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The string in uninstallation: "Are you sure you want to uninstall this product?"


This string is always in English. Is it possible to translate it to other languages? I can't find it in the language file WixUI_en-us.wxl. Or it may be provided by MSI service?

Thanks.
/Brian



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Is that the string you see when you click "Uninstall" from "Programs and
Features" (or ARP)? That comes from the shell, and is in the user's
language.

Is it the string you see when you run msiexec /x <ProductCode> or msiexec /x
<package-path.msi>? That also comes in the user shell's language (it comes
from Windows Installer itself), and it is shown even before any data about
the product/package is read (the MSI file isn't even accessed yet).

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Subject: [WiX-users] The untranslated string in uninstallation

The string in uninstallation: "Are you sure you want to uninstall this
product?"


This string is always in English. Is it possible to translate it to other
languages? I can't find it in the language file WixUI_en-us.wxl. Or it may
be provided by MSI service?

Thanks.
/Brian



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Thanks Blair!


Yes, that string shows when I click "Remove" from ARP. You said "that come from the shell", what do you mean shell?

You also said, "..is in the user's language", do you mean it is in the .wxl file? Then what is the string ID for it? I doesn't seem to find it.

Thanks



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From: Blair <[hidden email]>
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. <[hidden email]>
Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 9:47:25 PM
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] The untranslated string in uninstallation

Is that the string you see when you click "Uninstall" from "Programs and
Features" (or ARP)? That comes from the shell, and is in the user's
language.

Is it the string you see when you run msiexec /x <ProductCode> or msiexec /x
<package-path.msi>? That also comes in the user shell's language (it comes
from Windows Installer itself), and it is shown even before any data about
the product/package is read (the MSI file isn't even accessed yet).

-----Original Message-----
From: little.forest [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 5:30 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: [WiX-users] The untranslated string in uninstallation

The string in uninstallation: "Are you sure you want to uninstall this
product?"


This string is always in English. Is it possible to translate it to other
languages? I can't find it in the language file WixUI_en-us.wxl. Or it may
be provided by MSI service?

Thanks.
/Brian



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Shell in Windows = explorer.exe and/or something it owns/uses intimately (in
this case, used to be the control panel applet. I don't know exactly which
.dll the string would be in, but it is still Windows).

User's language = the language that the user's shell is setup to use. In
some SKUs of Windows you can add languages and can set each login to use a
different language.

This page explains some of that:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd374098(VS.85).aspx

-----Original Message-----
From: little.forest [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 11:16 AM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] The untranslated string in uninstallation

Thanks Blair!


Yes, that string shows when I click "Remove" from ARP. You said "that come
from the shell", what do you mean shell?

You also said, "..is in the user's language", do you mean it is in the .wxl
file? Then what is the string ID for it? I doesn't seem to find it.

Thanks



________________________________
From: Blair <[hidden email]>
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
<[hidden email]>
Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 9:47:25 PM
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] The untranslated string in uninstallation

Is that the string you see when you click "Uninstall" from "Programs and
Features" (or ARP)? That comes from the shell, and is in the user's
language.

Is it the string you see when you run msiexec /x <ProductCode> or msiexec /x
<package-path.msi>? That also comes in the user shell's language (it comes
from Windows Installer itself), and it is shown even before any data about
the product/package is read (the MSI file isn't even accessed yet).

-----Original Message-----
From: little.forest [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 5:30 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: [WiX-users] The untranslated string in uninstallation

The string in uninstallation: "Are you sure you want to uninstall this
product?"


This string is always in English. Is it possible to translate it to other
languages? I can't find it in the language file WixUI_en-us.wxl. Or it may
be provided by MSI service?

Thanks.
/Brian



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Hi Blair,


Thanks for the info.

Now I understand the string "Are you sure you want to uninstall this product?" is from shell. Does it mean we can't customize this string, correct?


Thanks
/Brian



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From: Blair <[hidden email]>
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. <[hidden email]>
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 12:33:36 PM
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] The untranslated string in uninstallation

Shell in Windows = explorer.exe and/or something it owns/uses intimately (in
this case, used to be the control panel applet. I don't know exactly which
.dll the string would be in, but it is still Windows).

User's language = the language that the user's shell is setup to use. In
some SKUs of Windows you can add languages and can set each login to use a
different language.

This page explains some of that:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd374098(VS.85).aspx

-----Original Message-----
From: little.forest [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 11:16 AM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] The untranslated string in uninstallation

Thanks Blair!


Yes, that string shows when I click "Remove" from ARP. You said "that come
from the shell", what do you mean shell?

You also said, "..is in the user's language", do you mean it is in the .wxl
file? Then what is the string ID for it? I doesn't seem to find it.

Thanks



________________________________
From: Blair <[hidden email]>
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
<[hidden email]>
Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 9:47:25 PM
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] The untranslated string in uninstallation

Is that the string you see when you click "Uninstall" from "Programs and
Features" (or ARP)? That comes from the shell, and is in the user's
language.

Is it the string you see when you run msiexec /x <ProductCode> or msiexec /x
<package-path.msi>? That also comes in the user shell's language (it comes
from Windows Installer itself), and it is shown even before any data about
the product/package is read (the MSI file isn't even accessed yet).

-----Original Message-----
From: little.forest [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 5:30 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: [WiX-users] The untranslated string in uninstallation

The string in uninstallation: "Are you sure you want to uninstall this
product?"


This string is always in English. Is it possible to translate it to other
languages? I can't find it in the language file WixUI_en-us.wxl. Or it may
be provided by MSI service?

Thanks.
/Brian



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Right. It can't be customized. The most you can do is change the user's
language (including logout-login) assuming the user's new chosen language is
installed in the OS.

We always operated under the assumption that understand the language of the
Windows installation they have, so messages from the OS (like this one)
would always be understood. Of course kiosk-type applications that won't be
applicable, but Joe Public doesn't generally have permission to
install/remove from kiosk terminals.

-----Original Message-----
From: little.forest [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 2:35 PM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] The untranslated string in uninstallation

Hi Blair,


Thanks for the info.

Now I understand the string "Are you sure you want to uninstall this
product?" is from shell. Does it mean we can't customize this string,
correct?


Thanks
/Brian



________________________________
From: Blair <[hidden email]>
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
<[hidden email]>
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 12:33:36 PM
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] The untranslated string in uninstallation

Shell in Windows = explorer.exe and/or something it owns/uses intimately (in
this case, used to be the control panel applet. I don't know exactly which
.dll the string would be in, but it is still Windows).

User's language = the language that the user's shell is setup to use. In
some SKUs of Windows you can add languages and can set each login to use a
different language.

This page explains some of that:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd374098(VS.85).aspx

-----Original Message-----
From: little.forest [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 11:16 AM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] The untranslated string in uninstallation

Thanks Blair!


Yes, that string shows when I click "Remove" from ARP. You said "that come
from the shell", what do you mean shell?

You also said, "..is in the user's language", do you mean it is in the .wxl
file? Then what is the string ID for it? I doesn't seem to find it.

Thanks



________________________________
From: Blair <[hidden email]>
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
<[hidden email]>
Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 9:47:25 PM
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] The untranslated string in uninstallation

Is that the string you see when you click "Uninstall" from "Programs and
Features" (or ARP)? That comes from the shell, and is in the user's
language.

Is it the string you see when you run msiexec /x <ProductCode> or msiexec /x
<package-path.msi>? That also comes in the user shell's language (it comes
from Windows Installer itself), and it is shown even before any data about
the product/package is read (the MSI file isn't even accessed yet).

-----Original Message-----
From: little.forest [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 5:30 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: [WiX-users] The untranslated string in uninstallation

The string in uninstallation: "Are you sure you want to uninstall this
product?"


This string is always in English. Is it possible to translate it to other
languages? I can't find it in the language file WixUI_en-us.wxl. Or it may
be provided by MSI service?

Thanks.
/Brian



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Got it. Thanks Blair.




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Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 3:12:22 PM
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] The untranslated string in uninstallation

Right. It can't be customized. The most you can do is change the user's
language (including logout-login) assuming the user's new chosen language is
installed in the OS.

We always operated under the assumption that understand the language of the
Windows installation they have, so messages from the OS (like this one)
would always be understood. Of course kiosk-type applications that won't be
applicable, but Joe Public doesn't generally have permission to
install/remove from kiosk terminals.

-----Original Message-----
From: little.forest [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 2:35 PM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] The untranslated string in uninstallation

Hi Blair,


Thanks for the info.

Now I understand the string "Are you sure you want to uninstall this
product?" is from shell. Does it mean we can't customize this string,
correct?


Thanks
/Brian



________________________________
From: Blair <[hidden email]>
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
<[hidden email]>
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 12:33:36 PM
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] The untranslated string in uninstallation

Shell in Windows = explorer.exe and/or something it owns/uses intimately (in
this case, used to be the control panel applet. I don't know exactly which
.dll the string would be in, but it is still Windows).

User's language = the language that the user's shell is setup to use. In
some SKUs of Windows you can add languages and can set each login to use a
different language.

This page explains some of that:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd374098(VS.85).aspx

-----Original Message-----
From: little.forest [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 11:16 AM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] The untranslated string in uninstallation

Thanks Blair!


Yes, that string shows when I click "Remove" from ARP. You said "that come
from the shell", what do you mean shell?

You also said, "..is in the user's language", do you mean it is in the .wxl
file? Then what is the string ID for it? I doesn't seem to find it.

Thanks



________________________________
From: Blair <[hidden email]>
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
<[hidden email]>
Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 9:47:25 PM
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] The untranslated string in uninstallation

Is that the string you see when you click "Uninstall" from "Programs and
Features" (or ARP)? That comes from the shell, and is in the user's
language.

Is it the string you see when you run msiexec /x <ProductCode> or msiexec /x
<package-path.msi>? That also comes in the user shell's language (it comes
from Windows Installer itself), and it is shown even before any data about
the product/package is read (the MSI file isn't even accessed yet).

-----Original Message-----
From: little.forest [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 5:30 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: [WiX-users] The untranslated string in uninstallation

The string in uninstallation: "Are you sure you want to uninstall this
product?"


This string is always in English. Is it possible to translate it to other
languages? I can't find it in the language file WixUI_en-us.wxl. Or it may
be provided by MSI service?

Thanks.
/Brian



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Where do you get the Microsoft Bootstrappers?

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I have looked high and low, I cannot seem to locate what I need to install to get the bootstrapper files.  That would be the files that is present in C:\Program Files\Microsoft SDKs\Windows\v6.0A\Bootstrapper.

Anyone know what I need to download?  I have VS2008 SP1 installed, I have tried the platformSDK, I am at a loss as to what I am missing.

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Re: Where do you get the Microsoft Bootstrappers?

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OK, I figured path of this out...

My environment is different because I am 64bit, the actual path to the files is

C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft SDKs\Windows\v6.0A\Bootstrapper

The problem I am faced with now is how do I (inside the WixProj) configure this to work with either 64bit or 32bit?  I do not find a registry setting that matches the location of the 64bit bootstrapper for 6.0a;  I went ahead and installed 7.0 (the Windows 7 SDK), and the registry key is correct in that case.  

Are there any issues to using the Windows 7 SDK bootstrapper files on Vista, XP, and Server 2003/2008?

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I have looked high and low, I cannot seem to locate what I need to install to get the bootstrapper files.  That would be the files that is present in C:\Program Files\Microsoft SDKs\Windows\v6.0A\Bootstrapper.

Anyone know what I need to download?  I have VS2008 SP1 installed, I have tried the platformSDK, I am at a loss as to what I am missing.

Thanks,
John

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Re: Where do you get the Microsoft Bootstrappers? - Solved

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OK, I finally figured this out (I am open to other suggestions).  After installing with Windows7 Platform SDK on my desktop (64bit Windows7), and our build servers I discovered that for whatever reason the 32bit platform SDK does not include the bootstrappers like the 64bit version does.

However, the same boot strappers are present after installing visual studio 2008/SP1 in the directory mentioned by some many blogs and messages.  The BootStrappers were not present on my 64bit Windows 7 machine until after I installed the Windows 7 SDK (x64 version).

I edited my wixproj files, which I think the VS2008 integration should help with, I understand Burn is on the way.. however, why doesn't Wix Set the ToolsVersion to 3.5 by default?  I digress... The following is what I ended up with after several hours of hacking through this (It is unfortunate that the reference material is not clearer for those of us who do not know much about MSI installs and such).

In my case, what is below works on both x86 and x64 machines of a variety of operating systems (Windows7, Vista, and Windows2003).  Hopefully this will save some others some time later.

  <PropertyGroup>
    <SDK70>$(registry:HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Microsoft SDKs\Windows\v7.0\@InstallationFolder)</SDK70>    
    <SDK70A>$(registry:HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Microsoft SDKs\Windows\v7.0A\@InstallationFolder)</SDK70A>

    <SDKPath>$(SDK70A)</SDKPath>
    <SDKPath Condition=" '$(SDKPath)' == ''">C:\Program Files\Microsoft SDKs\Windows\v6.0A\</SDKPath>
  </PropertyGroup>

  <Import Project="$(WixTargetsPath)" />
  <!--
        To modify your build process, add your task inside one of the targets below and uncomment it.
        Other similar extension points exist, see Wix.targets.
        <Target Name="BeforeBuild">
        </Target>
-->
  <Target Name="AfterBuild">
    <Message Text="SDK70= $(SDK70)" />
    <Message Text="SDK70A= $(SDK70A)" />    
    <Message Text="Windows SDKPath= $(SDKPath)" />

    <GenerateBootstrapper ApplicationName="XPertJustice WPF Client" ApplicationFile="$(ApplicationFile)" ApplicationUrl="$(ApplicationUrl)" BootstrapperItems="@(BootstrapperFile)" ComponentsLocation="HomeSite" OutputPath="$(OutputPath)" Culture="en-US" Path="$(SDKPath)Bootstrapper\" />


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Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Where do you get the Microsoft Bootstrappers?

OK, I figured path of this out...

My environment is different because I am 64bit, the actual path to the files is

C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft SDKs\Windows\v6.0A\Bootstrapper

The problem I am faced with now is how do I (inside the WixProj) configure this to work with either 64bit or 32bit?  I do not find a registry setting that matches the location of the 64bit bootstrapper for 6.0a;  I went ahead and installed 7.0 (the Windows 7 SDK), and the registry key is correct in that case.  

Are there any issues to using the Windows 7 SDK bootstrapper files on Vista, XP, and Server 2003/2008?

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From: John H. Bergman (XPedient Technologies) [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 8:46 PM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: [WiX-users] Where do you get the Microsoft Bootstrappers?

I have looked high and low, I cannot seem to locate what I need to install to get the bootstrapper files.  That would be the files that is present in C:\Program Files\Microsoft SDKs\Windows\v6.0A\Bootstrapper.

Anyone know what I need to download?  I have VS2008 SP1 installed, I have tried the platformSDK, I am at a loss as to what I am missing.

Thanks,
John

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ToolsVersion attribute

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I had had to hunt down how to correct the 'No HomeSite attribute has been provided' errors when creating a bootstrapper.

(the solution was to add ToolsVersion="3.5" to the project definition line so you end up with a line like this in the WixProj:

<Project DefaultTargets="Build" xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/developer/msbuild/2003" ToolsVersion="3.5">

I am curious why WiX does not add this attribute by default?

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> I am curious why WiX does not add this attribute by default?
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WiX doesn't require MSBuild 3.5.

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Hmm, ok.  Only the bootstrapers do then I suppose.  

Are there plans to update Votive to include the attribute based on whether a boot strapper is going to be used?

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> I am curious why WiX does not add this attribute by default?
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John H. Bergman (XPedient Technologies) wrote:
> Hmm, ok.  Only the bootstrapers do then I suppose.  
>
> Are there plans to update Votive to include the attribute based on whether a boot strapper is going to be used?
>  

No, there are no such plans. Feel free to file a feature request,
though, and of course, feel free to contribute such a feature yourself.
If Votive were to support bootstrappers, it would probably be for the
WiX chainer Burn instead.

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