Translation of a folder & the (lack of) the fallback language

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Translation of a folder & the (lack of) the fallback language

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Hi!

I am very much a newbie to Plone. I am using Plone (3.2.1, that has Plone Language Tool included) and LinguaPlone.

I want to have a second language for a site (that I am about to create). I have read that I could create one folder for each language. But I would prefer the other option, which is to have the translation in the same folder. This is because only part of pages will be translated, and when a translation is not available, it will show the page using the fallback (default) language. Or this is my understanding of the alternatives.

But I want all the folders (and thus all the menu-options) to be translated. And, as I understand, this should not be a problem.

What I do after I have installed a Plone site:
1) In ZMI->Portal_languages I set "Allow content language fallback" and "Create content
initially as neutral language", and I set default language to English and choose English and Norwegian as the "Allowed Languages"
2) In Plone I create the folder "My Folder" under root, with the default neutral language
3) In "My Folder" I create the page "My Page", also with default neutral language

When I click on the Norwegian language, I see the default neutral language (English). Perfect.

I want to translate the folder, but not the page in the folder. I do the following:
4) With the default English version, I translate the folder "My Folder" to "Min folder"

Now I see a Norwegian translation of the folder. And when I switch between the languages, the folder name changes. Also Perfect. But in Norwegian the folder is empty, there is no default neutral language page showing.

How can I have the Norwegian translation fall back to show the neutral (English) page when I do not have a translation of that page?

Any help would be much appreciated! Thanks!

Frode
Vincent Fretin

Re: Translation of a folder & the (lack of) the fallback language

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Hi,

I understand the problem. I used LinguaPlone a bit.
I don't think it's possible to show neutral pages in a translated
folder. For me it's a different folder, so different content in that
folder.
Maybe I'm wrong and I don't see how to do that too.

Regards
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Vincent Fretin

On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 6:02 PM, frodefi <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> Hi!
>
> I am very much a newbie to Plone. I am using Plone (3.2.1, that has Plone Language Tool included) and LinguaPlone.
>
> I want to have a second language for a site (that I am about to create). I have read that I could create one folder for each language. But I would prefer the other option, which is to have the translation in the same folder. This is because only part of pages will be translated, and when a translation is not available, it will show the page using the fallback (default) language. Or this is my understanding of the alternatives.
>
> But I want all the folders (and thus all the menu-options) to be translated. And, as I understand, this should not be a problem.
>
> What I do after I have installed a Plone site:
> 1) In ZMI->Portal_languages I set "Allow content language fallback" and "Create content
> initially as neutral language", and I set default language to English and choose English and Norwegian as the "Allowed Languages"
> 2) In Plone I create the folder "My Folder" under root, with the default neutral language
> 3) In "My Folder" I create the page "My Page", also with default neutral language
>
> When I click on the Norwegian language, I see the default neutral language (English). Perfect.
>
> I want to translate the folder, but not the page in the folder. I do the following:
> 4) With the default English version, I translate the folder "My Folder" to "Min folder"
>
> Now I see a Norwegian translation of the folder. And when I switch between the languages, the folder name changes. Also Perfect. But in Norwegian the folder is empty, there is no default neutral language page showing.
>
> How can I have the Norwegian translation fall back to show the neutral (English) page when I do not have a translation of that page?
>
> Any help would be much appreciated! Thanks!
>
> Frode
>
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