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Guys,

Today me, Selpiso and Kamarul managed to visit Saito college to see for ourselves the venue for our launch party. Saito college is kind enough to offer the Fedora Malaysia team the venue for our inaugural launch party which will be on the 4th of July 2009. The College is located at Petaling Jaya, really close to the MBPJ Tower and just besides the famous Strawberry Fields restaurant. The nearest Putra station will be Taman Jaya and the walking distance should be around 500 meter (didnt test yet though..).

The college had just renovated itself from the old Saito College just opposite the new location. It is home to multiple courses among others are design, security management and IT. The owner is the currently also the owner of Securicor (the armored car company). The IT School is interested to Fedora due to the demand from the student, branding and also value add to their students. I met with the college consultant, Dean / Head of IT school and 2 lecturers to discuss the matters with them. Some of the pictures are below (not good quality / angle. /me not adliazaddin with great camera).

http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=272060&id=518265483&l=211cd88112


Our basic needs which are Internet, plugs and air conditioning is / will be taken care of by them. We can use their brand new hall downstairs for the party and the room should accommodate around 80+ pax. For the food, the college is trying to arrange them, but my idea upon visiting them is that we can just lepak downstairs at the Strawberry Fields and have our own lunch. Logistics part should be straight forward and suggest to put the google map on our wiki page later on.

The second part is the content. It is suggested by the college to put out an introduction about FOSS ecosystem, why it is born, what is fedora, and how fedora works in the entire ecosystem etc so that the student will have and appreciate what is FOSS is all about. As the current uptake among the students are currently very low, also suggested to put some basic and fun content about Fedora (e.g. Fedora Music Server, Web, simple virtualization, cool software etc) to generate the excitement among the students. Also suggest that Yondie (if he is available) to talk about security as some of their courses over in Saito is about that subject matter. In the artwork matter, Apogee can show some of his kung-fu with regards to GIMP and Inkscape to the art student.

Lastly about what we need. I would love to suggest that we came out with the posters (A4) printable around the college to generate the excitement. Also banners for the event to show out at the college and some picture taking later. On the part of the CDs I think sniffit is doing something about it and will report later, but suggest to have some big stack of it to giveaway to the students with the right packaging. For the goodies / momentos / lanyards, would like to have some support from Red Hat Malaysia to assist on that (by copy Kennie, can you do something about it?).

I open for discussion.
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OK here's the scoop on the CD Labels.

1) Printers don't hand out quotes based on quantities, they hand out how
much it costs based on:-
       a) printing material
       b) artwork printed (e.g. colors and stuff)
So if we want to effectively compare prices, the comparison would have
to be based on the quality of the print (does the color match the
design), material printed on and total cost. So far I have managed to
get hold of 4 possible printers that can do the job. To compare them, I
can request a sample print from all 4 (this may take up to 2 days).

2) Printers don't like short deadlines. Due to the need to typeset the
artwork, prepare the print blocks etc etc I recommend that the artwork
be sent to the printer within 7 working days before the event, at
minimum 5 days. We will also may have to be ready to cut the labels
ourselves.

3) Cost. The better the print the more it costs. So judging on the
quantities alone, the cost might be substantially big since the printer
deals with a really small amount of printed matter required. Cheaper if
done in bulk(e.g 1000 or more) but then I can not give a price quote
from the printers themselves as of yet.

An alternative solution is to take a walk around Jalan Pasar, KL. From
what I heard from some guys in the A&D faculty UiTM Shah Alam, those
printers come in dirt cheap, but the quality may vary. Another place
they mentioned is Printgate in Sunway, decent to high quality prints,
may give discounts on bulk printing.

Regardless of how we proceed, a decision must be made on:-
a) how much are we willing to spend on the labels (cost ceiling)
b) payment and collection methods

Please respond to the thread with your thoughts as I am preparing to
print a set of prints for the printers to refer to for cost estimation.

signed,
sniffit

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good job!

On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 12:18 AM, syamsul anuar <[hidden email]> wrote:
Guys,

Today me, Selpiso and Kamarul managed to visit Saito college to see for ourselves the venue for our launch party. Saito college is kind enough to offer the Fedora Malaysia team the venue for our inaugural launch party which will be on the 4th of July 2009. The College is located at Petaling Jaya, really close to the MBPJ Tower and just besides the famous Strawberry Fields restaurant. The nearest Putra station will be Taman Jaya and the walking distance should be around 500 meter (didnt test yet though..).

The college had just renovated itself from the old Saito College just opposite the new location. It is home to multiple courses among others are design, security management and IT. The owner is the currently also the owner of Securicor (the armored car company). The IT School is interested to Fedora due to the demand from the student, branding and also value add to their students. I met with the college consultant, Dean / Head of IT school and 2 lecturers to discuss the matters with them. Some of the pictures are below (not good quality / angle. /me not adliazaddin with great camera).

http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=272060&id=518265483&l=211cd88112


Our basic needs which are Internet, plugs and air conditioning is / will be taken care of by them. We can use their brand new hall downstairs for the party and the room should accommodate around 80+ pax. For the food, the college is trying to arrange them, but my idea upon visiting them is that we can just lepak downstairs at the Strawberry Fields and have our own lunch. Logistics part should be straight forward and suggest to put the google map on our wiki page later on.

The second part is the content. It is suggested by the college to put out an introduction about FOSS ecosystem, why it is born, what is fedora, and how fedora works in the entire ecosystem etc so that the student will have and appreciate what is FOSS is all about. As the current uptake among the students are currently very low, also suggested to put some basic and fun content about Fedora (e.g. Fedora Music Server, Web, simple virtualization, cool software etc) to generate the excitement among the students. Also suggest that Yondie (if he is available) to talk about security as some of their courses over in Saito is about that subject matter. In the artwork matter, Apogee can show some of his kung-fu with regards to GIMP and Inkscape to the art student.

Lastly about what we need. I would love to suggest that we came out with the posters (A4) printable around the college to generate the excitement. Also banners for the event to show out at the college and some picture taking later. On the part of the CDs I think sniffit is doing something about it and will report later, but suggest to have some big stack of it to giveaway to the students with the right packaging. For the goodies / momentos / lanyards, would like to have some support from Red Hat Malaysia to assist on that (by copy Kennie, can you do something about it?).

I open for discussion.
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Wow 2 weeks to go... Im ok with date and time and place but really need to
promote this early.

On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 12:18 AM, syamsul anuar<[hidden email]> wrote:

> Guys,
>
> Today me, Selpiso and Kamarul managed to visit Saito college to see for
> ourselves the venue for our launch party. Saito college is kind enough to
> offer the Fedora Malaysia team the venue for our inaugural launch party
> which will be on the 4th of July 2009. The College is located at Petaling
> Jaya, really close to the MBPJ Tower and just besides the famous Strawberry
> Fields restaurant. The nearest Putra station will be Taman Jaya and the
> walking distance should be around 500 meter (didnt test yet though..).
>

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On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 3:22 PM, Harisfazillah
Jamel<[hidden email]> wrote:
> Wow 2 weeks to go... Im ok with date and time and place but really need to
> promote this early.

now that the venue is confirmed .. we should start promoting .. erm ..
now ? :P ..

>
> On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 12:18 AM, syamsul anuar<[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Guys,
>>
>> Today me, Selpiso and Kamarul managed to visit Saito college to see for
>> ourselves the venue for our launch party. Saito college is kind enough to
>> offer the Fedora Malaysia team the venue for our inaugural launch party
>> which will be on the 4th of July 2009. The College is located at Petaling
>> Jaya, really close to the MBPJ Tower and just besides the famous Strawberry
>> Fields restaurant. The nearest Putra station will be Taman Jaya and the
>> walking distance should be around 500 meter (didnt test yet though..).
>>
>
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If needs be shall we pass the hat around and ask members of the community to chip in?

C'mon guys and gals....I still owe Kage RM50, so I will chip that in...what say you guys?

Eric

On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 1:14 AM, Ahmad Zulkarnain <[hidden email]> wrote:
OK here's the scoop on the CD Labels.

1) Printers don't hand out quotes based on quantities, they hand out how much it costs based on:-
     a) printing material
     b) artwork printed (e.g. colors and stuff)
So if we want to effectively compare prices, the comparison would have to be based on the quality of the print (does the color match the design), material printed on and total cost. So far I have managed to get hold of 4 possible printers that can do the job. To compare them, I can request a sample print from all 4 (this may take up to 2 days).

2) Printers don't like short deadlines. Due to the need to typeset the artwork, prepare the print blocks etc etc I recommend that the artwork be sent to the printer within 7 working days before the event, at minimum 5 days. We will also may have to be ready to cut the labels ourselves.

3) Cost. The better the print the more it costs. So judging on the quantities alone, the cost might be substantially big since the printer deals with a really small amount of printed matter required. Cheaper if done in bulk(e.g 1000 or more) but then I can not give a price quote from the printers themselves as of yet.

An alternative solution is to take a walk around Jalan Pasar, KL. From what I heard from some guys in the A&D faculty UiTM Shah Alam, those printers come in dirt cheap, but the quality may vary. Another place they mentioned is Printgate in Sunway, decent to high quality prints, may give discounts on bulk printing.

Regardless of how we proceed, a decision must be made on:-
a) how much are we willing to spend on the labels (cost ceiling)
b) payment and collection methods

Please respond to the thread with your thoughts as I am preparing to print a set of prints for the printers to refer to for cost estimation.

signed,
sniffit

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Not a problem here. Just give me the go ahead to talk to the printers.

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Fedora-my take lead. I'll will used all my channels to promote this.
Any wiki or link
we can used as permanent link to refer.

TQ.

On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 3:27 PM, Izhar Firdaus<[hidden email]> wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 3:22 PM, Harisfazillah
> Jamel<[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Wow 2 weeks to go... Im ok with date and time and place but really need to
>> promote this early.
>
> now that the venue is confirmed .. we should start promoting .. erm ..
> now ? :P ..
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Luckily Eric you can keep that money and belanja me because Red Hat Singapore will send us 80pcs of Fedora 11 CDs for the event.

Say thank you to them. The only thing they need in return is that we promote the Fedora Facebook page so that they will get the latest news.

Regards,
-Anuar-

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Not a problem here. Just give me the go ahead to talk to the printers.


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Do we have a date as of when the CDs will arrive?

On a side note, any other materials Red Hat Singapore will be sending
for the event. I'd love to know what other stuffs are coming in (e.g.
banners, tshirts etc)

syamsul anuar wrote:

> Luckily Eric you can keep that money and belanja me because Red Hat
> Singapore will send us 80pcs of Fedora 11 CDs for the event.
>
> Say thank you to them. The only thing they need in return is that we
> promote the Fedora Facebook page so that they will get the latest news.
>
> Regards,
> -Anuar-
>
> On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 7:30 PM, Ahmad Zulkarnain <[hidden email]
> <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
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>     Not a problem here. Just give me the go ahead to talk to the
>     printers.
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The Infinity, Freedom and Voice bunting is at Red Hat Malaysia office and I will be pick them up.

For the CDs, I will update you next week as I just managed to talk to Raymond (RH Singapore).

Regards,
-wariola-

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Do we have a date as of when the CDs will arrive?

On a side note, any other materials Red Hat Singapore will be sending for the event. I'd love to know what other stuffs are coming in (e.g. banners, tshirts etc)

syamsul anuar wrote:
Luckily Eric you can keep that money and belanja me because Red Hat Singapore will send us 80pcs of Fedora 11 CDs for the event.

Say thank you to them. The only thing they need in return is that we promote the Fedora Facebook page so that they will get the latest news.

Regards,
-Anuar-

On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 7:30 PM, Ahmad Zulkarnain <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:

   Not a problem here. Just give me the go ahead to talk to the
   printers.


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Thats good. Can we have one proper invitation email with date time and
place so that i can copy and foward to all the lists. Don't forget the
facebook link and twitter. Tq

On 6/20/09, syamsul anuar <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Luckily Eric you can keep that money and belanja me because Red Hat
> Singapore will send us 80pcs of Fedora 11 CDs for the event.
>
> Say thank you to them. The only thing they need in return is that we promote
> the Fedora Facebook page so that they will get the latest news.
>
> Regards,
> -Anuar-
>
> On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 7:30 PM, Ahmad Zulkarnain <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Not a problem here. Just give me the go ahead to talk to the printers.
>>
>>
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On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 11:08 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel
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>
> Thats good. Can we have one proper invitation email with date time and
> place so that i can copy and foward to all the lists. Don't forget the
> facebook link and twitter. Tq
>
> On 6/20/09, syamsul anuar <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > Luckily Eric you can keep that money and belanja me because Red Hat
> > Singapore will send us 80pcs of Fedora 11 CDs for the event.
> >
> > Say thank you to them. The only thing they need in return is that we promote
> > the Fedora Facebook page so that they will get the latest news.

Great!!!

thanks RH :D

(if only that CD came earlier, i would have brought it here to Mukah
:P ) .. anyway, its free, cant complain ... :P

>
> >
> > Regards,
> > -Anuar-
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 7:30 PM, Ahmad Zulkarnain <[hidden email]> wrote:
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