeo BC] Vancouver goes open?

I believe discussion resumed at 2pm but I am not there

-----Original Message-----
From: [hidden email]
[mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Kyle, Martin
Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 2:47 PM
To: OSGeo Local Chapter, British Columbia, Canada
Subject: RE: [OSGeo BC] Vancouver goes open?

FYI

I had to leave for a 12:00 PM meeting...I left around 11:30 and they
still had not reached the agenda item of interest. It may have gotten
deferred but I am not sure yet.

Martin

-----Original Message-----
From: [hidden email]
[mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Tyler Mitchell
(OSGeo)
Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 10:17 AM
To: OSGeo Local Chapter, British Columbia, Canada
Subject: Re: [OSGeo BC] Vancouver goes open?

Good work Jason and sorry for missing your calls Martin - I'm only
working half-time this week with a house full of visitors :)  If you
need to chat further, I'm now available on my phone.  Holler if you want
me to call you.

Tyler

On 21-May-09, at 9:31 AM, Kyle, Martin wrote:

> Thanks
>
> Will use as needed
>
> Martin
> H. Martin Kyle, CSSLP GISP | Principal
> Sierra Systems Group, Inc.
>
> (T): 604-688-1371 (C): 778-384-5409
> 1177 West Hastings Street, Suite 2500
> Vancouver, BC V6E 2K3
>
> Management Consulting | Project Implementation | Managed Services
> website: www.SierraSystems.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: [hidden email] <osgeo-bc-
> [hidden email]>
> To: OSGeo Local Chapter, British Columbia,  Canada <osgeo-
> [hidden email]>
> Sent: Thu May 21 09:29:48 2009
> Subject: RE: [OSGeo BC] Vancouver goes open?
>
> I'm assuming that you can take care of introducing yourself :)
>
> The Open Source Geospatial Foundation is an international not-for-
> profit organization whose mission is to support and promote the  
> development of open geospatial technologies and data.
>
> The British Columbia chapter of the Open Source Geospatial  
> Foundation strongly supports the motion currently before this  
> committee.
>
> Open source software can in many cases be the correct choice for  
> least cost and highest value, but is often overlooked because it  
> does not fit well into traditional procurement processes.  
> Organisations as diverse as the United States Department of Defence  
> and the Government of South Africa have passed similar motions to  
> ensure that they have the opportunity to take advantage of the  
> benefits offered by open source software.
>
> We encourage you to consider this motion seriously for the benefits  
> and efficiencies that it will bring to your organisation,  
> residents, and businesses.
>
>
> (sorry didn't get to open data)
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kyle, Martin
> Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 9:06 AM
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [OSGeo BC] Vancouver goes open?
>
> Hi Jason
>
> As I am in transit and I cannot get a hold of Tyler to write a  
> statement...can I ask you to start a draft.
>
> E.g.
>
> We, as members of OSGeoBC, have read the motion before council  
> today concerning open data and open standards.
>
> We feel that it is in alignment with provincial, national, and  
> international momentum among the digital economies. By way of  
> example, the ... Example 1 (maybe EU, Geoconnections, etc...)...  
> have passed similar motions.
>
> ..blah blah blah...
>
> OSGeo is an organization...more blah blah.
>
> Martin
> H. Martin Kyle, CSSLP GISP | Principal
> Sierra Systems Group, Inc.
>
> (T): 604-688-1371 (C): 778-384-5409
> 1177 West Hastings Street, Suite 2500
> Vancouver, BC V6E 2K3
>
> Management Consulting | Project Implementation | Managed Services
> website: www.SierraSystems.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: [hidden email] <osgeo-bc-
> [hidden email]>
> To: OSGeo Local Chapter, British Columbia,  Canada <osgeo-
> [hidden email]>
> Sent: Thu May 21 08:49:40 2009
> Subject: RE: [OSGeo BC] Vancouver goes open?
>
> I'm happy with you reading a statement Tyler prepares, or one of  
> your own, as president of OSGeo BC.
>
> Jason
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email] [mailto:osgeo-bc-
> [hidden email]] On Behalf Of Kyle, Martin
> Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 8:07 AM
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [OSGeo BC] Vancouver goes open?
>
> Hi Tyler
>
> I just read this messgae now.
>
> I have a few hours free this morning so I will head over. If you  
> can prepare a statement then I will be happy to read it given the  
> opportunity...with the chapter's'approval (by abstention if  
> necessary).
>
> Martin
> H. Martin Kyle, CSSLP GISP | Principal
> Sierra Systems Group, Inc.
>
> (T): 604-688-1371 (C): 778-384-5409
> 1177 West Hastings Street, Suite 2500
> Vancouver, BC V6E 2K3
>
> Management Consulting | Project Implementation | Managed Services
> website: www.SierraSystems.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: [hidden email] <osgeo-bc-
> [hidden email]>
> To: OSGeo Local Chapter, British Columbia, Canada <osgeo-
> [hidden email]>
> Sent: Wed May 20 20:42:07 2009
> Subject: Re: [OSGeo BC] Vancouver goes open?
>
> Unfortunately, my week has me too busy to really follow up well on
> this topic.  But I see in this article, they welcome comments and
> also invite people to come and speak/support the motion TOMORROW.
>
> http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-columbia/story/2009/05/19/tech-open-
> city-vancouver-standards-source-data-reimer.html
>
> Also a brief note here in their agenda:
> http://vancouver.ca/ctyclerk/cclerk/20090521/csbu20090521ag.htm
>
> I won't be making it, (if only it was any other week and I had more
> than a few days notice ;-) ) but maybe some of you locals would be
> interested/able.  If you want to work with my on a statement we can
> do that too.  I'm going to try to put something together, but I'm
> afraid it's too late unless you can show up in person.  I'm sure our
> chapter would gladly support anyone who volunteers to speak on our
> collective behalf at 9:30 in the morning ;-)
>
> Something you might be interested in Gerry?  Martin?  Others?
>
> Tyler
>
>
> On 15-May-09, at 11:40 AM, Gerry James wrote:
>
>> Sorry I sent that reply just to Tyler...my bad.
>>
>> I would strongly recommend contacting Jonathan Marks.  He is the
>> GIS manager
>> with the COV (at least he used to be).  I have spoken to him a few
>> times but
>> wouldn't necessarily call him a contact.  I do not have any other
>> contacts
>> but would be very interested to collaborate with you on a meeting.
>>
>> Let me know how I can help with this initiative.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Gerry
>> _________________________________________
>> Gerry James, B.Sc., GISP
>> President/Lead Consultant
>> *****************************************
>> Carteryx Geomatics Consultants Inc.
>> Spatial Intelligence for a Changing World
>> www.carteryx.com
>> _________________________________________
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [hidden email]
>> [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Tyler Mitchell
>> (OSGeo)
>> Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 11:24 AM
>> To: OSGeo-BC List
>> Subject: [OSGeo BC] Vancouver goes open?
>>
>> Thanks to Will for sending me this article:
>> http://eaves.ca/2009/05/14/vancouver-enters-the-age-of-the-open-city/
>>
>> I'd like to come up with a plan to discuss this move with city
>> administrators in Vancouver.  So asking for your input on a couple
>> fronts:
>>
>> * Are you familiar with the current geospatial projects going on in
>> the city?  I assume it's a huge list of complex wild stuff, but
>> looking for specific ideas where we could connect.
>> * Do you have a good contact for following up with city management-
>> level staff there?  City Manager is responsible on paper, but who
>> else might you know from the geospatial angle that I could meet with?
>> * Available/interested to join with me if I can get a meeting?
>>
>> Best wishes, brainstorming welcome :)
>>
>> Tyler
>>
>> Tyler Mitchell
>> Executive Director
>> Open Source Geospatial Foundation
>> [hidden email]
>> P: +1-250-277-1621
>> M: +1-250-303-1831
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> OSGeo-BC mailing list
>> [hidden email]
>> http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/osgeo-bc
>>
>>
> _______________________________________________
> OSGeo-BC mailing list
> [hidden email]
> http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/osgeo-bc
>
>
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Kaitlin Duck Sherwood

Re: Vancouver goes open?

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I stayed until the bitter end.  Wow, what a marathon!  (It wasn't the OS stuff that took the time, it was discussion re Hastings Park/PNE.)

The resolution passed, yay.  :-)

On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 2:49 PM, Kyle, Martin <[hidden email]> wrote:
http://cityofvan-as1.insinc.com/ibc/mp/md/open/u/317/1204/wv150en


-----Original Message-----
From: Kyle, Martin
Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 2:49 PM
To: 'OSGeo Local Chapter, British Columbia, Canada'
Subject: RE: [OSGeo BC] Vancouver goes open?

Right...they are talking iabout it right now... here:


-----Original Message-----
From: [hidden email]
[mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Mark, Jonathan
Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 2:47 PM
To: OSGeo Local Chapter, British Columbia, Canada
Subject: RE: [OSGeo BC] Vancouver goes open?

I believe discussion resumed at 2pm but I am not there

-----Original Message-----
From: [hidden email]
[mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Kyle, Martin
Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 2:47 PM
To: OSGeo Local Chapter, British Columbia, Canada
Subject: RE: [OSGeo BC] Vancouver goes open?

FYI

I had to leave for a 12:00 PM meeting...I left around 11:30 and they
still had not reached the agenda item of interest. It may have gotten
deferred but I am not sure yet.

Martin

-----Original Message-----
From: [hidden email]
[mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Tyler Mitchell
(OSGeo)
Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 10:17 AM
To: OSGeo Local Chapter, British Columbia, Canada
Subject: Re: [OSGeo BC] Vancouver goes open?

Good work Jason and sorry for missing your calls Martin - I'm only
working half-time this week with a house full of visitors :)  If you
need to chat further, I'm now available on my phone.  Holler if you want
me to call you.

Tyler

On 21-May-09, at 9:31 AM, Kyle, Martin wrote:

> Thanks
>
> Will use as needed
>
> Martin
> H. Martin Kyle, CSSLP GISP | Principal
> Sierra Systems Group, Inc.
>
> (T): 604-688-1371 (C): 778-384-5409
> 1177 West Hastings Street, Suite 2500
> Vancouver, BC V6E 2K3
>
> Management Consulting | Project Implementation | Managed Services
> website: www.SierraSystems.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: [hidden email] <osgeo-bc-
> [hidden email]>
> To: OSGeo Local Chapter, British Columbia,  Canada <osgeo-
> [hidden email]>
> Sent: Thu May 21 09:29:48 2009
> Subject: RE: [OSGeo BC] Vancouver goes open?
>
> I'm assuming that you can take care of introducing yourself :)
>
> The Open Source Geospatial Foundation is an international not-for-
> profit organization whose mission is to support and promote the
> development of open geospatial technologies and data.
>
> The British Columbia chapter of the Open Source Geospatial
> Foundation strongly supports the motion currently before this
> committee.
>
> Open source software can in many cases be the correct choice for
> least cost and highest value, but is often overlooked because it
> does not fit well into traditional procurement processes.
> Organisations as diverse as the United States Department of Defence
> and the Government of South Africa have passed similar motions to
> ensure that they have the opportunity to take advantage of the
> benefits offered by open source software.
>
> We encourage you to consider this motion seriously for the benefits
> and efficiencies that it will bring to your organisation,
> residents, and businesses.
>
>
> (sorry didn't get to open data)
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kyle, Martin
> Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 9:06 AM
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [OSGeo BC] Vancouver goes open?
>
> Hi Jason
>
> As I am in transit and I cannot get a hold of Tyler to write a
> statement...can I ask you to start a draft.
>
> E.g.
>
> We, as members of OSGeoBC, have read the motion before council
> today concerning open data and open standards.
>
> We feel that it is in alignment with provincial, national, and
> international momentum among the digital economies. By way of
> example, the ... Example 1 (maybe EU, Geoconnections, etc...)...
> have passed similar motions.
>
> ..blah blah blah...
>
> OSGeo is an organization...more blah blah.
>
> Martin
> H. Martin Kyle, CSSLP GISP | Principal
> Sierra Systems Group, Inc.
>
> (T): 604-688-1371 (C): 778-384-5409
> 1177 West Hastings Street, Suite 2500
> Vancouver, BC V6E 2K3
>
> Management Consulting | Project Implementation | Managed Services
> website: www.SierraSystems.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: [hidden email] <osgeo-bc-
> [hidden email]>
> To: OSGeo Local Chapter, British Columbia,  Canada <osgeo-
> [hidden email]>
> Sent: Thu May 21 08:49:40 2009
> Subject: RE: [OSGeo BC] Vancouver goes open?
>
> I'm happy with you reading a statement Tyler prepares, or one of
> your own, as president of OSGeo BC.
>
> Jason
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]
> [hidden email]] On Behalf Of Kyle, Martin
> Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 8:07 AM
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [OSGeo BC] Vancouver goes open?
>
> Hi Tyler
>
> I just read this messgae now.
>
> I have a few hours free this morning so I will head over. If you
> can prepare a statement then I will be happy to read it given the
> opportunity...with the chapter's'approval (by abstention if
> necessary).
>
> Martin
> H. Martin Kyle, CSSLP GISP | Principal
> Sierra Systems Group, Inc.
>
> (T): 604-688-1371 (C): 778-384-5409
> 1177 West Hastings Street, Suite 2500
> Vancouver, BC V6E 2K3
>
> Management Consulting | Project Implementation | Managed Services
> website: www.SierraSystems.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: [hidden email] <osgeo-bc-
> [hidden email]>
> To: OSGeo Local Chapter, British Columbia, Canada <osgeo-
> [hidden email]>
> Sent: Wed May 20 20:42:07 2009
> Subject: Re: [OSGeo BC] Vancouver goes open?
>
> Unfortunately, my week has me too busy to really follow up well on
> this topic.  But I see in this article, they welcome comments and
> also invite people to come and speak/support the motion TOMORROW.
>
> http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-columbia/story/2009/05/19/tech-open-
> city-vancouver-standards-source-data-reimer.html
>
> Also a brief note here in their agenda:
> http://vancouver.ca/ctyclerk/cclerk/20090521/csbu20090521ag.htm
>
> I won't be making it, (if only it was any other week and I had more
> than a few days notice ;-) ) but maybe some of you locals would be
> interested/able.  If you want to work with my on a statement we can
> do that too.  I'm going to try to put something together, but I'm
> afraid it's too late unless you can show up in person.  I'm sure our
> chapter would gladly support anyone who volunteers to speak on our
> collective behalf at 9:30 in the morning ;-)
>
> Something you might be interested in Gerry?  Martin?  Others?
>
> Tyler
>
>
> On 15-May-09, at 11:40 AM, Gerry James wrote:
>
>> Sorry I sent that reply just to Tyler...my bad.
>>
>> I would strongly recommend contacting Jonathan Marks.  He is the
>> GIS manager
>> with the COV (at least he used to be).  I have spoken to him a few
>> times but
>> wouldn't necessarily call him a contact.  I do not have any other
>> contacts
>> but would be very interested to collaborate with you on a meeting.
>>
>> Let me know how I can help with this initiative.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Gerry
>> _________________________________________
>> Gerry James, B.Sc., GISP
>> President/Lead Consultant
>> *****************************************
>> Carteryx Geomatics Consultants Inc.
>> Spatial Intelligence for a Changing World
>> www.carteryx.com
>> _________________________________________
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [hidden email]
>> [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Tyler Mitchell
>> (OSGeo)
>> Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 11:24 AM
>> To: OSGeo-BC List
>> Subject: [OSGeo BC] Vancouver goes open?
>>
>> Thanks to Will for sending me this article:
>> http://eaves.ca/2009/05/14/vancouver-enters-the-age-of-the-open-city/
>>
>> I'd like to come up with a plan to discuss this move with city
>> administrators in Vancouver.  So asking for your input on a couple
>> fronts:
>>
>> * Are you familiar with the current geospatial projects going on in
>> the city?  I assume it's a huge list of complex wild stuff, but
>> looking for specific ideas where we could connect.
>> * Do you have a good contact for following up with city management-
>> level staff there?  City Manager is responsible on paper, but who
>> else might you know from the geospatial angle that I could meet with?
>> * Available/interested to join with me if I can get a meeting?
>>
>> Best wishes, brainstorming welcome :)
>>
>> Tyler
>>
>> Tyler Mitchell
>> Executive Director
>> Open Source Geospatial Foundation
>> [hidden email]
>> P: +1-250-277-1621
>> M: +1-250-303-1831
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> OSGeo-BC mailing list
>> [hidden email]
>> http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/osgeo-bc
>>
>>
> _______________________________________________
> OSGeo-BC mailing list
> [hidden email]
> http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/osgeo-bc
>
>
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>
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>
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Thanks for the update Kaitlin!  Any specific followups that came to  
mind?

On 21-May-09, at 4:06 PM, Kaitlin Duck Sherwood wrote:

> I stayed until the bitter end.  Wow, what a marathon!  (It wasn't  
> the OS stuff that took the time, it was discussion re Hastings Park/
> PNE.)
>
> The resolution passed, yay.  :-)
>
> On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 2:49 PM, Kyle, Martin  
> <[hidden email]> wrote:
> http://cityofvan-as1.insinc.com/ibc/mp/md/open/u/317/1204/wv150en
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kyle, Martin
> Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 2:49 PM
> To: 'OSGeo Local Chapter, British Columbia, Canada'
> Subject: RE: [OSGeo BC] Vancouver goes open?
>
> Right...they are talking iabout it right now... here:
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email]
> [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Mark, Jonathan
> Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 2:47 PM
> To: OSGeo Local Chapter, British Columbia, Canada
> Subject: RE: [OSGeo BC] Vancouver goes open?
>
> I believe discussion resumed at 2pm but I am not there
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email]
> [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Kyle, Martin
> Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 2:47 PM
> To: OSGeo Local Chapter, British Columbia, Canada
> Subject: RE: [OSGeo BC] Vancouver goes open?
>
> FYI
>
> I had to leave for a 12:00 PM meeting...I left around 11:30 and they
> still had not reached the agenda item of interest. It may have gotten
> deferred but I am not sure yet.
>
> Martin
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email]
> [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Tyler Mitchell
> (OSGeo)
> Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 10:17 AM
> To: OSGeo Local Chapter, British Columbia, Canada
> Subject: Re: [OSGeo BC] Vancouver goes open?
>
> Good work Jason and sorry for missing your calls Martin - I'm only
> working half-time this week with a house full of visitors :)  If you
> need to chat further, I'm now available on my phone.  Holler if you  
> want
> me to call you.
>
> Tyler
>
> On 21-May-09, at 9:31 AM, Kyle, Martin wrote:
>
> > Thanks
> >
> > Will use as needed
> >
> > Martin
> > H. Martin Kyle, CSSLP GISP | Principal
> > Sierra Systems Group, Inc.
> >
> > (T): 604-688-1371 (C): 778-384-5409
> > 1177 West Hastings Street, Suite 2500
> > Vancouver, BC V6E 2K3
> >
> > Management Consulting | Project Implementation | Managed Services
> > website: www.SierraSystems.com
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: [hidden email] <osgeo-bc-
> > [hidden email]>
> > To: OSGeo Local Chapter, British Columbia,  Canada <osgeo-
> > [hidden email]>
> > Sent: Thu May 21 09:29:48 2009
> > Subject: RE: [OSGeo BC] Vancouver goes open?
> >
> > I'm assuming that you can take care of introducing yourself :)
> >
> > The Open Source Geospatial Foundation is an international not-for-
> > profit organization whose mission is to support and promote the
> > development of open geospatial technologies and data.
> >
> > The British Columbia chapter of the Open Source Geospatial
> > Foundation strongly supports the motion currently before this
> > committee.
> >
> > Open source software can in many cases be the correct choice for
> > least cost and highest value, but is often overlooked because it
> > does not fit well into traditional procurement processes.
> > Organisations as diverse as the United States Department of Defence
> > and the Government of South Africa have passed similar motions to
> > ensure that they have the opportunity to take advantage of the
> > benefits offered by open source software.
> >
> > We encourage you to consider this motion seriously for the benefits
> > and efficiencies that it will bring to your organisation,
> > residents, and businesses.
> >
> >
> > (sorry didn't get to open data)
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Kyle, Martin
> > Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 9:06 AM
> > To: [hidden email]
> > Subject: Re: [OSGeo BC] Vancouver goes open?
> >
> > Hi Jason
> >
> > As I am in transit and I cannot get a hold of Tyler to write a
> > statement...can I ask you to start a draft.
> >
> > E.g.
> >
> > We, as members of OSGeoBC, have read the motion before council
> > today concerning open data and open standards.
> >
> > We feel that it is in alignment with provincial, national, and
> > international momentum among the digital economies. By way of
> > example, the ... Example 1 (maybe EU, Geoconnections, etc...)...
> > have passed similar motions.
> >
> > ..blah blah blah...
> >
> > OSGeo is an organization...more blah blah.
> >
> > Martin
> > H. Martin Kyle, CSSLP GISP | Principal
> > Sierra Systems Group, Inc.
> >
> > (T): 604-688-1371 (C): 778-384-5409
> > 1177 West Hastings Street, Suite 2500
> > Vancouver, BC V6E 2K3
> >
> > Management Consulting | Project Implementation | Managed Services
> > website: www.SierraSystems.com
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: [hidden email] <osgeo-bc-
> > [hidden email]>
> > To: OSGeo Local Chapter, British Columbia,  Canada <osgeo-
> > [hidden email]>
> > Sent: Thu May 21 08:49:40 2009
> > Subject: RE: [OSGeo BC] Vancouver goes open?
> >
> > I'm happy with you reading a statement Tyler prepares, or one of
> > your own, as president of OSGeo BC.
> >
> > Jason
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [hidden email] [mailto:osgeo-bc-
> > [hidden email]] On Behalf Of Kyle, Martin
> > Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 8:07 AM
> > To: [hidden email]
> > Subject: Re: [OSGeo BC] Vancouver goes open?
> >
> > Hi Tyler
> >
> > I just read this messgae now.
> >
> > I have a few hours free this morning so I will head over. If you
> > can prepare a statement then I will be happy to read it given the
> > opportunity...with the chapter's'approval (by abstention if
> > necessary).
> >
> > Martin
> > H. Martin Kyle, CSSLP GISP | Principal
> > Sierra Systems Group, Inc.
> >
> > (T): 604-688-1371 (C): 778-384-5409
> > 1177 West Hastings Street, Suite 2500
> > Vancouver, BC V6E 2K3
> >
> > Management Consulting | Project Implementation | Managed Services
> > website: www.SierraSystems.com
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: [hidden email] <osgeo-bc-
> > [hidden email]>
> > To: OSGeo Local Chapter, British Columbia, Canada <osgeo-
> > [hidden email]>
> > Sent: Wed May 20 20:42:07 2009
> > Subject: Re: [OSGeo BC] Vancouver goes open?
> >
> > Unfortunately, my week has me too busy to really follow up well on
> > this topic.  But I see in this article, they welcome comments and
> > also invite people to come and speak/support the motion TOMORROW.
> >
> > http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-columbia/story/2009/05/19/tech- 
> open-
> > city-vancouver-standards-source-data-reimer.html
> >
> > Also a brief note here in their agenda:
> > http://vancouver.ca/ctyclerk/cclerk/20090521/csbu20090521ag.htm
> >
> > I won't be making it, (if only it was any other week and I had more
> > than a few days notice ;-) ) but maybe some of you locals would be
> > interested/able.  If you want to work with my on a statement we can
> > do that too.  I'm going to try to put something together, but I'm
> > afraid it's too late unless you can show up in person.  I'm sure our
> > chapter would gladly support anyone who volunteers to speak on our
> > collective behalf at 9:30 in the morning ;-)
> >
> > Something you might be interested in Gerry?  Martin?  Others?
> >
> > Tyler
> >
> >
> > On 15-May-09, at 11:40 AM, Gerry James wrote:
> >
> >> Sorry I sent that reply just to Tyler...my bad.
> >>
> >> I would strongly recommend contacting Jonathan Marks.  He is the
> >> GIS manager
> >> with the COV (at least he used to be).  I have spoken to him a few
> >> times but
> >> wouldn't necessarily call him a contact.  I do not have any other
> >> contacts
> >> but would be very interested to collaborate with you on a meeting.
> >>
> >> Let me know how I can help with this initiative.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Gerry
> >> _________________________________________
> >> Gerry James, B.Sc., GISP
> >> President/Lead Consultant
> >> *****************************************
> >> Carteryx Geomatics Consultants Inc.
> >> Spatial Intelligence for a Changing World
> >> www.carteryx.com
> >> _________________________________________
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: [hidden email]
> >> [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Tyler  
> Mitchell
> >> (OSGeo)
> >> Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 11:24 AM
> >> To: OSGeo-BC List
> >> Subject: [OSGeo BC] Vancouver goes open?
> >>
> >> Thanks to Will for sending me this article:
> >> http://eaves.ca/2009/05/14/vancouver-enters-the-age-of-the-open- 
> city/
> >>
> >> I'd like to come up with a plan to discuss this move with city
> >> administrators in Vancouver.  So asking for your input on a couple
> >> fronts:
> >>
> >> * Are you familiar with the current geospatial projects going on in
> >> the city?  I assume it's a huge list of complex wild stuff, but
> >> looking for specific ideas where we could connect.
> >> * Do you have a good contact for following up with city management-
> >> level staff there?  City Manager is responsible on paper, but who
> >> else might you know from the geospatial angle that I could meet  
> with?
> >> * Available/interested to join with me if I can get a meeting?
> >>
> >> Best wishes, brainstorming welcome :)
> >>
> >> Tyler
> >>
> >> Tyler Mitchell
> >> Executive Director
> >> Open Source Geospatial Foundation
> >> [hidden email]
> >> P: +1-250-277-1621
> >> M: +1-250-303-1831
> >>
> >>
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Hmmm.   I *think* that what actually happened (at least for practical purposes) was that the politicians told the staff, "we'd like to make this happen.  Go look at it and make it happen where practical, and give us a report of where it is difficult."

This means that the staff needs to figure out how to do this, and they might profit from some help/advice.  I'm not sure they are willing to ask for it, but they might.

There were quite a lot of general FOSS people, including a lot of people involved with the OpenWeb conference coming up.  The poor staff people sort of got swarmed afterward, and I didn't have the heart to push my way into that.  I do know the woman at the head of the queue, and I will confer with her later.

I do have the card of Jim Ridge, currently the Deputy City Manager and apparently the IT boss, and I have an action item to send him email.  I did tell him that I was available to give advice, and I will take the liberty of also giving him your (Tyler's) name/email address.  (Ridge is leaving for a job at UBC VERY SOON, so I will send that email immediately after this one.)


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James Ridge is Deputy City Manager and CIO but he is not the Director of IT.  He is indeed leaving by month end for the UBC position.

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From: [hidden email] on behalf of Kaitlin Duck Sherwood
Sent: Thu 5/21/2009 8:24 PM
To: OSGeo Local Chapter, British Columbia, Canada
Subject: Re: [OSGeo BC] Vancouver goes open?


Hmmm.   I *think* that what actually happened (at least for practical purposes) was that the politicians told the staff, "we'd like to make this happen.  Go look at it and make it happen where practical, and give us a report of where it is difficult."

This means that the staff needs to figure out how to do this, and they might profit from some help/advice.  I'm not sure they are willing to ask for it, but they might.

There were quite a lot of general FOSS people, including a lot of people involved with the OpenWeb conference coming up.  The poor staff people sort of got swarmed afterward, and I didn't have the heart to push my way into that.  I do know the woman at the head of the queue, and I will confer with her later.

I do have the card of Jim Ridge, currently the Deputy City Manager and apparently the IT boss, and I have an action item to send him email.  I did tell him that I was available to give advice, and I will take the liberty of also giving him your (Tyler's) name/email address.  (Ridge is leaving for a job at UBC VERY SOON, so I will send that email immediately after this one.)


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