[VOTE] create new contrib top level project

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[VOTE] create new contrib top level project

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Hello all,

Following the initial discussion at
http://markmail.org/thread/kachlhm3d26g22jb I by this mail throw a vote
to move on and create the contrib project.

After giving it some more thoughts in a discussion with Vincent, here is
what I propose :

1) Create a "contrib" top level project, so create :
- The "contrib.xwiki.org" wiki with the draft at
http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Drafts/Contrib-Main-WebHome as
initial content for it's Main.WebHome
- List this wiki in the Main.Forge page on www.xwiki.org, and also
refactor a little this page using the content at
http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Drafts/Www-Main-Forge (The main
noticeable difference is the change of wording between "XWiki Products
and Extensions" to "XWiki [Top Level] Projects", and the fact platform
now belongs to the list).
- Create a contrib directory at svn.xwiki.org/svnroot/, with the
following architecture :
contrib/
|__people/
|__projects/
|__retired/
|__sandbox/

*people* will be a directory for "personal tests" projects (such as
http://svn.xwiki.org/svnroot/xwiki/sandbox/xdom/). The idea is behind is
to give whoever requests it a personal space where he can experiment
with XWiki code, and that space is private (i.e. an implied rule is that
people are not supposed to commit code in others projects, thus making
it different from sandbox projects). Each sub-folder of people/ will be
composed of the name of the person that requests his project, for
example "jvelociter".
*projects* will hosts the actual contrib projects, that are active
(meaning that they still do make sense as projects in the XWiki
ecosystem, they are not abandoned, etc.)
*retired* will be the "place where dead project go ;(" for example
http://svn.xwiki.org/svnroot/xwiki/sandbox/xeclipse-gsoc/ since it's now
replaced by the XEclipse top level project.
*sandbox* will be the new place for the current sandbox. We therefore
propose to move all sandboxed projects here (except for the retired ones
that will go straight to california).

2) Create a "XWiki Contribs" JIRA project with projects from "sandbox"
and "projects" as components. Note that we want to leave open the
possibility for big projects to have their own JIRA on our installation
as well. We will move existing issues that are right now correctly
componentized in the current XSANDBOX to the new project, and lose the
other ones (which are a couple of old closed issues AFAIR).

Here is my +1

Please let me know what you think of all this. If we agree I'd like to
make the move during the week.

Thanks,
Jerome.
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tmortagne

Re: [VOTE] create new contrib top level project

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On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 21:33, Jerome Velociter <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> Following the initial discussion at
> http://markmail.org/thread/kachlhm3d26g22jb I by this mail throw a vote
> to move on and create the contrib project.
>
> After giving it some more thoughts in a discussion with Vincent, here is
> what I propose :
>
> 1) Create a "contrib" top level project, so create :
> - The "contrib.xwiki.org" wiki with the draft at
> http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Drafts/Contrib-Main-WebHome as
> initial content for it's Main.WebHome
> - List this wiki in the Main.Forge page on www.xwiki.org, and also
> refactor a little this page using the content at
> http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Drafts/Www-Main-Forge (The main
> noticeable difference is the change of wording between "XWiki Products
> and Extensions" to "XWiki [Top Level] Projects", and the fact platform
> now belongs to the list).
> - Create a contrib directory at svn.xwiki.org/svnroot/, with the
> following architecture :
> contrib/
> |__people/
> |__projects/
> |__retired/
> |__sandbox/
>
> *people* will be a directory for "personal tests" projects (such as
> http://svn.xwiki.org/svnroot/xwiki/sandbox/xdom/). The idea is behind is
> to give whoever requests it a personal space where he can experiment
> with XWiki code, and that space is private (i.e. an implied rule is that
> people are not supposed to commit code in others projects, thus making
> it different from sandbox projects). Each sub-folder of people/ will be
> composed of the name of the person that requests his project, for
> example "jvelociter".
> *projects* will hosts the actual contrib projects, that are active
> (meaning that they still do make sense as projects in the XWiki
> ecosystem, they are not abandoned, etc.)
> *retired* will be the "place where dead project go ;(" for example
> http://svn.xwiki.org/svnroot/xwiki/sandbox/xeclipse-gsoc/ since it's now
> replaced by the XEclipse top level project.
> *sandbox* will be the new place for the current sandbox. We therefore
> propose to move all sandboxed projects here (except for the retired ones
> that will go straight to california).
>
> 2) Create a "XWiki Contribs" JIRA project with projects from "sandbox"
> and "projects" as components. Note that we want to leave open the
> possibility for big projects to have their own JIRA on our installation
> as well. We will move existing issues that are right now correctly
> componentized in the current XSANDBOX to the new project, and lose the
> other ones (which are a couple of old closed issues AFAIR).
>
> Here is my +1
>
> Please let me know what you think of all this. If we agree I'd like to
> make the move during the week.

Sounds good, +1

>
> Thanks,
> Jerome.
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>

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Jerome Velociter-2

Re: [VOTE] create new contrib top level project

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See below,

On 11/2/09 9:33 PM, Jerome Velociter wrote:

Projects currently in sandbox I see good candidates for a direct
promotion as "projects/" under the new contrib repo :

- applications/xwiki-application-faq/
- applications/xwiki-application-meetingmanager/
- applications/xwiki-application-multipageexport/
- applications/xwiki-application-qa/
- applications/xwiki-application-recruitmentmanager/
- applications/xwiki-macro-todo/
- xwiki-application-ratings/ + plugins/ratings
- plugins/collection
- plugins/excel

Projects I see should go directly in "retired/" :

- agilepm/
- com.xpn.xwiki.wikimodel/ (obsoleted by the new rendering engine)
- formeditor/
- jcrstore/
- org.xwiki.*/ (obsoleted by the XEclipse TLP)
- xunit/
<http://svn.xwiki.org/svnroot/xwiki/sandbox/com.xpn.xwiki.wikimodel/> -
xwiki-clients/
- xwiki-core-rest/ (obsolete, REST is now committed in core)

Jerome.

> 2) Create a "XWiki Contribs" JIRA project with projects from "sandbox"
> and "projects" as components. Note that we want to leave open the
> possibility for big projects to have their own JIRA on our installation
> as well. We will move existing issues that are right now correctly
> componentized in the current XSANDBOX to the new project, and lose the
> other ones (which are a couple of old closed issues AFAIR).
>
> Here is my +1
>
> Please let me know what you think of all this. If we agree I'd like to
> make the move during the week.
>
> Thanks,
> Jerome.
> _______________________________________________
> devs mailing list
> [hidden email]
> http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs

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Asiri Rathnayake

Re: [VOTE] create new contrib top level project

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+1.

- Asiri

On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 2:03 AM, Jerome Velociter <[hidden email]> wrote:

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vmassol

Re: [VOTE] create new contrib top level project

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On Nov 2, 2009, at 9:33 PM, Jerome Velociter wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> Following the initial discussion at
> http://markmail.org/thread/kachlhm3d26g22jb I by this mail throw a
> vote
> to move on and create the contrib project.
>
> After giving it some more thoughts in a discussion with Vincent,
> here is
> what I propose :
>
> 1) Create a "contrib" top level project, so create :
> - The "contrib.xwiki.org" wiki with the draft at
> http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Drafts/Contrib-Main-WebHome as
> initial content for it's Main.WebHome

I would rephrase:

"The XWiki Contrib Project provides facilities for contributed
projects that relates to XWiki products and projects. It is the
privileged (but not mandatory) infrastructure for projects contributed
on code.xwiki.org : modules, macros, plugins, and so"

as:

"The XWiki Contrib Project provides hosting for projects related to
XWiki. These projects are not part of the official XWiki distributions
and are not maintained by the XWiki development team."

And:

"A JIRA project for tracking bugs and feature requests, at http://jira.xwiki.org/
and under the "XWiki Contributed projects" category"

as:

"A JIRA project for tracking bugs and feature requests, at http://jira.xwiki.org/
and under the "XWiki Contributed projects" category. Note that there
will be a generic JIRA project to be used by all projects till they
achieve a first release or till they grow to a size significant enough
to warrant a dedicated JIRA project"

For:
"Project pages on code.xwiki.org to describe and document the project."

One issue is that code.xwiki.org is about finished and usable stuff
IMO. So a first version should have been released before a page is put
there IMO. In the meantime projects could use contrib.xwiki.org.
Actually I'd prefer that all contrib projects use contrib.xwiki.org
(possibly using the classes from code.xwiki.org) and that they are
aggregated on code.xwiki.org. In the same manner (to be symmetric) I'd
prefer that content on code.xwiki.org that belongs to the platform be
moved to platform.xwiki.org and be aggregated on code.xwiki.org

For:
"Simply send us an email at devs AT xwiki.org with the name and a
description of your project (pointing us to its page on code.xwiki.org
in the event it is already contributed here) and let us know which of
the listed tools you need."

I'd suggest to use "[Contrib]" in the mail's title + not create pages
on code.xwiki.org (especially if they're drafts) as mentioned in the
point above.

> - List this wiki in the Main.Forge page on www.xwiki.org, and also
> refactor a little this page using the content at
> http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Drafts/Www-Main-Forge (The main
> noticeable difference is the change of wording between "XWiki Products
> and Extensions" to "XWiki [Top Level] Projects", and the fact platform
> now belongs to the list).

I've slightly reworded some elements of the page (product --> project).

Also we need to move the chronopolys source code to this svn.

> - Create a contrib directory at svn.xwiki.org/svnroot/, with the
> following architecture :
> contrib/
> |__people/
> |__projects/
> |__retired/
> |__sandbox/
>
> *people* will be a directory for "personal tests" projects (such as
> http://svn.xwiki.org/svnroot/xwiki/sandbox/xdom/). The idea is
> behind is
> to give whoever requests it a personal space where he can experiment
> with XWiki code, and that space is private (i.e. an implied rule is
> that
> people are not supposed to commit code in others projects, thus making
> it different from sandbox projects). Each sub-folder of people/ will
> be
> composed of the name of the person that requests his project, for
> example "jvelociter".
> *projects* will hosts the actual contrib projects, that are active
> (meaning that they still do make sense as projects in the XWiki
> ecosystem, they are not abandoned, etc.)
> *retired* will be the "place where dead project go ;(" for example
> http://svn.xwiki.org/svnroot/xwiki/sandbox/xeclipse-gsoc/ since it's
> now
> replaced by the XEclipse top level project.
> *sandbox* will be the new place for the current sandbox. We therefore
> propose to move all sandboxed projects here (except for the retired
> ones
> that will go straight to california).
>
> 2) Create a "XWiki Contribs" JIRA project with projects from "sandbox"
> and "projects" as components. Note that we want to leave open the
> possibility for big projects to have their own JIRA on our
> installation
> as well. We will move existing issues that are right now correctly
> componentized in the current XSANDBOX to the new project, and lose
> the
> other ones (which are a couple of old closed issues AFAIR).

These guidelines should be put on http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Drafts/Contrib-Main-WebHome
too.

> Here is my +1
>
> Please let me know what you think of all this. If we agree I'd like to
> make the move during the week.

+1 too and I can help.

Note that this means removing the current Sandbox (i.e. http://svn.xwiki.org/svnroot/xwiki/sandbox/
+ http://sandbox.xwiki.org) for those who haven't fully read :)

Thanks
-Vincent

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Jerome Velociter-2

Re: [VOTE] create new contrib top level project

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On 11/4/09 1:07 PM, Vincent Massol wrote:

>
> On Nov 2, 2009, at 9:33 PM, Jerome Velociter wrote:
>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> Following the initial discussion at
>> http://markmail.org/thread/kachlhm3d26g22jb I by this mail throw a
>> vote
>> to move on and create the contrib project.
>>
>> After giving it some more thoughts in a discussion with Vincent,
>> here is
>> what I propose :
>>
>> 1) Create a "contrib" top level project, so create :
>> - The "contrib.xwiki.org" wiki with the draft at
>> http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Drafts/Contrib-Main-WebHome as
>> initial content for it's Main.WebHome
>
> I would rephrase:
>
> "The XWiki Contrib Project provides facilities for contributed
> projects that relates to XWiki products and projects. It is the
> privileged (but not mandatory) infrastructure for projects contributed
> on code.xwiki.org : modules, macros, plugins, and so"
>
> as:
>
> "The XWiki Contrib Project provides hosting for projects related to
> XWiki. These projects are not part of the official XWiki distributions
> and are not maintained by the XWiki development team."
>
> And:
>
> "A JIRA project for tracking bugs and feature requests, at http://jira.xwiki.org/
> and under the "XWiki Contributed projects" category"
>
> as:
>
> "A JIRA project for tracking bugs and feature requests, at http://jira.xwiki.org/
> and under the "XWiki Contributed projects" category. Note that there
> will be a generic JIRA project to be used by all projects till they
> achieve a first release or till they grow to a size significant enough
> to warrant a dedicated JIRA project"
>
> For:
> "Project pages on code.xwiki.org to describe and document the project."
>
> One issue is that code.xwiki.org is about finished and usable stuff
> IMO. So a first version should have been released before a page is put
> there IMO. In the meantime projects could use contrib.xwiki.org.
> Actually I'd prefer that all contrib projects use contrib.xwiki.org
> (possibly using the classes from code.xwiki.org) and that they are
> aggregated on code.xwiki.org. In the same manner (to be symmetric) I'd
> prefer that content on code.xwiki.org that belongs to the platform be
> moved to platform.xwiki.org and be aggregated on code.xwiki.org

I agree here, thought I will take the time we re-work code.xwiki.org
before we can do the content aggregation from different sites. But this
is not blocker for the time being : released (read "usable") modules are
documented on code.xwiki.org and in-progress projects can have a page on
contrib, until we sort this all out.

>
> For:
> "Simply send us an email at devs AT xwiki.org with the name and a
> description of your project (pointing us to its page on code.xwiki.org
> in the event it is already contributed here) and let us know which of
> the listed tools you need."
>
> I'd suggest to use "[Contrib]" in the mail's title + not create pages
> on code.xwiki.org (especially if they're drafts) as mentioned in the
> point above.

Yes.. there is a risk people create a page when it's not needed (that's
why I mentionned "in the case it already contributed here").

Fine with that.

>
>> - List this wiki in the Main.Forge page on www.xwiki.org, and also
>> refactor a little this page using the content at
>> http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Drafts/Www-Main-Forge (The main
>> noticeable difference is the change of wording between "XWiki Products
>> and Extensions" to "XWiki [Top Level] Projects", and the fact platform
>> now belongs to the list).
>
> I've slightly reworded some elements of the page (product --> project).
>
> Also we need to move the chronopolys source code to this svn.
>
>> - Create a contrib directory at svn.xwiki.org/svnroot/, with the
>> following architecture :
>> contrib/
>> |__people/
>> |__projects/
>> |__retired/
>> |__sandbox/
>>
>> *people* will be a directory for "personal tests" projects (such as
>> http://svn.xwiki.org/svnroot/xwiki/sandbox/xdom/). The idea is
>> behind is
>> to give whoever requests it a personal space where he can experiment
>> with XWiki code, and that space is private (i.e. an implied rule is
>> that
>> people are not supposed to commit code in others projects, thus making
>> it different from sandbox projects). Each sub-folder of people/ will
>> be
>> composed of the name of the person that requests his project, for
>> example "jvelociter".
>> *projects* will hosts the actual contrib projects, that are active
>> (meaning that they still do make sense as projects in the XWiki
>> ecosystem, they are not abandoned, etc.)
>> *retired* will be the "place where dead project go ;(" for example
>> http://svn.xwiki.org/svnroot/xwiki/sandbox/xeclipse-gsoc/ since it's
>> now
>> replaced by the XEclipse top level project.
>> *sandbox* will be the new place for the current sandbox. We therefore
>> propose to move all sandboxed projects here (except for the retired
>> ones
>> that will go straight to california).
>>
>> 2) Create a "XWiki Contribs" JIRA project with projects from "sandbox"
>> and "projects" as components. Note that we want to leave open the
>> possibility for big projects to have their own JIRA on our
>> installation
>> as well. We will move existing issues that are right now correctly
>> componentized in the current XSANDBOX to the new project, and lose
>> the
>> other ones (which are a couple of old closed issues AFAIR).
>
> These guidelines should be put on http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Drafts/Contrib-Main-WebHome
> too.

Right, will do that.
>
>> Here is my +1
>>
>> Please let me know what you think of all this. If we agree I'd like to
>> make the move during the week.
>
> +1 too and I can help.

Thanks for the feedback and for the help

Jerome.

>
> Note that this means removing the current Sandbox (i.e. http://svn.xwiki.org/svnroot/xwiki/sandbox/
> + http://sandbox.xwiki.org) for those who haven't fully read :)
>
> Thanks
> -Vincent
>
> _______________________________________________
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vmassol

Re: [VOTE] create new contrib top level project

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On Nov 4, 2009, at 1:15 PM, Jerome Velociter wrote:

> On 11/4/09 1:07 PM, Vincent Massol wrote:
>>
>> On Nov 2, 2009, at 9:33 PM, Jerome Velociter wrote:
>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> Following the initial discussion at
>>> http://markmail.org/thread/kachlhm3d26g22jb I by this mail throw a
>>> vote
>>> to move on and create the contrib project.
>>>
>>> After giving it some more thoughts in a discussion with Vincent,
>>> here is
>>> what I propose :
>>>
>>> 1) Create a "contrib" top level project, so create :
>>> - The "contrib.xwiki.org" wiki with the draft at
>>> http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Drafts/Contrib-Main-WebHome as
>>> initial content for it's Main.WebHome
>>
>> I would rephrase:
>>
>> "The XWiki Contrib Project provides facilities for contributed
>> projects that relates to XWiki products and projects. It is the
>> privileged (but not mandatory) infrastructure for projects
>> contributed
>> on code.xwiki.org : modules, macros, plugins, and so"
>>
>> as:
>>
>> "The XWiki Contrib Project provides hosting for projects related to
>> XWiki. These projects are not part of the official XWiki
>> distributions
>> and are not maintained by the XWiki development team."
>>
>> And:
>>
>> "A JIRA project for tracking bugs and feature requests, at http://jira.xwiki.org/
>> and under the "XWiki Contributed projects" category"
>>
>> as:
>>
>> "A JIRA project for tracking bugs and feature requests, at http://jira.xwiki.org/
>> and under the "XWiki Contributed projects" category. Note that
>> there
>> will be a generic JIRA project to be used by all projects till they
>> achieve a first release or till they grow to a size significant
>> enough
>> to warrant a dedicated JIRA project"
>>
>> For:
>> "Project pages on code.xwiki.org to describe and document the
>> project."
>>
>> One issue is that code.xwiki.org is about finished and usable stuff
>> IMO. So a first version should have been released before a page is
>> put
>> there IMO. In the meantime projects could use contrib.xwiki.org.
>> Actually I'd prefer that all contrib projects use contrib.xwiki.org
>> (possibly using the classes from code.xwiki.org) and that they are
>> aggregated on code.xwiki.org. In the same manner (to be symmetric)
>> I'd
>> prefer that content on code.xwiki.org that belongs to the platform be
>> moved to platform.xwiki.org and be aggregated on code.xwiki.org
>
> I agree here, thought I will take the time we re-work code.xwiki.org
> before we can do the content aggregation from different sites. But
> this
> is not blocker for the time being : released (read "usable") modules
> are
> documented on code.xwiki.org and in-progress projects can have a
> page on
> contrib, until we sort this all out.

I agree. This could be documented on the contrib home page too, to
explain what's the target and to explain the "released" vs "work in
progress" locations.

-Vincent

>> For:
>> "Simply send us an email at devs AT xwiki.org with the name and a
>> description of your project (pointing us to its page on
>> code.xwiki.org
>> in the event it is already contributed here) and let us know which of
>> the listed tools you need."
>>
>> I'd suggest to use "[Contrib]" in the mail's title + not create pages
>> on code.xwiki.org (especially if they're drafts) as mentioned in the
>> point above.
>
> Yes.. there is a risk people create a page when it's not needed
> (that's
> why I mentionned "in the case it already contributed here").
>
> Fine with that.
>>
>>> - List this wiki in the Main.Forge page on www.xwiki.org, and also
>>> refactor a little this page using the content at
>>> http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Drafts/Www-Main-Forge (The main
>>> noticeable difference is the change of wording between "XWiki
>>> Products
>>> and Extensions" to "XWiki [Top Level] Projects", and the fact
>>> platform
>>> now belongs to the list).
>>
>> I've slightly reworded some elements of the page (product -->
>> project).
>>
>> Also we need to move the chronopolys source code to this svn.
>>
>>> - Create a contrib directory at svn.xwiki.org/svnroot/, with the
>>> following architecture :
>>> contrib/
>>> |__people/
>>> |__projects/
>>> |__retired/
>>> |__sandbox/
>>>
>>> *people* will be a directory for "personal tests" projects (such as
>>> http://svn.xwiki.org/svnroot/xwiki/sandbox/xdom/). The idea is
>>> behind is
>>> to give whoever requests it a personal space where he can experiment
>>> with XWiki code, and that space is private (i.e. an implied rule is
>>> that
>>> people are not supposed to commit code in others projects, thus
>>> making
>>> it different from sandbox projects). Each sub-folder of people/ will
>>> be
>>> composed of the name of the person that requests his project, for
>>> example "jvelociter".
>>> *projects* will hosts the actual contrib projects, that are active
>>> (meaning that they still do make sense as projects in the XWiki
>>> ecosystem, they are not abandoned, etc.)
>>> *retired* will be the "place where dead project go ;(" for example
>>> http://svn.xwiki.org/svnroot/xwiki/sandbox/xeclipse-gsoc/ since it's
>>> now
>>> replaced by the XEclipse top level project.
>>> *sandbox* will be the new place for the current sandbox. We
>>> therefore
>>> propose to move all sandboxed projects here (except for the retired
>>> ones
>>> that will go straight to california).
>>>
>>> 2) Create a "XWiki Contribs" JIRA project with projects from
>>> "sandbox"
>>> and "projects" as components. Note that we want to leave open the
>>> possibility for big projects to have their own JIRA on our
>>> installation
>>> as well. We will move existing issues that are right now correctly
>>> componentized in the current XSANDBOX to the new project, and lose
>>> the
>>> other ones (which are a couple of old closed issues AFAIR).
>>
>> These guidelines should be put on http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Drafts/Contrib-Main-WebHome
>> too.
>
> Right, will do that.
>>
>>> Here is my +1
>>>
>>> Please let me know what you think of all this. If we agree I'd
>>> like to
>>> make the move during the week.
>>
>> +1 too and I can help.
>
> Thanks for the feedback and for the help
>
> Jerome.
>>
>> Note that this means removing the current Sandbox (i.e. http://svn.xwiki.org/svnroot/xwiki/sandbox/
>> + http://sandbox.xwiki.org) for those who haven't fully read :)
>>
>> Thanks
>> -Vincent
>>
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Re: [VOTE] create new contrib top level project

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+1,

Thanks,
Marius

Vincent Massol wrote:

> On Nov 2, 2009, at 9:33 PM, Jerome Velociter wrote:
>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> Following the initial discussion at
>> http://markmail.org/thread/kachlhm3d26g22jb I by this mail throw a
>> vote
>> to move on and create the contrib project.
>>
>> After giving it some more thoughts in a discussion with Vincent,
>> here is
>> what I propose :
>>
>> 1) Create a "contrib" top level project, so create :
>> - The "contrib.xwiki.org" wiki with the draft at
>> http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Drafts/Contrib-Main-WebHome as
>> initial content for it's Main.WebHome
>
> I would rephrase:
>
> "The XWiki Contrib Project provides facilities for contributed
> projects that relates to XWiki products and projects. It is the
> privileged (but not mandatory) infrastructure for projects contributed
> on code.xwiki.org : modules, macros, plugins, and so"
>
> as:
>
> "The XWiki Contrib Project provides hosting for projects related to
> XWiki. These projects are not part of the official XWiki distributions
> and are not maintained by the XWiki development team."
>
> And:
>
> "A JIRA project for tracking bugs and feature requests, at http://jira.xwiki.org/
> and under the "XWiki Contributed projects" category"
>
> as:
>
> "A JIRA project for tracking bugs and feature requests, at http://jira.xwiki.org/
> and under the "XWiki Contributed projects" category. Note that there
> will be a generic JIRA project to be used by all projects till they
> achieve a first release or till they grow to a size significant enough
> to warrant a dedicated JIRA project"
>
> For:
> "Project pages on code.xwiki.org to describe and document the project."
>
> One issue is that code.xwiki.org is about finished and usable stuff
> IMO. So a first version should have been released before a page is put
> there IMO. In the meantime projects could use contrib.xwiki.org.
> Actually I'd prefer that all contrib projects use contrib.xwiki.org
> (possibly using the classes from code.xwiki.org) and that they are
> aggregated on code.xwiki.org. In the same manner (to be symmetric) I'd
> prefer that content on code.xwiki.org that belongs to the platform be
> moved to platform.xwiki.org and be aggregated on code.xwiki.org
>
> For:
> "Simply send us an email at devs AT xwiki.org with the name and a
> description of your project (pointing us to its page on code.xwiki.org
> in the event it is already contributed here) and let us know which of
> the listed tools you need."
>
> I'd suggest to use "[Contrib]" in the mail's title + not create pages
> on code.xwiki.org (especially if they're drafts) as mentioned in the
> point above.
>
>> - List this wiki in the Main.Forge page on www.xwiki.org, and also
>> refactor a little this page using the content at
>> http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Drafts/Www-Main-Forge (The main
>> noticeable difference is the change of wording between "XWiki Products
>> and Extensions" to "XWiki [Top Level] Projects", and the fact platform
>> now belongs to the list).
>
> I've slightly reworded some elements of the page (product --> project).
>
> Also we need to move the chronopolys source code to this svn.
>
>> - Create a contrib directory at svn.xwiki.org/svnroot/, with the
>> following architecture :
>> contrib/
>> |__people/
>> |__projects/
>> |__retired/
>> |__sandbox/
>>
>> *people* will be a directory for "personal tests" projects (such as
>> http://svn.xwiki.org/svnroot/xwiki/sandbox/xdom/). The idea is
>> behind is
>> to give whoever requests it a personal space where he can experiment
>> with XWiki code, and that space is private (i.e. an implied rule is
>> that
>> people are not supposed to commit code in others projects, thus making
>> it different from sandbox projects). Each sub-folder of people/ will
>> be
>> composed of the name of the person that requests his project, for
>> example "jvelociter".
>> *projects* will hosts the actual contrib projects, that are active
>> (meaning that they still do make sense as projects in the XWiki
>> ecosystem, they are not abandoned, etc.)
>> *retired* will be the "place where dead project go ;(" for example
>> http://svn.xwiki.org/svnroot/xwiki/sandbox/xeclipse-gsoc/ since it's
>> now
>> replaced by the XEclipse top level project.
>> *sandbox* will be the new place for the current sandbox. We therefore
>> propose to move all sandboxed projects here (except for the retired
>> ones
>> that will go straight to california).
>>
>> 2) Create a "XWiki Contribs" JIRA project with projects from "sandbox"
>> and "projects" as components. Note that we want to leave open the
>> possibility for big projects to have their own JIRA on our
>> installation
>> as well. We will move existing issues that are right now correctly
>> componentized in the current XSANDBOX to the new project, and lose
>> the
>> other ones (which are a couple of old closed issues AFAIR).
>
> These guidelines should be put on http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Drafts/Contrib-Main-WebHome
> too.
>
>> Here is my +1
>>
>> Please let me know what you think of all this. If we agree I'd like to
>> make the move during the week.
>
> +1 too and I can help.
>
> Note that this means removing the current Sandbox (i.e. http://svn.xwiki.org/svnroot/xwiki/sandbox/
> + http://sandbox.xwiki.org) for those who haven't fully read :)
>
> Thanks
> -Vincent
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Re: [VOTE] create new contrib top level project

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+1

On 11/02/2009 10:33 PM, Jerome Velociter wrote:

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On 11/2/09 9:33 PM, Jerome Velociter wrote:
> Hello all,
> [snip]
> - Create a contrib directory at svn.xwiki.org/svnroot/, with the
> following architecture :

Note the real SVN URL will be
http://svn.xwiki.org/svnroot/xwiki/contrib, not
http://svn.xwiki.org/svnroot/contrib (Thus, it is a subdirectory of the
XWiki repository, and not a new repository).

Jerome.

> contrib/
> |__people/
> |__projects/
> |__retired/
> |__sandbox/
>
> [snip]
>
> Thanks,
> Jerome.
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