The Luke/Noah/Mason Silliness

[ceeceetee]

How dim are they writing Noah to be? He's a natural when it comes to acting, but the story line that they are tossing his way is so utterly idiotic. C'mon -- can they PLEASE make him somewhat less naive? Crikey, after all he's been through, it's just plain silly that he sits around with that wimpy professor, believing that he's the perfect mentor for a film project. And, I'm sorry folks, but having Luke be the 'fountain of wisdom/knowledge/advice' is just plain crazy. Luke and Noah have so much growing up to do. Mason remains a predator, with little else to stroke his ego than haning out with a bunch of immature film students in a questionable university setting.

[SnyderFan8]

Noah doesn't have a clue, does he?  Incredible.  And as immature as Luke is, he certainly has a right to be jealous, IMO.  ATWT has another snake in its midst: Mason.  What a scrounge he's turned out to be.  I thought Damian was enough of bad stuff around the show, but Mason is a sneaky pest.

Not sure where your comments about Luke's "wisdom/knowledge/etc." are coming from.  Given that he's far from mature, but I don't think Luke is devoid of intelligence or knowledge.  And I don't blame him in the least for sharing his anger/concern with Noah over the intrusive pseudo professor!  I just wish Noah would wake up and smell the stink that is Mason!

[CrochetQueen613]

SnyderFan8 wrote:

Noah doesn't have a clue, does he?  Incredible.  And as immature as Luke is, he certainly has a right to be jealous, IMO.  ATWT has another snake in its midst: Mason.  What a scrounge he's turned out to be.  I thought Damian was enough of bad stuff around the show, but Mason is a sneaky pest.

Not sure where your comments about Luke's "wisdom/knowledge/etc." are coming from.  Given that he's far from mature, but I don't think Luke is devoid of intelligence or knowledge.  And I don't blame him in the least for sharing his anger/concern with Noah over the intrusive pseudo professor!  I just wish Noah would wake up and smell the stink that is Mason!

ITA 100%  Noah, should know way better, and Luke has every right to be upset and jealous. Mason is deffinitely a snake on the same level as Damian.

[OSU21Male]

The stupid thing, as I said on another post, is that Noah was extremely weirded out when Mason made the comment about Noah being cute.  He then accused Mason of trying to set up the car break down in order to get closer with him.  The last scene we saw with the two of them, Noah was telling Mason to stay out of his personal life and keep things professional.  So to have Noah act as if everything is fine and that Mason kissing him on the forehead was completely innocient was just absurd.  Then to have Noah defend Mason's action to Luke was adding insult to injury.  I had high hopes when they introduced Mason that he could be a potential romantic interest for Noah and give Luke time to grow up and Noah explore what it was like to be with another guy.  Now he has been reduced to the typical soap viper, ugh!  The little sparing scene between Mason and Luke was fun to watch but not enough to counter act the deficit this turn of events has caused in the storyline.  If this story does not show some new life, a little sex appeal, or something, I am jumping ship completely.  I have now reduced my ATWT/Nuke time to watching clips on youtube.  The show in its entirety is just not worth my time, hence the reason the ratings have dropped and the show will be canceled.

[Oakdale Confidential]

Folks!
It is clear that Mason needs to go. Luke has values instilled on him through Holden's family and the fact he has had two parents at any given time. His grandmother Emma, I am sure has instilled a sense of conservative value and the knowledge of having a father like Damian who we all know can be a "snake in the grass." Noah has not had that kind of dynamic at all in his life. I believe Noah has the trust issues. Noah needs to grow the hell up and realize that Mason is Winston Mayer in a Gay Suit. Noah in order to survive IMO needs to treat anyone other than Luke as Winston in disguise. This is to Mason, "Jessica or Tess is calling you-Nash!" I also fault Goutman and Passanante for not providing us with examples of PDA so anyone who sees them engaging in such should take the hint and back off! PDA can be a defense mechanism to show others that two people are taken, so interlopers-Move On! Interlopers you are not welcome! If people hate to see such things-TOUGH! If two people are in love and kiss and hold hands with each other in public, I get a warm feeling to know that there are still couples who still love and cherish each other. That is why, when I ever find that person in my life, there will be no telling what we may do in public and to those who disapprove-"Stick it, where the Sun Don't Shine!" Maybe we can have couples finding the true essence of love and devotion again. Give Luke and Noah scenes where they can show their love and if the viewers don't like it-TOUGH! This is a vital part of REAL LIFE! Maybe that is why we are living in a LOVELESS WORLD now! Long Live PDA! That is all! I had a bit of a setback last night and I needed to vent because I do care deeply about the notion of LOVE! Thank You All!

[OSU21Male]

OC,

I think if anyone needs to grow up its Luke.  He has always been rather immature and needs to take Noah for his word that he is not interested in Mason and let that show Mason that he does not have a chance rather than giving him a battle of words which just shows Mason how vulnerable Luke feels his relationship with Noah is.  The writers keep making the characters go back and forth so much in their feelings, from one extreme to the next that they just come off wishy washy.  This is true of Noah barking at Mason to back off then acting like everything is ok to Lilly freaking out over the death of Holden then quickly moving on with Damien and then not knowing who she wants.  Its enough to make one pull out there hair, lol.

I actually welcomed Mason at first, but with them relegating him to the viper status, I am not sure how I feel.  At times its fun to watch but then I just keep thinking we have seen this way too many times before.  The only way it would be interesting is if we saw Mason and Noah in bed together.

Since you brought up the Nash thing on OLTL, I am wondering if Mason will be around very much longer.  Its likely that OLTL might want Forbes back and since he is not on contract with ATWT he is free to head back that way if he so chooses.  

[SnyderFan8]

Chris,

As I said on another thread, it looks like Mason will do something even more stupid than he's done so far, like draw a gun, kidnap Luke, or pull something else even more evil.  Then he will be gone from the scene, so we'll be left with Luke and Noah on still more shakey ground.  Will the writers then really kick up the story and have the boys talk about their dreams and desires, and do some long range planning for their future?  Ideally, that's what should happen IMO.  The chance will be there, my friend, but will TPTB realize what an opportunity they'll have at that moment?

Dave

[jbsoapfan]

I like Mason in the mix.

 I think he IS realistic from the standpoint that there are plenty of people out there who go after what they want despite whether or not that person is in a relationship.  I've certainly known plenty of girls who basically figured if a guy isn't married, he's up for grabs....even if he is engaged.  The thought process, apparently, is that if he is truly in love and happy he won't bite...but if he strays, then that other relationship wasn't meant to be.

Mason going aggressive offensive can be fun for us, I hope.  I think he is nice looking...and I kind of like the way he is yanking Luke's chain.  Luke can be SUCH a whiner for God's sake...I'm pretty sick of Luke at this point.  And, honestly, a little hot action is definitely needed in this show/story.

So...I'd be totally up for a little Mason/Noah action....BRING IT ON!!!

[SnyderFan8]

I part company with you on this one, JB.  Offensive/aggressive just isn't in me or in the characters I love.  The sooner Mason is history, the better!  Luke is definitely immature, but a whiner?  I don't see him that way.  He has every reason to be jealous.  But when the triangle is on only once in a week or two, how can we really engage ourselves in their story, no matter how we feel about the "intrusion" by Mason?  Mason needs to take his scarf, sour look, and unkempt hair and apply at another university!   LOL

Doesn't look like they will be on tomorrow either!

[OSU21Male]

I have to agree with JB on this one.  The storyline needs some hot action whether it be between Noah and Luke or Noah and Mason there needs to be at least one passion filled sex scene.  I think its possible that Mason may get his man for a short time but I don't think it will last long.  My guess is that Luke's jealousy combined with Mason's persistence will drive Noah into Mason's bed.

[OSU21Male]

You could be right about Mason doing something sinister like kidnapping one of the guys.  I really hope they don't go that route as we have already had enough kidnappings in the last few months to last a decade.  If they are, let it be Noah and have Mason do the caress him thing a little before Luke takes him out, lol.

[ceeceetee]

Oh, Crikey, NOT another kidnapping! By now, every character in Oakdale ought to be looking over his/her shoulder, wondering whether they might be the next one getting hauled off, tied up and held hostage! I'm afraid I'm quite tired of Mason and this will he/won't he make a full out attempt at seducing Noah...this potential triangle is getting really old. How come everyone else in town is tumbling into bed after one or two flirtatious scenes? I'm yawning at this point - make the dang play, Mason, or just go find someone else to seduce, will you????

[SnyderFan8]

Chris, I'm all for some good hot action love scene; preferably between Luke and Noah.  If the spoilers are correct, Noah is going to meet up with an accident.  I don't think this will result in Mason and Noah ending up in bed.  I believe this will bring Luke and Noah closer together, setting the stage for the much needed passionate love scene as Noah recovers.

Dave

[CrochetQueen613]

Hopefully the accident will bring the boys together, but I think that unfortunately it may have the opposite effect and push them apart.

[jbsoapfan]

I agree with you that the on and off momentum of the story makes it less engaging.  As for Luke's whining...I didn't mean it to refer to his current whining about Mason....I meant it globally (he is a 'woe is me' kind of guy for the past couple of years).

I don't think Mason looks greasy either...although I would prefer a somewhat shorter haircut...maybe more like Paul or something.  He's got a cute face and I like his smile when he reveals it.  I think he has dimples...love that.

I am NOT surprised that you do not like aggressive my friend (LOL)...as I am sure you are not surprised that I do.  Luke's constant insecurities would drive me crazy...I'd lose respect for him over time because he lacks real confidence IMO. 

Anyhow...this Mason story could have been a good thing for the boys, but it is lackluster.


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Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 8:13 PM

I part company with you on this one, JB.  Offensive/aggressive just isn't in me or in the characters I love.  The sooner Mason is history, the better!  Luke is definitely immature, but a whiner?  I don't see him that way.  He has every reason to be jealous.  But when the triangle is on only once in a week or two, how can we really engage ourselves in their story, no matter how we feel about the "intrusion" by Mason?  Mason needs to take his scarf, sour look, and unkempt hair and apply at another university!   LOL

Doesn't look like they will be on tomorrow either!

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[OSU21Male]

Dave,

I hope this is not a way to write out Jake/Noah.  Though, I think if anything, he will have an accident and Mason will come to the rescue, setting the stage for them to get closer.  After that, Luke will  be very jealous and either walk away from Noah or push him away.  I can't see the accident helping to bring these two closer.  Really, with all the stuff that has happened to Noah in the past year alone he should be in a massive amount of therapy.

Chris

[SnyderFan8]

Chris,

I'm not at all surprised by your response.  And I'm not saying you have a negative bent on this s/l, but I remain on a more positive note with respect to Luke/Noah/Mason.

I don't see Mason coming to the rescue, but rather that he will expand his intrusiveness on Noah.  Noah will see through Mason's surface concern and will finally tell Mason to get out of his life.  At the same time, Luke will be there for Noah to help him nurse his wounds and this will bring them closer.  Pollyanna?  Sure, but that's me.   LOL

Noah needing extensive therapy?  Where is this coming from?  I realize you are already in this field and are continuing your studies in this area, but I can't see this at all, with one exception.  However this accident happens, Noah may need some assistance in getting through the trauma of the accident itself.  

And Jake leaving ATWT?  No, I'm sorry, that's not going to happen.  If I'm correct, a few months back you suggested that he would be leaving the show, and Van as well.  This couple, as weak as they are being drawn, is the only couple on the show who exhibit some life and interest for me.  I only wish the writers would really get some romance/sex into their relationship.  But Jake leaving?  Not a chance!

And finally, congratulations on your approach to 1000 posts!  That is a milestone!  Best to you, Chris.

Dave

[CrochetQueen613]

OSU21Male wrote:

I hope this is not a way to write out Jake/Noah.  Though, I think if anything, he will have an accident and Mason will come to the rescue, setting the stage for them to get closer.  After that, Luke will  be very jealous and either walk away from Noah or push him away.  I can't see the accident helping to bring these two closer.  Really, with all the stuff that has happened to Noah in the past year alone he should be in a massive amount of therapy.

Chris,

I agree with you. I hope that they don't use this story to begin the end for Noah. That being said, I think that the boys are going to drift further apart because of the accident and have to work harder to come back together. I think that Luke is going to experience a lot of guilt over his jealousy and anger that he couldn't stop what happens to Noah. I think that because of a choice that he makes, he is going to be somewhat responsible and he is going to feel horrible and along with the guilt will come self-pitty. I think that Mason may try to use Noah's accident as a way to get closer, but that it will be a lost effort and he will choose to leave town which will leave Luke and Noah to try to work things out. I agree that Noah should be in therapy, but I think that Luke should, too. Both of the boys have been through a lot and are continuing to be presented with more obstacles. Havng a counselor would help them to understand who they are, what they want, and to be stronger to continue forward. I think that couples counseling would be good for them, too. At least, it certainly couldn't hurt.

-Laura

[SnyderFan8]

Well, we got a dose of Luke/Noah/Mason today.  The only heat today was the shoving match between Luke and Mason.  Short but effective, but Mason still doesn't get the message.  Now that the university administration has been brought into it, I guess he will.

By the way, did I miss something?  When did Luke (or Damian) report this "harassment" to the university?  Is that just implied?  In any case, it was really another case of immature behavior on Luke's part.  But the idea that Damian was behind getting the university involved in this is very possible.  However, I hardly call a kiss on the forehead in front of others sexual harassment.

Will Noah support this report?  I doubt it, but he will be upset with Luke, if it was he who reported this.  More fireworks are up and coming, according to the spoilers.

[CrochetQueen613]

I think it was implied, or I missed it, too. I think that Luke did it simply because the spoilers I've read said that Luke starts to show his "Damian" side, and like you said this seems like something that he would do. This would also explain why he had a copy of the kiss on DVD. Yes, it seems like it was an immature move, but what else can you expect from Luke? I don't think that a kiss on the forehead in this case was sexual harrassment as I have been kissed on the forehead or cheek by some of my teachers. Not lingering the way that Mason did and not by teachers that had crushes on me or anything wierd like that. I do think, however, that he has been acting inappropriate and this was just icing on the cake. Noah is so blind to it all that I don't expect him to support Luke and as much as I was in favor of Nuke from the start, they are boring me and I think that they are on two different pages. They each need someone that will bring them up and have fun with. The jealousy thing is so old.