The Best API for accessing map/geospatial server

[Frans Thamura-3]

hi all

i just got Java Geotools as an Java API to access the geospatial
server based on WMS (OGC)

any one have experience with this kind of things?

i just want to treat the server as database.

so all geospatial server is database, this API is look like ODBC or JDBC


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[Jody Garnett-2]

> hi all
>
> i just got Java Geotools as an Java API to access the geospatial server based on WMS (OGC)

Correct.

> any one have experience with this kind of things?

Some :-)

> i just want to treat the server as database.

You want the Web Feature Server then.

> so all geospatial server is database, this API is look like ODBC or JDBC

You will find the GeoTools "DataStore" api lets you treat it like a
database; and indeed lets you handle Shapefile / Web Feature Server
and Databases in a similar fashion (with transactions and queries
etc...).

For more information visit our website and try:
http://geotools.org/examples/querylab.html

Changing the connection parameters will allow you to connect to
different things.

Jody
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[Jody Garnett-2]

> so all geospatial server is database, this API is look like ODBC or JDBC

If you were really keen you could write a JDBC "bridge" to the
GeoTools DataStore API; it would be a great contribution (and hurt
everyones brain).

Jody
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[Frans Thamura-3]

>> i just got Java Geotools as an Java API to access the geospatial server based on WMS (OGC)
>
> Correct.
> You will find the GeoTools "DataStore" api lets you treat it like a
> database; and indeed lets you handle Shapefile / Web Feature Server
> and Databases in a similar fashion (with transactions and queries
> etc...).

thx for the reply jody


with this positoning, i feel that because no other than Java Geotools :)

i want to reverse,

which one of those map servers in the world have fully certified by
OGC for WMS implementation, so we know, all our apps that connect to
those geospatial server no need modification

i can change mapguide to mapserver to geoserver and vice versa

any idea all?
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[Frans Thamura-3]

>
> If you were really keen you could write a JDBC "bridge" to the
> GeoTools DataStore API; it would be a great contribution (and hurt
> everyones brain).

still dont get how the SELECT * FROM city will retun city map

map.google.com have a searching feature..

NB: i am still learning to connect those geospatial server using
geotools, still seeking the certification or something that certified
that all those popular server is compliance..

F
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[Jody Garnett-2]

> i want to reverse,
>
> which one of those map servers in the world have fully certified by
> OGC for WMS implementation, so we know, all our apps that connect to
> those geospatial server no need modification

Certification costs money :-)  You also mentioned WMS again - and for
your use case you need Web Feature Server.

GeoServer is certified; MapServer works very well but had not been
certified (perhaps OSGeo can arrange payment to be waived?).

> i can change mapguide to mapserver to geoserver and vice versa
> any idea all?

I have worked well with MapGuide, MapServer and GeoServer (and deegree
which you did not mention). You are encouraged to ask other users for
their experience. I alway have trouble with MapServer WFS; due to
configuration - not due to the application.

Regards,
Jody
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[Brian Russo]

Playing a bit of devil's advocate but (broadly speaking) if you want
your app to be interchangeable with different implementations of
(nontrivial) standards you always need to test interoperability anyway
because even in (unattainable) perfectly bug-free software there is
always some variance due to interpretation of the standard. In other
words, there is usually some ambiguity/grey area in the standards.

Not to knock on certification, but its not a silver bullet. Bottom
line is testing is needed if interoperability is a mission
requirement.

On 10/29/09, Jody Garnett <[hidden email]> wrote:

>> i want to reverse,
>>
>> which one of those map servers in the world have fully certified by
>> OGC for WMS implementation, so we know, all our apps that connect to
>> those geospatial server no need modification
>
> Certification costs money :-)  You also mentioned WMS again - and for
> your use case you need Web Feature Server.
>
> GeoServer is certified; MapServer works very well but had not been
> certified (perhaps OSGeo can arrange payment to be waived?).
>
>> i can change mapguide to mapserver to geoserver and vice versa
>> any idea all?
>
> I have worked well with MapGuide, MapServer and GeoServer (and deegree
> which you did not mention). You are encouraged to ask other users for
> their experience. I alway have trouble with MapServer WFS; due to
> configuration - not due to the application.
>
> Regards,
> Jody
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[Jody Garnett-2]

To help in this you can now obtain the "cite" tests yourself; which
are used to test applications prior to being certified; so at least in
this case you can actually know what certification means.

Jody

On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 1:45 PM, Brian Russo <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Playing a bit of devil's advocate but (broadly speaking) if you want
> your app to be interchangeable with different implementations of
> (nontrivial) standards you always need to test interoperability anyway
> because even in (unattainable) perfectly bug-free software there is
> always some variance due to interpretation of the standard. In other
> words, there is usually some ambiguity/grey area in the standards.
>
> Not to knock on certification, but its not a silver bullet. Bottom
> line is testing is needed if interoperability is a mission
> requirement.
>
> On 10/29/09, Jody Garnett <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>> i want to reverse,
>>>
>>> which one of those map servers in the world have fully certified by
>>> OGC for WMS implementation, so we know, all our apps that connect to
>>> those geospatial server no need modification
>>
>> Certification costs money :-)  You also mentioned WMS again - and for
>> your use case you need Web Feature Server.
>>
>> GeoServer is certified; MapServer works very well but had not been
>> certified (perhaps OSGeo can arrange payment to be waived?).
>>
>>> i can change mapguide to mapserver to geoserver and vice versa
>>> any idea all?
>>
>> I have worked well with MapGuide, MapServer and GeoServer (and deegree
>> which you did not mention). You are encouraged to ask other users for
>> their experience. I alway have trouble with MapServer WFS; due to
>> configuration - not due to the application.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Jody
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[Frans Thamura-3]

> GeoServer is certified; MapServer works very well but had not been
> certified (perhaps OSGeo can arrange payment to be waived?).



map server is the biggest and the most popular geospatial server right now

:)
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[Judit Mays]

Hello Frans,

as Jody mentioned, there is "deegree" as well [1].

deegree WMS is fully certified by OGC, and it is the reference
implementation for WMS 1.1.1 and WMS 1.3.0 [2].

Currently, deegree is in OSGeo incubation, and we are looking forward to
solve the pending issues within the next few weeks.

Kind regards,
Judit Mays

[1] http://deegree.org
[2] http://cite.opengeospatial.org/reference


Frans Thamura schrieb:

>>> i just got Java Geotools as an Java API to access the geospatial server based on WMS (OGC)
>> Correct.
>> You will find the GeoTools "DataStore" api lets you treat it like a
>> database; and indeed lets you handle Shapefile / Web Feature Server
>> and Databases in a similar fashion (with transactions and queries
>> etc...).
>
> thx for the reply jody
>
>
> with this positoning, i feel that because no other than Java Geotools :)
>
> i want to reverse,
>
> which one of those map servers in the world have fully certified by
> OGC for WMS implementation, so we know, all our apps that connect to
> those geospatial server no need modification
>
> i can change mapguide to mapserver to geoserver and vice versa
>
> any idea all?
>

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[Daniel Morissette]

Jody Garnett wrote:
>
> GeoServer is certified; MapServer works very well but had not been
> certified (perhaps OSGeo can arrange payment to be waived?).
>

FYI MapServer passes all certification tests for WMS 1.1.1 and 1.3.0 and
we plan on getting formal certification from OGC after the 5.6 release
(in the coming weeks).

You can find more info about our ongoing certification effort and the
status of each tested spec at:
http://trac.osgeo.org/mapserver/wiki/MapServerOGCCITECompliance

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[Frans Thamura-3]

awesome

now the geospatial s/w moving to ceritication also :0



i am looking about degree, i think it is "degree" from certification, hehe


Frans


On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 8:09 PM, Daniel Morissette
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> Jody Garnett wrote:
>>
>> GeoServer is certified; MapServer works very well but had not been
>> certified (perhaps OSGeo can arrange payment to be waived?).
>>
>
> FYI MapServer passes all certification tests for WMS 1.1.1 and 1.3.0 and we
> plan on getting formal certification from OGC after the 5.6 release (in the
> coming weeks).
>
> You can find more info about our ongoing certification effort and the status
> of each tested spec at:
> http://trac.osgeo.org/mapserver/wiki/MapServerOGCCITECompliance
>
> Daniel
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[Judit Mays]

Hello Frans,

even though it is an uncommon way to spell it, the software really is
called "deegree", with two double-ee.

Some more details from the OSGeo SVN:
https://svn.osgeo.org/osgeo/marketing/flyer/project_brochure_pdfs/OSGeo_Brochures_deegree.pdf

Hope you will enjoy the software!
Kind regards,

Judit


Frans Thamura schrieb:

> awesome
>
> now the geospatial s/w moving to ceritication also :0
>
>
>
> i am looking about degree, i think it is "degree" from certification, hehe
>
>
> Frans
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>
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