Some thoughts

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Some thoughts

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Hi *,

I've exchanged a few emails with Jason and, as a result, I think we should try to put together a list of features that we may want to add to StatSVN.

I will put them here in no particular order except the first one:

proper support for move and renames (one of the main feature of svn)
get away from having to call svn.exe through a command line and try to use SVNKit for instance
improve the output to make it look more modern (my use cases are through maven 1, so I use xdoc output, but the html is getting a bit old):

Use of CSS
move towards more javascript and less static files (but we need to be able to handle massive repositories, so we should not get too much done by javascript/large data files)
add filters/sort etc

Add a few features, integration, more ways to look at data
provide meaningful data exports, XML? JSON? CSV?

Most of it could probably be done in StatCVS...

My £0.02 suggestions
(not worth much anymore...)

Benoit

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Re: Some thoughts

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Maybe you can combine point 3 and 5 in such a way that all output is as XML and use CSS (or XSL) for formatting?
Providing an XML format would also cover a lot of point 4, where anyone can write their own XSL/CSS to create their own views. This might reduce work considerably.

On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 3:23 AM, Benoit Xhenseval <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi *,

I've exchanged a few emails with Jason and, as a result, I think we should try to put together a list of features that we may want to add to StatSVN.

I will put them here in no particular order except the first one:

proper support for move and renames (one of the main feature of svn)
get away from having to call svn.exe through a command line and try to use SVNKit for instance
improve the output to make it look more modern (my use cases are through maven 1, so I use xdoc output, but the html is getting a bit old):

Use of CSS
move towards more javascript and less static files (but we need to be able to handle massive repositories, so we should not get too much done by javascript/large data files)
add filters/sort etc

Add a few features, integration, more ways to look at data
provide meaningful data exports, XML? JSON? CSV?
Most of it could probably be done in StatCVS...

My £0.02 suggestions
(not worth much anymore...)

Benoit

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Re: Some thoughts

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We already have an XML output, don't we?
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On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 7:24 AM, Muhammed Nasrullah <[hidden email]> wrote:

Maybe you can combine point 3 and 5 in such a way that all output is as XML and use CSS (or XSL) for formatting?
Providing an XML format would also cover a lot of point 4, where anyone can write their own XSL/CSS to create their own views. This might reduce work considerably.

On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 3:23 AM, Benoit Xhenseval <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi *,

I've exchanged a few emails with Jason and, as a result, I think we should try to put together a list of features that we may want to add to StatSVN.

I will put them here in no particular order except the first one:

proper support for move and renames (one of the main feature of svn)
get away from having to call svn.exe through a command line and try to use SVNKit for instance
improve the output to make it look more modern (my use cases are through maven 1, so I use xdoc output, but the html is getting a bit old):

Use of CSS
move towards more javascript and less static files (but we need to be able to handle massive repositories, so we should not get too much done by javascript/large data files)
add filters/sort etc

Add a few features, integration, more ways to look at data
provide meaningful data exports, XML? JSON? CSV?
Most of it could probably be done in StatCVS...

My £0.02 suggestions
(not worth much anymore...)

Benoit

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Benoit Xhenseval-2

Re: Some thoughts

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Some javascript/style in this post has been disabled (why?)

Yes we do, I cannot remember the exact syntax but I'm sure we have something...

Muhammed, you might want to try playing around that feature and let us know?

Thanks

Benoit

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From: Jason Kealey
Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 12:00:08 -0400
To: Muhammed Nasrullah<[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [Statsvn-developers] Some thoughts

We already have an XML output, don't we?
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On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 7:24 AM, Muhammed Nasrullah <[hidden email]> wrote:

Maybe you can combine point 3 and 5 in such a way that all output is as XML and use CSS (or XSL) for formatting?
Providing an XML format would also cover a lot of point 4, where anyone can write their own XSL/CSS to create their own views. This might reduce work considerably.

On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 3:23 AM, Benoit Xhenseval <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi *,

I've exchanged a few emails with Jason and, as a result, I think we should try to put together a list of features that we may want to add to StatSVN.

I will put them here in no particular order except the first one:

proper support for move and renames (one of the main feature of svn)
get away from having to call svn.exe through a command line and try to use SVNKit for instance
improve the output to make it look more modern (my use cases are through maven 1, so I use xdoc output, but the html is getting a bit old):

Use of CSS
move towards more javascript and less static files (but we need to be able to handle massive repositories, so we should not get too much done by javascript/large data files)
add filters/sort etc

Add a few features, integration, more ways to look at data
provide meaningful data exports, XML? JSON? CSV?
Most of it could probably be done in StatCVS...

My £0.02 suggestions
(not worth much anymore...)

Benoit

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Nashadelic

Re: Some thoughts

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Just played with the feature a bit, there is a -xml flag which outputs everything an XML file. I noticed that the generated XML file is generally smaller than the svn.log file, but it is still considerably big, I am not sure how fast or slow would a large (500k) XML file take to display with CSS or XSL transformations. I will write a couple of views for these files and share my finding on how slow or fast is this approach, but I will not prematurely optimize :p (the root of all evil according to Knuth).

The XML file is detailed enough, it gives a summary of all developers (LOC summary), it then gives a summary of every commit (time, LOC + or -, Author ID, files changed) and finally LOC breakdown by file.

I should get time after this weekend and I will share whatever I can then

On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 9:07 PM, Benoit Xhenseval <[hidden email]> wrote:

Yes we do, I cannot remember the exact syntax but I'm sure we have something...

Muhammed, you might want to try playing around that feature and let us know?

Thanks

Benoit
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From: Jason Kealey
Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 12:00:08 -0400
To: Muhammed Nasrullah<[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [Statsvn-developers] Some thoughts
We already have an XML output, don't we?
---
Jason Kealey - [hidden email]
LavaBlast Franchise Software - http://www.lavablast.com
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On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 7:24 AM, Muhammed Nasrullah <[hidden email]> wrote:

Maybe you can combine point 3 and 5 in such a way that all output is as XML and use CSS (or XSL) for formatting?
Providing an XML format would also cover a lot of point 4, where anyone can write their own XSL/CSS to create their own views. This might reduce work considerably.

On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 3:23 AM, Benoit Xhenseval <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi *,

I've exchanged a few emails with Jason and, as a result, I think we should try to put together a list of features that we may want to add to StatSVN.

I will put them here in no particular order except the first one:

proper support for move and renames (one of the main feature of svn)
get away from having to call svn.exe through a command line and try to use SVNKit for instance

improve the output to make it look more modern (my use cases are through maven 1, so I use xdoc output, but the html is getting a bit old):

Use of CSS
move towards more javascript and less static files (but we need to be able to handle massive repositories, so we should not get too much done by javascript/large data files)

add filters/sort etc

Add a few features, integration, more ways to look at data
provide meaningful data exports, XML? JSON? CSV?
Most of it could probably be done in StatCVS...

My £0.02 suggestions
(not worth much anymore...)

Benoit

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Benoit Xhenseval-2

Re: Some thoughts

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Some javascript/style in this post has been disabled (why?)

Hi Muhammed,

It will be interesting to get your feedback on the xml. I have not used it in 'real life'. In my experience, a 500k xml file is rather...small! How big is your project?

I'll try to run the export on a few projects like qalab/statsvn and see how big it is. Those are not large, I think that JP has access to some large svn repositories, that's be great to try it.

Regards
B

From: Muhammed Nasrullah
Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 13:38:10 +0500
To: <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [Statsvn-developers] Some thoughts

On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 9:07 PM, Benoit Xhenseval <[hidden email]> wrote:

Yes we do, I cannot remember the exact syntax but I'm sure we have something...

Muhammed, you might want to try playing around that feature and let us know?

Thanks

Benoit
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From: Jason Kealey
Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 12:00:08 -0400
To: Muhammed Nasrullah<[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [Statsvn-developers] Some thoughts
We already have an XML output, don't we?
---
Jason Kealey - [hidden email]
LavaBlast Franchise Software - http://www.lavablast.com
Simplifying day-to-day franchise operations

On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 7:24 AM, Muhammed Nasrullah <[hidden email]> wrote:
Maybe you can combine point 3 and 5 in such a way that all output is as XML and use CSS (or XSL) for formatting?
Providing an XML format would also cover a lot of point 4, where anyone can write their own XSL/CSS to create their own views. This might reduce work considerably.

On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 3:23 AM, Benoit Xhenseval <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi *,

I've exchanged a few emails with Jason and, as a result, I think we should try to put together a list of features that we may want to add to StatSVN.

I will put them here in no particular order except the first one:

proper support for move and renames (one of the main feature of svn)
get away from having to call svn.exe through a command line and try to use SVNKit for instance
improve the output to make it look more modern (my use cases are through maven 1, so I use xdoc output, but the html is getting a bit old):

Use of CSS
move towards more javascript and less static files (but we need to be able to handle massive repositories, so we should not get too much done by javascript/large data files)
add filters/sort etc

Add a few features, integration, more ways to look at data
provide meaningful data exports, XML? JSON? CSV?
Most of it could probably be done in StatCVS...

My £0.02 suggestions
(not worth much anymore...)

Benoit

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Nashadelic

Re: Some thoughts

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My projects generally don't span more than an year with 4-5 people, that edges towards the 'small' size of projects. But I'll still play with the XML files and see of I can get something interesting.

On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 1:53 PM, Benoit Xhenseval <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi Muhammed,

It will be interesting to get your feedback on the xml. I have not used it in 'real life'. In my experience, a 500k xml file is rather...small! How big is your project?

I'll try to run the export on a few projects like qalab/statsvn and see how big it is. Those are not large, I think that JP has access to some large svn repositories, that's be great to try it.

Regards

B
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From: Muhammed Nasrullah
Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 13:38:10 +0500
To: <[hidden email]>

Subject: Re: [Statsvn-developers] Some thoughts
Just played with the feature a bit, there is a -xml flag which outputs everything an XML file. I noticed that the generated XML file is generally smaller than the svn.log file, but it is still considerably big, I am not sure how fast or slow would a large (500k) XML file take to display with CSS or XSL transformations. I will write a couple of views for these files and share my finding on how slow or fast is this approach, but I will not prematurely optimize :p (the root of all evil according to Knuth).

The XML file is detailed enough, it gives a summary of all developers (LOC summary), it then gives a summary of every commit (time, LOC + or -, Author ID, files changed) and finally LOC breakdown by file.

I should get time after this weekend and I will share whatever I can then

On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 9:07 PM, Benoit Xhenseval <[hidden email]> wrote:
Yes we do, I cannot remember the exact syntax but I'm sure we have something...

Muhammed, you might want to try playing around that feature and let us know?

Thanks

Benoit
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From: Jason Kealey
Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 12:00:08 -0400
To: Muhammed Nasrullah<[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [Statsvn-developers] Some thoughts
We already have an XML output, don't we?
---
Jason Kealey - [hidden email]
LavaBlast Franchise Software - http://www.lavablast.com
Simplifying day-to-day franchise operations

On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 7:24 AM, Muhammed Nasrullah <[hidden email]> wrote:

Maybe you can combine point 3 and 5 in such a way that all output is as XML and use CSS (or XSL) for formatting?
Providing an XML format would also cover a lot of point 4, where anyone can write their own XSL/CSS to create their own views. This might reduce work considerably.

On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 3:23 AM, Benoit Xhenseval <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi *,

I've exchanged a few emails with Jason and, as a result, I think we should try to put together a list of features that we may want to add to StatSVN.

I will put them here in no particular order except the first one:

proper support for move and renames (one of the main feature of svn)
get away from having to call svn.exe through a command line and try to use SVNKit for instance

improve the output to make it look more modern (my use cases are through maven 1, so I use xdoc output, but the html is getting a bit old):

Use of CSS
move towards more javascript and less static files (but we need to be able to handle massive repositories, so we should not get too much done by javascript/large data files)

add filters/sort etc

Add a few features, integration, more ways to look at data
provide meaningful data exports, XML? JSON? CSV?
Most of it could probably be done in StatCVS...

My £0.02 suggestions
(not worth much anymore...)

Benoit

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