Thoughts on standing down from the Board of OSGeo

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dear all,

I have been meaning for ages to write a long reflective mail on
standing down from the board of OSGeo, but realise if I don't write
something short I'm in danger of writing nothing at all.

The role I have filled on OSGeo's Board has been an amazing learning
experience for me. I have felt honoured to be in a representative
position for such a large and powerful community.

FOSS4G is reaching a real maturity; I have seen a conservative ops
manager decide that this year it's safe to migrate the big systems to
PostGIS, and rebuild the interface with OpenLayers. OSGeo can work on
turning the most recent wave of adopters into advocates and
supporters. There is more work to be done for documentation and
packaging than there is for code, now. There is a lot to be done in
education, convincing people that free software is fine for
coursework, that skills transfer.

OSGeo has quite a unique structure now, with the flourishing of local
user groups and the solid, ASF-like core of projects. Decision-making
is delegated so comprehensively that a lot of the Board business is
rubber-stamping. Correspondingly it's been quite an activist Board
with at least a couple of members on each committee; rather than a
hands-free advisory style Board attempting to set "strategic"
direction.

The question of how does OSGeo Foundation support itself financially
has always recurred at Board meetings. This year due to the general
cuts in sponsorship and marketing budgets we have had a significant
financial shortfall, and next year may be little better. After that,
though, the "market" potentially there for open source geographic
applications will have grown, and OSGeo will be a great store of
kudos.

How can we change OSGeo to sustain its running costs - whether we try
to generate more income from the conference (restricting where it can
be held), or we partner to run workshops commercially, or do some
consultancy work (and on what terms), or seek more or bigger sponsors
(which has proved precarious) - this is my biggest question to the
next Board.

Recently I've not been as engaged with OSGeo as I would like and don't
really feel that I am representative now; so I won't re-stand this
year in the Board elections. I am grateful to have had this concern
for three years, and will try to stay involved through OSGeo-Scotland,
OSGeo-UK, and ongoing effort towards open geodata.

be well!


jo
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Cameron Shorter-2

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Thanks Jo,
This is very useful information for prospective future board members. I
wonder whether other board members would want to add to the list of
issues future boards should consider.

I'm also interested to hear the level of commitment involved in being a
board member.

Jo Walsh wrote:

> dear all,
>
> I have been meaning for ages to write a long reflective mail on
> standing down from the board of OSGeo, but realise if I don't write
> something short I'm in danger of writing nothing at all.
>
> The role I have filled on OSGeo's Board has been an amazing learning
> experience for me. I have felt honoured to be in a representative
> position for such a large and powerful community.
>
> FOSS4G is reaching a real maturity; I have seen a conservative ops
> manager decide that this year it's safe to migrate the big systems to
> PostGIS, and rebuild the interface with OpenLayers. OSGeo can work on
> turning the most recent wave of adopters into advocates and
> supporters. There is more work to be done for documentation and
> packaging than there is for code, now. There is a lot to be done in
> education, convincing people that free software is fine for
> coursework, that skills transfer.
>
> OSGeo has quite a unique structure now, with the flourishing of local
> user groups and the solid, ASF-like core of projects. Decision-making
> is delegated so comprehensively that a lot of the Board business is
> rubber-stamping. Correspondingly it's been quite an activist Board
> with at least a couple of members on each committee; rather than a
> hands-free advisory style Board attempting to set "strategic"
> direction.
>
> The question of how does OSGeo Foundation support itself financially
> has always recurred at Board meetings. This year due to the general
> cuts in sponsorship and marketing budgets we have had a significant
> financial shortfall, and next year may be little better. After that,
> though, the "market" potentially there for open source geographic
> applications will have grown, and OSGeo will be a great store of
> kudos.
>
> How can we change OSGeo to sustain its running costs - whether we try
> to generate more income from the conference (restricting where it can
> be held), or we partner to run workshops commercially, or do some
> consultancy work (and on what terms), or seek more or bigger sponsors
> (which has proved precarious) - this is my biggest question to the
> next Board.
>
> Recently I've not been as engaged with OSGeo as I would like and don't
> really feel that I am representative now; so I won't re-stand this
> year in the Board elections. I am grateful to have had this concern
> for three years, and will try to stay involved through OSGeo-Scotland,
> OSGeo-UK, and ongoing effort towards open geodata.
>
> be well!
>
>
> jo
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Cameron Shorter wrote:
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> I'm also interested to hear the level of commitment involved in being a
> board member.
>

I'm also interested in hearing what is required of a board member.

-jeff


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On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 7:38 AM, Jeff McKenna
> I'm also interested in hearing what is required of a board member.

If you are aiming to be active and effective, then a couple days a
month at a minimum to review and comment on documents, contracts,
issues that have been brought forward. If you aim to be a real
activist, then add a few days onto that for working your own issues
through.

I don't like to be involved in these kinds of organizations unless I
feel I really *am* involved, and I've been finding myself doing closer
to the minimum amount of participation (just board meetings, and
sometimes not even that) over the last few months. And that's why I am
not running again. Perhaps in a year I will have the time to be more
involved at the board level and run again, but for now just
participating in all the open source projects and in the conference
committee and having a job and family life takes up most of my
discretionary time. And I am interested in getting more involved in
local (British Columbia) non-technical organizations, so I need to
clear some space in my life for that.

It's been an interested experience though, I learned some useful stuff
about organizations. I hope anyone who is thinking of running is on
the activist side of the ledger.

Paul
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Brian Hamlin

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Hi Jeff-

   recently, here in the United States, I had proposed to the Board of
OSGeo a project .. That proposal pushes OSGeo out of its "comfort zone"
I think, and calls for some thinking about what OSGeo might look like
in five years..

   The vast majority of non-profit organizations are unfunded. They are
purpose driven, may have important assets or place in a vital decision
making process, but, no employees, no offices, no "market activity" in
some ways...

   I'll briefly mention two things, but I think this might be the right
time to talk about it a bit - the downside of a pure volunteer
organization, and creating capacity ...

   Volunteers are a great feeling when it works ! but it doesnt always
work.. and, as we discussed in detail at the Wiki Conference in
Portland with Ward Cunningham, inventor of the Wiki, there are
somethings that will *never happen* with volunteers, even if they are
really needed! Because some things are just not interesting enough,
easy enough, need additional resources, and a long list of other
criteria yet to be discovered...

   Creating capacity is hard to think about, yet absolutely real when it
happens. I will avoid the example that I am not part of, Sports, and
instead bring an example that I am closer to, Medicine. You may have
heard Arnulf say that he discovered that the National Hockey League is
a non-profit. I dont know about "sports economics", but I know enough
that there would not be a team branded shirt for every 7th grade boy
that wants one, or a place strong enough to hold 10,000 screaming adult
men safely, without capacity..

   I will talk about a hospital.. Many hospitals world wide are founded
by religious or other public service organizations, who see the
absolute need for providing quality medical care. Basics, like when
someone is in urgent need of care, there is some else with training and
materials, in a clean safe place, who is ready. And, since there are a
lot of people, those places have to be very large. And, since the very
best medicine involves very special and expensive tools and supplies,
there has to be the ability to get them, etc.. This is capacity.. not
an idea of health in the abstract, but the real ability to execute
something in the real world..

   Many on this list will know about the software movement called Open
Source.. far larger than just RMS and GNU, I have done some reading
about it. Books like "The Success of Open Source" by Steven Weber, and
"Perspectives on Free and Open Source Software" MIT Press do some
justice to this large and growing topic. Here in California we have
OSCon, a commercial convention, started as the Perl Conference, where
this year, OSGeo presented as an OSS org for the first time.

  I present to the Board of OSGeo that there are opportunities to build
capacity, and to have an organization that is not only a volunteer
organization. It is up to the Board to decide if that is where OSGeo
wants to go, and how.. As technical practitioners, there is sometimes a
tendency to look at the work. I suggest that there is also an
organizational opportunity to look at, and that is part of the role of
an OSGeo Board member, too.

   best regards from Berkeley, California
     -Brian

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