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In The Name Of God The compassionate merciful

Good day everyone ;

Access to this page is forbidden from server to iranians .
To installing and using android on Freerunner do we need that address content ?

but android.com is open for us .
by and large can we use android legally ?

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no, the page you can't access only contains software ...
to use android on freerunner, you only need content from that page : Index of /android
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In The Name Of God The compassionate merciful

Good day everyone ;

Access to this page is forbidden from server to iranians .
To installing and using android on Freerunner do we need that address content ?

but android.com is open for us .
by and large can we use android legally ?

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> no, the page you can't access only contains software ...
> to use android on freerunner, you only need content from that page : Index of /android

Hi Dehqan,

If this reply did not help you, try to post your question on the project mailing list:

http://groups.google.com/group/android-on-freerunner

In case you have issues posting to the list, just let me know and I'll try to help you where I can.

Niels.

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> Access to this page is forbidden from server to iranians .
> To installing and using android on Freerunner do we need that address content ?
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> but android.com is open for us .
> by and large can we use android legally ?

     
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Good day everyone ;
Thanks for your attentions ;


no, the page you can't access only contains software ...
to use android on freerunner, you only need content from that page : Index of /android
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Which softwares ? android softwares ? Do you mean we can not use android sofware ?
 Are contents of Index of /android made from those code ? or there is not any relation between http://code.google.com/ and Index of /android ?

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On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 08:13, a dehqan <[hidden email]> wrote:

> In The Name Of God The compassionate merciful
>
> Good day everyone ;
> Thanks for your attentions ;
>
>
>> no, the page you can't access only contains software ...
>> to use android on freerunner, you only need content from that page : Index
>> of /android
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> Which softwares ? android softwares ? Do you mean we can not use android
> sofware ?
>  Are contents of Index of /android made from those code ? or there is not
> any relation between http://code.google.com/ and Index of /android ?

Actually, the current code is hosted here:
http://gitorious.org/android-on-freerunner

And code.google.com is used for wiki, issue tracking and in part for
download area (official releases and weekly builds).

Daily builds are available from yet another server here:
http://serdar-dere.net/~serdar/daily/

The above page (http://panicking.kicks-ass.org/download/) contains
'unofficial' builds by the most active effort member Michael
Trimarchi.

Do you have access to groups.google.com?  If not, you can try sending
an email to <[hidden email]>

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In The Name Of God The compassionate merciful

 Good day everyone ;
Thanks for your attentions ;



>> no, the page you can't access only contains software ..
 

>>   Gand'
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> Which softwares ? android softwares ? Do you mean we can not use android
> sofware ?
>  Are contents of Index of /android made from those code ? or there is not
> any relation between http://code.google.com/ and Index of /android ?

Actually, the current code is hosted here:
http://gitorious.org/android-on-freerunner

And code.google.com is used for wiki, issue tracking and in part for
download area (official releases and weekly builds).

So  see  http://code.google.com/ contains softwares of android and in part for
download area (official releases and weekly builds). yes ?

Is the only source for official releases and weekly builds and softwares ?
And who are owners of official releases and weekly builds and softwares ?

Daily builds are available from yet another server here:
http://serdar-dere.net/~serdar/daily/
So daily builds on this sever pertain to  owners of weekly builds ? and are those unofficial ?

Do you have access to groups.google.com?  If not, you can try sending
an email to <[hidden email]>

groups.google.com yes is open .
An email has been sent to them but no result yet may be it is technical related contact way .



by and large , http://code.google.com/ is closed for iranians , this mean The owner does not want we use their codes , so we will not use , but before buying Free Runner it's required to know can we use android  and it's applications without that site ?
Is it the only source and owner of official builds for freerunner ?
How much is it required to have a up to date android on FR ?

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http://freerunner.android.koolu.com/ is an effort to run Android on FreeRunner. Images can be downloaded as well for FR.

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this one is not longer maintained ..
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On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 5:53 AM, Shaz <[hidden email]> wrote:

http://freerunner.android.koolu.com/ is an effort to run Android on FreeRunner. Images can be downloaded as well for FR.

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> So  see  http://code.google.com/ contains softwares of android and in part
> for
> download area (official releases and weekly builds). yes ?

Well, not exactly.

The site code.google.com is a open source projects hosting (much like
SourceForge) owned by Google.

Our effort to port Android on FreeRunner is just one of the many
registered projects at code.google.com and it's home page is here:
http://code.google.com/p/android-on-freerunner/

> Is the only source for official releases and weekly builds and softwares ?
> And who are owners of official releases and weekly builds and softwares ?

In fact there's not much 'official' and 'unofficial' stuff going here.
 We're a bunch of self-organized people around the globe trying to put
things together. :)

>> Daily builds are available from yet another server here:
>> http://serdar-dere.net/~serdar/daily/
>
> So daily builds on this sever pertain to  owners of weekly builds ? and are
> those unofficial ?

These are unofficial in the sense that they simply reflect the current
state of development on the project (with cutting-edge enhancements as
well as newly introduced bugs).  I'd better call it 'unstable' or
'testing', whereas builds released on code.google.com are considered
'stable'.

For the purpose of testing you can grab virtually any of the available
builds, but the latest is generally the better.

>> Do you have access to groups.google.com?  If not, you can try sending
>> an email to <[hidden email]>
>>
> groups.google.com yes is open .
> An email has been sent to them but no result yet may be it is technical
> related contact way .
>
>
>
> by and large , http://code.google.com/ is closed for iranians , this mean
> The owner does not want we use their codes , so we will not use , but before
> buying Free Runner it's required to know can we use android  and it's
> applications without that site ?

That's really sad. :(

But I believe it's not the 'owners' (better say 'project admins') of
Android on FreeRunner decided to forbid any particular group of people
to access the project.  It's ultimately must be Google, Inc. who is in
control of the whole code.google.com site.

> Is it the only source and owner of official builds for freerunner ?

You can always download the source code from git repositories at
gitourious and compile it yourself.

> How much is it required to have a up to date android on FR ?

You need a FR, a computer with USB port and GNU/Linux or compatible
operating system to flash the images.

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But I believe it's not the 'owners' (better say 'project admins') of
Android on FreeRunner decided to forbid any particular group of people
to access the project.  It's ultimately must be Google, Inc. who is in
control of the whole code.google.com site.

> Is it the only source and owner of official builds for freerunner ?

You can always download the source code from git repositories at
gitourious and compile it yourself.


Ok , you mean owners of codes are devopers around the world , and they put their codes on code.google.com yes ?
So important question  , Is all the content of http://code.google.com/p/android-on-freerunner/ in git repositories at gitourious ?

By and large , it's required to know if google wants iranians to use android and it's applications or not ?
It is explicit that google is owner of android  , Does google allow iranians use android ?

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On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 1:22 PM, a dehqan <[hidden email]> wrote:

But I believe it's not the 'owners' (better say 'project admins') of
Android on FreeRunner decided to forbid any particular group of people
to access the project.  It's ultimately must be Google, Inc. who is in
control of the whole code.google.com site.

> Is it the only source and owner of official builds for freerunner ?

You can always download the source code from git repositories at
gitourious and compile it yourself.


Ok , you mean owners of codes are devopers around the world , and they put their codes on code.google.com yes ?
So important question  , Is all the content of http://code.google.com/p/android-on-freerunner/ in git repositories at gitourious ?

By and large , it's required to know if google wants iranians to use android and it's applications or not ?
It is explicit that google is owner of android  , Does google allow iranians use android ?

It is open source and as far as I remember the License does not restrict on national boundaries. If you have any problems then someone can put you behind a proxy and you will get what you want.
 

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>> But I believe it's not the 'owners' (better say 'project admins') of
>> Android on FreeRunner decided to forbid any particular group of people
>> to access the project.  It's ultimately must be Google, Inc. who is in
>> control of the whole code.google.com site.
>>
>> > Is it the only source and owner of official builds for freerunner ?
>>
>> You can always download the source code from git repositories at
>> gitourious and compile it yourself.
>>
>
> Ok , you mean owners of codes are devopers around the world , and they put
> their codes on code.google.com yes ?
> So important question  , Is all the content of
> http://code.google.com/p/android-on-freerunner/ in git repositories at
> gitourious ?

Unfortunately, not.  The git repository only contains the source code.
 The project pages on code.google.com include issue list, wiki pages
and released files for download as I mentioned before.

> By and large , it's required to know if google wants iranians to use android
> and it's applications or not ?
> It is explicit that google is owner of android  , Does google allow iranians
> use android ?

Although legally possible, I don't think they restrict usage of
android based on nationality.  You may still encounter problems
connecting to Google services from your device if the packets travel
through Iranian ips banned in this way by google.

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>> by and large , http://code.google.com/ is closed for iranians , this mean
>> The owner does not want we use their codes , so we will not use , but before
>> buying Free Runner it's required to know can we use android  and it's
>> applications without that site ?
>
> That's really sad. :(
>
> But I believe it's not the 'owners' (better say 'project admins') of
> Android on FreeRunner decided to forbid any particular group of people
> to access the project.  It's ultimately must be Google, Inc. who is in
> control of the whole code.google.com site.

Indeed, the admins of the AoF google code page are not blocking anyone from visiting the site, using the Wiki and downloading the software. Trust me ;-)
     
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In The Name Of God The compassionate merciful


Indeed, the admins of the AoF google code page are not blocking anyone from visiting the site, using the Wiki and downloading the software. Trust me ;-)

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How do you know ?

code.google.com veiwing is forbidden for iranians ,and android codes is available in that address ,  Is That mean  google also does not want iranians use android ?

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On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 4:24 PM, a dehqan <[hidden email]> wrote:
In The Name Of God The compassionate merciful


Indeed, the admins of the AoF google code page are not blocking anyone from visiting the site, using the Wiki and downloading the software. Trust me ;-)

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How do you know ?

code.google.com veiwing is forbidden for iranians ,and android codes is available in that address ,  Is That mean  google also does not want iranians use android ?

I agree with Niels Heyvaert because Google cannot afford this at the moment and the governments are also not in such a strong position to impose total restriction like this in current circumstances.

If code.google.com is blocked then you should email google and ask them about the reason. Their reply can straighten things up. And buddy remember nobody can stop you from using or contributing to Android :) The mirror sites and community websites are always there for source code and images.

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>code.google.com veiwing is forbidden for iranians ,and android codes is
>available in that address ,  Is That mean  google also does not want
>iranians use android ?

from what i have experienced in different countries around the world,
are you sure that it is not your government blocking you access to
google?

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yes
Google    
Error
 

Forbidden

Your client does not have permission to get URL / from this server.


On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 3:09 PM, Petr Vanek <[hidden email]> wrote:
>code.google.com veiwing is forbidden for iranians ,and android codes is
>available in that address ,  Is That mean  google also does not want
>iranians use android ?

from what i have experienced in different countries around the world,
are you sure that it is not your government blocking you access to
google?

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yes
Google    
Error
 

Forbidden

Your client does not have permission to get URL / from this server.
Can this possibly mean it's denying access based on User-Agent header sent by your browser?  What is it?

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> On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 13:42, a dehqan <[hidden email]> wrote:
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>> yes
>> Google
>> Error
>>
>>
>> Forbidden
>>
>> Your client does not have permission to get URL / from this server.
>
> Can this possibly mean it's denying access based on User-Agent header sent by your browser?  What is it?

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On Thursday 05 November 2009 12:24 a dehqan wrote:

> In The Name Of God The compassionate merciful
>
> > Indeed, the admins of the AoF google code page are not blocking anyone
> > from visiting the site, using the Wiki and downloading the software.
> > Trust me ;-)
> >
> > _________________________________________________________________
>
> How do you know ?
>
> code.google.com veiwing is forbidden for iranians ,and android codes is
> available in that address ,  Is That mean  google also does not want
> iranians use android ?
>
> regards dehqan
Hi dehqan,

have you ever considered that *.google.com is blocked by your own government
as it also provides many other services, among them access to sources of
information or data that may be considered inappropriate in your country? At
least of what I know (from information sources available via google.com) about
your country I would seriously consider this.

Regards
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