Sound control

[Joep L. Blom]

I am starting to get acqainted with MuseScore but meet some unexpected
problems.
One is that for no reason sound is not produced anymore.
My version:
mscore-common/hardy uptodate 0.9.5b1598+dfsg-0ubuntu~hardy1
mscore/hardy uptodate 0.9.5b1598+dfsg-0ubuntu~hardy1
I'm running on an 64-bit AMD and use alsa (jack is not installed)
Which I think is the latest.
Another -small - problem is that my ignorance of the use of launchpad
prevents me from compiling the source as I don't know how to import it.

A third question to lasconic: I sent you a score exported from Finale in
MusicXML and imported in mscore as you asked me the score to see where
the discrepancies came from. Have you found something as this import is
important to me.
Thanks in advance,
Joep

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[lasconic]

The last version on the ppa is r1638. Not sure it will solve your issue thought.
If you install musescore from your package manager you should see an update available in it.

Regarding the MusicXML file, the result is already good as you said previously. MusicXML support is better every
day. Credits import has been added lately.

2009/3/18 Joep L. Blom <[hidden email]>

I am starting to get acqainted with MuseScore but meet some unexpected
problems.
One is that for no reason sound is not produced anymore.
My version:
mscore-common/hardy uptodate 0.9.5b1598+dfsg-0ubuntu~hardy1
mscore/hardy uptodate 0.9.5b1598+dfsg-0ubuntu~hardy1
I'm running on an 64-bit AMD and use alsa (jack is not installed)
Which I think is the latest.
Another -small - problem is that my ignorance of the use of launchpad
prevents me from compiling the source as I don't know how to import it.

A third question to lasconic: I sent you a score exported from Finale in
MusicXML and imported in mscore as you asked me the score to see where
the discrepancies came from. Have you found something as this import is
important to me.
Thanks in advance,
Joep

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[Toby Smithe-2]

2009/3/18 Lasconic <[hidden email]>:
> The last version on the ppa is r1638.

This is now the case, but previously, Hardy was restricted to r1598
whilst I ensured Qt4.5 was available.

> 2009/3/18 Joep L. Blom <[hidden email]>
>> I am starting to get acqainted with MuseScore but meet some unexpected
>> problems.
>> One is that for no reason sound is not produced anymore.

If you run on the terminal, what is the output?

>> Another -small - problem is that my ignorance of the use of launchpad
>> prevents me from compiling the source as I don't know how to import it.

Run these commands:

sudo apt-get build-dep mscore (to install build dependencies)
apt-get source mscore (to download sources to the current directory)

then, change to the newly downloaded sources' directory, and run

dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot

This will build the package for your architecture in exactly the same
way Launchpad does, except it will not be signed (as I'm not there to
sign it - if you want to sign with your GPG key, add the "-k" option
to dpkg-buildpackage).

If you wish to update your sources to the latest svn revision, run

BUILD_UBUNTU=1 debian/rules update-to-svn
(which calls "svn up" and updates the changelog, amongst other things)

Then, if you run dpkg-buildpackage as above, you will end up with a
more recently revised package. Be aware that in this case, changes to
the mscore sources may mean that the patches in debian/patches do not
apply, and this may need manual intervention.

Hope this helps,

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[Joep L. Blom]

Toby Smithe wrote:

> 2009/3/18 Lasconic <[hidden email]>:
>> The last version on the ppa is r1638.
>
> This is now the case, but previously, Hardy was restricted to r1598
> whilst I ensured Qt4.5 was available.
>
>> 2009/3/18 Joep L. Blom <[hidden email]>
>>> I am starting to get acqainted with MuseScore but meet some unexpected
>>> problems.
>>> One is that for no reason sound is not produced anymore.
>
> If you run on the terminal, what is the output?
>
>>> Another -small - problem is that my ignorance of the use of launchpad
>>> prevents me from compiling the source as I don't know how to import it.
>
> Run these commands:
>
> sudo apt-get build-dep mscore (to install build dependencies)
> apt-get source mscore (to download sources to the current directory)
>
> then, change to the newly downloaded sources' directory, and run
>
> dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot
>
> This will build the package for your architecture in exactly the same
> way Launchpad does, except it will not be signed (as I'm not there to
> sign it - if you want to sign with your GPG key, add the "-k" option
> to dpkg-buildpackage).
>
> If you wish to update your sources to the latest svn revision, run
>
> BUILD_UBUNTU=1 debian/rules update-to-svn
> (which calls "svn up" and updates the changelog, amongst other things)
>
> Then, if you run dpkg-buildpackage as above, you will end up with a
> more recently revised package. Be aware that in this case, changes to
> the mscore sources may mean that the patches in debian/patches do not
> apply, and this may need manual intervention.
>
> Hope this helps,
>

Toby,
Thanks. I just opened my mail and saw your instructions. It's now a
little too late but I will do that tomorrow and report the results.
Joep


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[Joep L. Blom]

Joep L. Blom wrote:
> Toby Smithe wrote:
>> 2009/3/18 Lasconic <[hidden email]>:
>> This is now the case, but previously, Hardy was restricted to r1598
>> whilst I ensured Qt4.5 was available.
>>

>> Run these commands:
>>
>> sudo apt-get build-dep mscore (to install build dependencies)
>> apt-get source mscore (to download sources to the current directory)
>>
>> then, change to the newly downloaded sources' directory, and run
>>
>> dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot
>>
>> This will build the package for your architecture in exactly the same
>> way Launchpad does, except it will not be signed (as I'm not there to
>> sign it - if you want to sign with your GPG key, add the "-k" option
>> to dpkg-buildpackage).
>>
>> If you wish to update your sources to the latest svn revision, run
>>
>> BUILD_UBUNTU=1 debian/rules update-to-svn
>> (which calls "svn up" and updates the changelog, amongst other things)
>>
>> Then, if you run dpkg-buildpackage as above, you will end up with a
>> more recently revised package. Be aware that in this case, changes to
>> the mscore sources may mean that the patches in debian/patches do not
>> apply, and this may need manual intervention.
>>
>> Hope this helps,
>>

Toby,
I followed your instructions (found out I have to be root) and my
systems was churning for approx. 40 minutes (AMD64 3000, 1 MB mem) and
than ended with an error.
The last lines were:
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Linking CXX static library libqtscript_xml.a
make[4]: Leaving directory
`/home/joep/downloads/mscore-0.9.5b1681+dfsg/build'
[ 71%] Built target qtscript_xml
make[4]: Entering directory
`/home/joep/downloads/mscore-0.9.5b1681+dfsg/build'
make[4]: *** No rule to make target
`/home/joep/downloads/mscore-0.9.5b1681+dfsg/mscore/mscore/data/cancel.png',
needed by `mscore/qrc_mscore.cxx'.  Stop.
make[4]: Leaving directory
`/home/joep/downloads/mscore-0.9.5b1681+dfsg/build'
make[3]: *** [mscore/CMakeFiles/mscore.dir/all] Error 2
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Apparently some rule is missing in the Makefile?
I'm not familiar with C-compiling and linking (my programming skills
come from the time that you had no automatic builders and compilers were
simple translation programs for languages as FORTRAN and ALGOL (OK later
PASCAL) but that's besides my problem.
Also is there a logfile as all information is dumped on the terminal.
Can you clarify this and hint me to a solution as until now the version
I work with has no sound so for my work I still have to use Finale.
Thanks in advance,
Joep



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[Toby Smithe-2]

2009/3/30 Joep L. Blom <[hidden email]>:
> Toby,
> I followed your instructions (found out I have to be root) and my systems
> was churning for approx. 40 minutes (AMD64 3000, 1 MB mem) and than ended
> with an error.

If you run the dpkg commands with "-rfakeroot" supplied as an option,
you will not require superuser status, unless you are installing
packages, or creating/modifying files in system directories.

> Apparently some rule is missing in the Makefile?
> I'm not familiar with C-compiling and linking (my programming skills come
> from the time that you had no automatic builders and compilers were simple
> translation programs for languages as FORTRAN and ALGOL (OK later PASCAL)
> but that's besides my problem.

That was a build error from that revision. If you redownload the
sources, or if you run

BUILD_UBUNTU=1 debian/rules update-to-svn

then you should get a package that builds (tested at r1698).

> Also is there a logfile as all information is dumped on the terminal.

No, but you can pipe the stdout on the terminal into a file. The
miracles of Unix ;)
Look into using the ">" operator. That is, if you are using a
bourne-compatible shell.

Hope this helps,

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[Joep L. Blom]

Toby Smithe wrote:

> 2009/3/30 Joep L. Blom <[hidden email]>:
>> Toby,
>> I followed your instructions (found out I have to be root) and my systems
>> was churning for approx. 40 minutes (AMD64 3000, 1 MB mem) and than ended
>> with an error.
>
> If you run the dpkg commands with "-rfakeroot" supplied as an option,
> you will not require superuser status, unless you are installing
> packages, or creating/modifying files in system directories.
>
>> Apparently some rule is missing in the Makefile?
>> I'm not familiar with C-compiling and linking (my programming skills come
>> from the time that you had no automatic builders and compilers were simple
>> translation programs for languages as FORTRAN and ALGOL (OK later PASCAL)
>> but that's besides my problem.
>
> That was a build error from that revision. If you redownload the
> sources, or if you run
>
> BUILD_UBUNTU=1 debian/rules update-to-svn
>
> then you should get a package that builds (tested at r1698).
>
>> Also is there a logfile as all information is dumped on the terminal.
>
> No, but you can pipe the stdout on the terminal into a file. The
> miracles of Unix ;)
> Look into using the ">" operator. That is, if you are using a
> bourne-compatible shell.
>
> Hope this helps,
>

Toby,
Thanks. Yes, the moment I saw the info flying over my screen, I cursed
myself for not piping the output to a logfile.
With respect to "-fakeroot" that is a mystery for me as I thought that
must work but apparently for some diretories it isn't sufficient as it
complained about it and running as root (using sudo: I still must get
accustomed to it, coming from Fedora and using a normal root terminal)
went without problems (except the missing file). I only want to know if
the long time for compiling (>30 min.) is normal or related to the
limited memory of 1 Gb.
Werner also mentioned the missing file which was available in the latest
svn which I will get (tomorrow).
I hope this new compilation also will solve my (no) sound problem.

I would love to test Musescore against Finale as I have several scores
(arrangements) to write for different combinations (from 2 piano's to
big band) and I assume the learning curve is less steep than with Finale
(it took me approx 3 months to become reasonably familiar with it).
Thanks again.
Joep

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[Toby Smithe-2]

2009/3/30 Joep L. Blom <[hidden email]>:
> Toby,
> Thanks. Yes, the moment I saw the info flying over my screen, I cursed
> myself for not piping the output to a logfile.

;)

> With respect to "-fakeroot" that is a mystery for me as I thought that must
> work but apparently for some diretories it isn't sufficient as it complained
> about it and running as root (using sudo: I still must get accustomed to it,
> coming from Fedora and using a normal root terminal) went without problems
> (except the missing file). I only want to know if the long time for
> compiling (>30 min.) is normal or related to the limited memory of 1 Gb.
> Werner also mentioned the missing file which was available in the latest svn
> which I will get (tomorrow).

The option is "-r" and "fakeroot" together: "-r" means "use the
following command for 'root' stuff", and the "fakeroot" is the
command. I can't think of any circumstance where, in the *build*
process, this would fail.

> I hope this new compilation also will solve my (no) sound problem.

If you are using the latest package in the PPA, then building yourself
from those same sources is unlikely to change anything; computers are
good at identically reproducing identical situations, and you are just
performing the same process that Launchpad does to build in the PPA.
Of course, if you have modified the sources, then I shall eat my
words.

The no sound issue is likely caused elsewhere; else I would have
expected more reports of the problem. Please send the output of
"mscore" on the terminal for further diagnosis if the new package
revision isn't helping.

> I would love to test Musescore against Finale as I have several scores
> (arrangements) to write for different combinations (from 2 piano's to big
> band) and I assume the learning curve is less steep than with Finale (it
> took me approx 3 months to become reasonably familiar with it).

I should not like to compare the two, having never used Finale, and as
MuseScore, though brilliant, is still in early days yet. :)

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