TRC hourly or eval?

[cj]

can anyone tell me if a trc is paid eval or actual hours?

[macattack33]

CJ
If you were just hired as a TRC, you can expect to be paid actual hours worked for the first 5 pay-periods (10 weeks) that you are on the job.  After your 10 weeks, you can expect to be paid what-ever the route is evaluated at.  If the route's evaluation is 8.5 hours and you work 10, you still get paid for 8.5.  It goes the same the other way around; if you only work 7, you still get paid 8.5.

There are only 2 ways that you will be paid actual time ever again after your first 10 weeks.  First would be to "actually" work over 40 hours.  They then have to pay you overtime.  The other way would be only if you have never done the route, or have not been on it for the last 12 months.  For this, you would be paid "actual" time for only one day.

A TRC is EXACTALLY like a RCA as far as the job goes.  TRC's are just paid much less, cannot be listed more than once on the Matrix, cannot bid on open routes and cannot belong to the union.

Hope that this helps!
Mac

[CJ]

MAC,
thank you!!! I am new. I have gotten 4 pay checks and they have been paying me the eval for each day I worked....I thought there was a training period where I got paid actual but could not find it.  Do you know where I should look for that info? I left a message at District office requesting clarification and have  copies of my actual hours on the time sheet. I will talk to my pm next week. Thanks for your input.
CJ

[macattack33]

You need to talk to your PM about this issue!

At every case, you will find a "black book" (in the slot next to the drawer).  Pull it out and go to the PO603 book.  (I have been with the PO for over 3 years and just found out about this book!).  When you open it up, go to:

Article 9.2.M Training Pay
Newly appointed RCAs will be paid the higher of the actual hours worked per week or the evaluation of the route(s) for the week (up to 40 hours) for the first 5 pay periods of employment. An RCA utilized on a route he/she has not served in the past 12 months will be paid the greater of the actual hours worked or the evaluation of the route (up to 40 hours).

Reference this when you talk to your PM.  Let them know that you have knowledge!!!  I'm so glad that you found this site.  Being a TRC or RCA can be extremly overwhelming.  I know that when I started, I wanted to scream!  I swear, it is the only job that I have ever had (I have had many!) that management will use your ignorance against you!  If you are unsure about ANYTHING, ask other carriers, or come ask us on this site!  You will find an answer!

One bit of advice that I have for you.  Get a calendar; write each and every minute/route/mileage that you work!  If you need help with figuring out military time, let me know!

Good luck, and welcome to Rural Info...so glad that you came!!
Mac

[Wave]

I don't think the same rules apply for a TRC in this area since you are a non-craft employee.
I believe you just get the training days that your route allows, and then it's all evaluated after that.
RCA's get 5 pay periods at actual time, and then just the evaluated hours.

[macattack33]

I am pretty positive that this rule applys to TRC's as well.  I will see if I can find more info.  

[Wave]

This is from the Analysis of Changes:

It says, "Does this provision apply to newly hired TRC's?  Answer: No."

no+trc.pdf

[CJ]

Thanks Mac,
your advise is so appreciated. And you are right it is overwhelming at times. I will meet with pm tomorrow to discuss this matter, and hope they get it right.
This is one place where "ignorance is bliss" does not apply!!!!! Thanks , CJ

[CJ]

Hey Mac,
I talked to my pm. I handed her the time sheets for actual hours worked, my pay stubs, and the sections of the contract that address TRC training pay and compensation. She is looking into it. She said that our po submitted the actual hours worked and said something about the tax people would have to be contacted to make it right. She said that since I am auxillary assistant I should be paid actual hours worked. I will get with the pm again on Monday for follow up. Now that I have been on the route for several pay periods, I work pretty close to the evaluated time anyway........but not for the first 4 pay periods.
Thanks again for your help. This website and the people on here are so helpful. Being so new I feel like I am on a deserted island with only my scanner and llv keys as companions!!!!!!!! Thanks,
CJ

[macattack33]

CJ...I'm glad that you were able to follow up on this and that you had the tools to do so!  I really hope that everything works out for you!

This site IS aswesome...PT deserves an award for coming up and maintaining this site!  
Glad that we could all be there for you!

Mac

[GBRNU]

I think you need to check the link Wave provided.
RCA's DO get actual hours. TRC's DO NOT.  
The contract specifically says RCAs, and the Q & A in the link Wave gave says NO when asked if the same applied to TRCs.  Sorry.

[Wave]

The info is in this document from the NRLCA's Analysis of Changes to the 2006-2010 Contract
Click here and read this.  TRC's aren't craft employees!

[macattack33]

I'm sorry if my information was incorrect.  I could have sworn that the wording in one of our national magazines stated that this applied to all new employees.  Not just RCA's.  All I can say is that if this is correct, we need to add this to the list of unbelieveable things that our union has done!  TRC's do EXACTALLY the same job as RCA's...I don't understand why they would be expected to do their job faster out of the gate than your average RCA!!!!

[GBRNU]

Yeah, I agree the TRC does the same job as the RCA.
 Just another one of those "it just ain't right!" issues we've been dealt over the years.

[CJ]

Hey Mac,
and everyone out there, thanks for your input. I met with pm and she said after 5 pay periods  at actual, I get eval hours only. which is fine.
She wants me to learn a couple more routes. Which is good, since all 5 routes went down in eval. The liklihood is I will then only get two sat. per month on the aux route. So more routes learned means more chance to make money. Or I apply at other po for rca positions. Did well on the test so options are there if I choose to go elsewhere. Like I tell my friends, I am a TRC which means i am so far down the totem pole my feet are buried in dirt. But I have to start somewhere!

I learn so much every day when I sit down and read all of your comments and concerns. This site is awesome.

Have a safe week out there.
CJ

[CJ]

Hey Mac, here's the TRC update from my pm.   TRC gets 1 day on the route for training at actual hours. After that one day it is evaluated hours.

Here's a question you might know the answer to. Is the compensation different if you are on an Auxilary route?  So as a TRC on an Aux route am I paid eval or hourly??

My pm recommended I contact my steward......ha very funny.......".trc are not covered by the National Agreement" as stated in the 1996 memo about TRC implimentation. So I can't turn there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! for answers


When I was interviewed and hired all that was discussed was $13.05 an hour as a relief carrier. I did not even know what evaluated meant UNTIL I noticed my paycheck and wondered why it was less hours than what I worked.   So as it stands unless I find out that Aux routes are paid hourly...............................I get 39 dollars for working Sat mornings on an Aux route, which will likely be cut to two mornings a month.

Thanks in advance for any help you may find. Then it seems that I can not apply for rca jobs since I am already a current employee?????????

CJ

[Wave]

You'll always get the evaluation on an Aux route, even during the Christmas Period.  They should give you a day of training on an Aux Route.  An RCA working an Aux would get actual hours during Christmas.  Maybe this has changed as well, but you should be able to take an RCA exam even when you are hired as a TRC.  I don't know why you wouldn't be allowed.  If you like this job, then you should become an RCA somewhere.  I wouldn't stay a TRC if I could help it.