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For quite some time now, the Republican party has been told that it must be more "moderate". (Code for more like the DNC). And over the space of several years now the RNC leadership has infact been more moderate. And what is the result of this "moderation". The result is, the party has now been kicked out of control of the Congress, and the Whitehouse.

For the RNC to start winning some elections again, for the  RNC to begin to get its message to resonate with the people again, we must return to the fundamentals of the party. We must stop with this "moderate" nonesense and get back to being the true conservative party.

Otherwise the American people see no difference between us, and the DNC. This inability to see a difference between the RNC and the DNC. Thanks to such things as the "gang of 14" and our party leadership for so long now,going right along with everything the DNC says it wants. Is one of the chief reasons why Barack Obama was able to run such a successful campaign.

I hope the party will listen to those who have been and now are sounding this warning about being "moderates" because if it does not, I predict we will see the end of the RNC and the conservative movement in our lifetimes.


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Practice what we preach.
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I don't think you will see the end of conservatism, but you may see the end of the Republican Party, if the mindset doesn't change.  I agree that we must return to the fundamental principles that made this nation great.  Keeping the Republic is difficult enough, but sustaining it is even more difficult, because that means forever being vigilant of the vision of our founders, bringing our Republic ever closer to perfection.

Cosmetic changes won't do, as the kind of change the Democrats want to make.  It isn't a thing of my way is better than your way, but it is a considerate and necessary concept that we work toward consensus, as is the hallmark of our representative Republic.  But, and this is a BIG but, this change must not take place at the expense of our sound, rock-solid principles that are the heart and the soul of our party, and hence, of our Republic.  And if we have espoused ideas and concepts that do not keep the Republic, then we have a responsibility to replace them with the principles that will make this nation great once more.

Reading the Preamble to the "Constitution", I see only seven purposes that our representative Republic exists.  Reading the "Declaration of Independence", I see the only reasons that any government should exist and be righteous in its existence.  These are what must come before our eyes in our service to the citizens of this nation.  These are not cosmetic changes; these represent fundamental shifts in the mindset of the party and the nation.  But if we are to keep the Republic, as Benjamin Franklin chellenges us to do, then we need to put aside our pride, and work for the good of all.
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The Republican party needs conservative leaders who will not compromise our constitution.  Why is it that we no longer recognize what our government is supposed to be and do?  These past two years of Pelosi and Reid and Hillary Clinton and Obama have been mind-boggling.  The agenda and the decisions of just these four are unfathomable---incomprehensible!   I expect Obama to trash our constitution. The fact that Republicans get caught up with this enlightenment is not a good thing.  It all seems to be a part of what I consider to be "elite-ism".  The big windy city of Chicago should remember that the power plants are in downstate Illinois.  I kept hoping Palin could make an impression on McCain.  He was not our candidate.
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Rh this is the problem:  The media is in control of the liberal movement.  Now, how do we defeat it?

The following is from a grassroots politician.  To be honest, I've been in contact with him a few times and I still don't know what party he belongs to.  That's not a bad thing.  This next part of the post comes directly from a post he put up on another thread I have linked here that nobody seems to care about.  It's in response to a Daily News article about how Mayor V. has no challengers.  It's a great comeback.  We should lean from this.

From Walter Moore's post. (full context is in my link on the "meet Walter Moore" thread.  after reading the hit piece, read the comments.)  Wally, this is called "hitting the snot" out of the other side.

Thursday Nov 13
Aren't we lucky to have a paper tell us why the only people who should run the City are: i) people who have raised at least $2 million; and ii) people who have made a career of holding one office after another.

The Daily News is right: Villaraigosa, who could not pass the bar exam despite four tries, is more "qualified" than I am, because he has never actually held a real job in the private sector, and has instead been bankrolled into one public office after another.

By contrast, my only qualification is that I graduated with honors from Princeton University with a degree in Public and International Affairs.

Oh, and I have a law degree and license to practice law, having graduated with honors from Georgetown Law. But who needs a Mayor who can understand the law, after all? We taxpayers love paying for Villaraigosa's lawsuits, like the one over school control, the one going on now over the port, Measure R, the LAX living wage, and, of course, Tennie Pierce.

Oh, there's also the fact that I'm a licensed real estate broker. We don't really need a Mayor who understands the real estate market though, do we? Rather, what this town requires is a Mayor who poses to have his picture taken by urinals. That is a skill one can learn only by holding one public office after another. Those of us who work in the real world naively believe that a Mayor should actually show up for work, instead.

As for desperately wanting to be Mayor, what I desperately want is to save this city, that sinks further every day -- largely because the faux reporters at this paper re-print the press releases of career politicians and call it "news." If instead they actually got out investigated and reported, the press release journalists of the Daily News might find out that we have other "unqualified" people trying to save this city, like my candidate for City Attorney, David Berger, an experienced gang prosecutor who wants to clean up this city.

Can the out-of-state special interests write bigger checks to Villaraigosa than the hard-working, tax-paying citizens who contribute their hard-earned money to my campaign? Absolutely. Does that make him the better man for the job? Absolutely not.

Perhaps if the Daily News -- including the anonymous author of this hit piece -- understood that, the paper's circulation would be growing instead of shrinking.
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John- Good piece! this is the kind of practical argument that we so desperate need. It's not "mean" and goes straight to the point. And it's witty to boot.    
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Yes Don.  I get a kick at watching Walter Moore defend himself against the attacks he's facing.  The thing I really like about Walter Moore is that if you send him an email, he'll get back to you.  Not some staff and not some prescripted "thanks for contacting me.  Due to the high volume of emails, I can't promise that I will be able to reply to all of them...bLAH BLAH BLAh."  And, it's not that he doesn't have emails pouring in, it's that he really cares about serving the community.
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Do you really hold Speaker Nancy Pelosi, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, Senator Hillary Clinton, and President-elect Obama responsible for the mistakes that we, as a party, have made?  Do you really hold Senator John McCain responsible for what we ourselves don't choose to do?  We need a party that will choose to keep the Republic.  We don't need to blame anyone, we just need to do it.  We can't expect the Democrats to know how to do it, but we can expect ourselves, who do educate ourselves in how to keep the universal principles of the representative Republic strong and vibrant.

Enough blaming and picking fights that no one can ever win, opinion against opinion.  What ever happened to the art of debate?  What ever happened to a rational, practical debate on the issues that we face today?  Whatever happened to debate based upon the rock-solid principles of our representative Republic?  Isn't it about time we got over blaming each other and, together, arrive at logical, workable solutions that work for all time?  Principled solutions that don't contradict the sound principles upon which this Republic was founded?  

Are we going to cower in fear every time someone attacks our stand for God in government?  I didn't say religion; I said God, and there's a world of difference between the two.  Our founders never repudiated the idea and concept of God participating in our government.  In fact, they invited God into the government in many speeches and writings.  However, they did repudiate the idea that religion should be an influence in our government.  And there is much written to show their stands for each of these concepts.  Our government isn't to be godless; it's supposed to be godly.  No religion is to dictate the laws of government though, and this is the problem.  Since God is an all-inclusive God, why do we have to tell people that what our opinion of God is everybody's should be.

Let's get over it!  FLASH:  "....all men are created equal and are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness...."  This is absolute, undiluted Truth from the ascended masters, but to accept it, we must let go of our religious convictions that there is only one true religion.  There is only one way to worship God, I agree, and that is in spirit and in truth.  And I have seen Christians, Hebrews, Moslems, Buddhists, Hindus, Confusians, the followers of the Tao, and Zoroastrians who are every bit as close to God and serving him, one another, and all of mankind faithfully.  "By their fruits you shall know them" is the fiat to overcoming this type of judgment.  

This is, I know, a huge stopping point against energizing a united effort to live our national motto:  "In God we trust."  But, if we really trust God, then we had better agree with all of the word he speaks to us and not just pick and choose the parts we like and throw away the rest.  Don't look at the flesh.  Why do we want to do that.  The flesh always falls short, so get over it.  Let's begin to look at a man's heart before we judge him righteous or unrighteous.  And when you look at his heart, you should see a Christed one, not a sinner.  Look to his Holy Christ Self as Jesus teaches, not at the flesh.  Listen to his I AM Presence, as Jesus teaches, not at his flesh.  

The ascended master Jesus, the Christ, teaches much about his I AM Presence, and since he was a Christed one before his ministry in Galilee, Samaria, and Judah, having balanced 99% of his karma, he rightly called himself the Christ.  But he learned this from someone somewhere.  He learned much from his mother, but he didn't learn everything about his Higher Self until he journeyed to the areas of Tibet, Northern India, and Western India.  Here, in the years between his twelfth and twenty-ninth birthdays, he learned how to allow his Christed Self to win his entire being, and how to allow his I AM Presence to speak and act through him.  This is where he learned to do miracles, signs, and wonders that would later be a fulfillment of the prophecies spoken in Israel and Judah.  Then he teaches us to do the same.  When he speaks the wonderful words "I AM the way, the truth, and the life....", was he bragging?  No!  No!  No!  A thousand times , No!  This was his I AM Presence speaking within him.  And he teaches us to practice the same.  

Don't hide behind a title, and think that's all there is to it.  Don't set Jesus on a pedistal so high that we can't follow him.  Jesus never did, nor did any other of the ascended masters, of whom there are many from all areas of the world, as well as from all races of mankind on the face of the earth.  And why shouldn't there be, seeing that God is no respecter of personalities, and that he has made of one flesh all mankind.  Learn this lesson, and we will never need to fight another war, as our enemy, our adversary, would like us to do.  For it is he, and he alone who comes to steal, to kill, and to destroy the life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness of the children of light who live upon the face of the earth.

Hence, after all of this, we understand a little of the FIRST principle on which our Republic was founded, and the FIRST principle that allows us to maintain it.  God bless you!  And so it is!  David H. Coffey
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I don't think that the democrats think that all men are created equal.  They want to pick and chose who gets their favors and most of the favors have to do with buying votes and winning the next election and not at all least - taking care of the people who are stupid enough to give them lots of money.  I think the decisions that have been made by the four people I mentioned are reprehensible.  They are people abusing the power that hat been given them to hold offices in our government.  Am I blaming them?  I sure would like to find a way to hold them accountable for the disastrous things they have done.  For example, take a look at the way Nancy Pelosi has treated the President of one of our only allies in South America, President Uribe of Columbia.  I predict that the US will pay for her petty political games.  These people have made monstrous mistakes that hurt our country.  Don't preach to me whoever you are.  Preach to the idots currently in power who care not for our laws, constitution, or the taxpaying citizens of this country who put them in office.
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Do you really hold Speaker Nancy Pelosi, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, Senator Hillary Clinton, and President-elect Obama responsible for the mistakes that we, as a party, have made?  Do you really hold Senator John McCain responsible for what we ourselves don't choose to do?  We need a party that will choose to keep the Republic.  We don't need to blame anyone, we just need to do it.  We can't expect the Democrats to know how to do it, but we can expect ourselves, who do educate ourselves in how to keep the universal principles of the representative Republic strong and vibrant.

Enough blaming and picking fights that no one can ever win, opinion against opinion.  What ever happened to the art of debate?  What ever happened to a rational, practical debate on the issues that we face today?  Whatever happened to debate based upon the rock-solid principles of our representative Republic?  Isn't it about time we got over blaming each other and, together, arrive at logical, workable solutions that work for all time?  Principled solutions that don't contradict the sound principles upon which this Republic was founded?  

Are we going to cower in fear every time someone attacks our stand for God in government?  I didn't say religion; I said God, and there's a world of difference between the two.  Our founders never repudiated the idea and concept of God participating in our government.  In fact, they invited God into the government in many speeches and writings.  However, they did repudiate the idea that religion should be an influence in our government.  And there is much written to show their stands for each of these concepts.  Our government isn't to be godless; it's supposed to be godly.  No religion is to dictate the laws of government though, and this is the problem.  Since God is an all-inclusive God, why do we have to tell people that what our opinion of God is everybody's should be.

Let's get over it!  FLASH:  "....all men are created equal and are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness...."  This is absolute, undiluted Truth from the ascended masters, but to accept it, we must let go of our religious convictions that there is only one true religion.  There is only one way to worship God, I agree, and that is in spirit and in truth.  And I have seen Christians, Hebrews, Moslems, Buddhists, Hindus, Confusians, the followers of the Tao, and Zoroastrians who are every bit as close to God and serving him, one another, and all of mankind faithfully.  "By their fruits you shall know them" is the fiat to overcoming this type of judgment.  

This is, I know, a huge stopping point against energizing a united effort to live our national motto:  "In God we trust."  But, if we really trust God, then we had better agree with all of the word he speaks to us and not just pick and choose the parts we like and throw away the rest.  Don't look at the flesh.  Why do we want to do that.  The flesh always falls short, so get over it.  Let's begin to look at a man's heart before we judge him righteous or unrighteous.  And when you look at his heart, you should see a Christed one, not a sinner.  Look to his Holy Christ Self as Jesus teaches, not at the flesh.  Listen to his I AM Presence, as Jesus teaches, not at his flesh.  

The ascended master Jesus, the Christ, teaches much about his I AM Presence, and since he was a Christed one before his ministry in Galilee, Samaria, and Judah, having balanced 99% of his karma, he rightly called himself the Christ.  But he learned this from someone somewhere.  He learned much from his mother, but he didn't learn everything about his Higher Self until he journeyed to the areas of Tibet, Northern India, and Western India.  Here, in the years between his twelfth and twenty-ninth birthdays, he learned how to allow his Christed Self to win his entire being, and how to allow his I AM Presence to speak and act through him.  This is where he learned to do miracles, signs, and wonders that would later be a fulfillment of the prophecies spoken in Israel and Judah.  Then he teaches us to do the same.  When he speaks the wonderful words "I AM the way, the truth, and the life....", was he bragging?  No!  No!  No!  A thousand times , No!  This was his I AM Presence speaking within him.  And he teaches us to practice the same.  

Don't hide behind a title, and think that's all there is to it.  Don't set Jesus on a pedistal so high that we can't follow him.  Jesus never did, nor did any other of the ascended masters, of whom there are many from all areas of the world, as well as from all races of mankind on the face of the earth.  And why shouldn't there be, seeing that God is no respecter of personalities, and that he has made of one flesh all mankind.  Learn this lesson, and we will never need to fight another war, as our enemy, our adversary, would like us to do.  For it is he, and he alone who comes to steal, to kill, and to destroy the life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness of the children of light who live upon the face of the earth.

Hence, after all of this, we understand a little of the FIRST principle on which our Republic was founded, and the FIRST principle that allows us to maintain it.  God bless you!  And so it is!  David H. Coffey