Re: EeePC - to Fedora or not?

[Beartooth]

On Sun, 12 Oct 2008 11:15:49 -0400, Jim wrote:

> I have a eeePC 702 and it works perfect on FC10 the kernel-2.6.27,  I
> don't know what WiFi the 1000 uses but the eeePC  700 series runs the
> Atheros AR5007EG wireless,  and it won't work in the 2.6.26 kernels FC 8
> - 9 .
> The  rpm from Livna will also give you problems. All hardware on my E
> works perfect on FC10 , most of all the Webcam.

        Mine is a 701, with F9 -- and I can't seem to get online even
with a perfectly good ethernet cable to my switch. But I do have an
external DVD drive, which has served to install things on the EeePC
before, and several 4- or 8-GB thumb sticks. And I found

http://fedoraproject.org/get-prerelease

for downloads. So which version of F10 Beta do I want to use? i386, or
something else??

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[Jim-4]

Beartooth wrote:

> On Sun, 12 Oct 2008 11:15:49 -0400, Jim wrote:
>
>  
>> I have a eeePC 702 and it works perfect on FC10 the kernel-2.6.27,  I
>> don't know what WiFi the 1000 uses but the eeePC  700 series runs the
>> Atheros AR5007EG wireless,  and it won't work in the 2.6.26 kernels FC 8
>> - 9 .
>> The  rpm from Livna will also give you problems. All hardware on my E
>> works perfect on FC10 , most of all the Webcam.
>>    
>
> Mine is a 701, with F9 -- and I can't seem to get online even
> with a perfectly good ethernet cable to my switch. But I do have an
> external DVD drive, which has served to install things on the EeePC
> before, and several 4- or 8-GB thumb sticks. And I found
>
> http://fedoraproject.org/get-prerelease
>
> for downloads. So which version of F10 Beta do I want to use? i386, or
> something else??
>
>  

I installed FC-10 Beta  i386 or i686 on my eeePC 702,  and all hardware
works great.

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[Beartooth]

On Thu, 16 Oct 2008 12:23:32 -0400, Jim wrote:
        [...]
>> So which version of F10 Beta do I want to use? i386, or
>> something else??
>>
>>
> I installed FC-10 Beta  i386 or i686 on my eeePC 702,  and all hardware
> works great.

        Downloading now; many thanks!

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[Paul W. Frields]

On Thu, 2008-10-16 at 18:31 +0000, Beartooth wrote:

> On Thu, 16 Oct 2008 12:23:32 -0400, Jim wrote:
> [...]
> >> So which version of F10 Beta do I want to use? i386, or
> >> something else??
> >>
> >>
> > I installed FC-10 Beta  i386 or i686 on my eeePC 702,  and all hardware
> > works great.
>
> Downloading now; many thanks!

Just to toot the horns of some of the people I work with (and certainly
not my own, since I had nothing whatsoever to do with the matter), a few
of the Fedora hackers inside Red Hat actually did quite a bit of kernel
work upstream to get Linux kernel driver support for these units.  I
don't know if they have 100% coverage for all the eeePCs but it's
certainly a lot farther along than it would have been otherwise.

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[Aldo Foot]

On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 5:31 PM, Paul W. Frields <stickster@...> wrote:
> On Thu, 2008-10-16 at 18:31 +0000, Beartooth wrote:

>> On Thu, 16 Oct 2008 12:23:32 -0400, Jim wrote:
>> > I installed FC-10 Beta  i386 or i686 on my eeePC 702,  and all hardware
>> > works great.

> Just to toot the horns of some of the people I work with (and certainly
> not my own, since I had nothing whatsoever to do with the matter), a few
> of the Fedora hackers inside Red Hat actually did quite a bit of kernel
> work upstream to get Linux kernel driver support for these units.  I
> don't know if they have 100% coverage for all the eeePCs but it's
> certainly a lot farther along than it would have been otherwise.

That's great to know. I've been thinking of getting one of those
eeePCs for myself.

~af

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[Thorsten Leemhuis]

On 12.10.2008 21:26, Jim wrote:
> Beartooth wrote:
>> On Sun, 12 Oct 2008 14:24:03 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote:
> [...]
> The madwifi  drivers at Livna does not work as they should for the
> 2.6.26 kernels.

Did you (or somebody else) file a bug so this can be fixed? Then we can
save a lot of users trouble, as they don't need to wander around on
mailing lists and web forums asking question ;-)

Cu
knurd

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[Jim-4]

Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:

> On 12.10.2008 21:26, Jim wrote:
>> Beartooth wrote:
>>> On Sun, 12 Oct 2008 14:24:03 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote:
>> [...]
>> The madwifi  drivers at Livna does not work as they should for the
>> 2.6.26 kernels.
>
> Did you (or somebody else) file a bug so this can be fixed? Then we
> can save a lot of users trouble, as they don't need to wander around
> on mailing lists and web forums asking question ;-)
>
> Cu
> knurd
>

They did fix it, in FC10 with the 2.6.27 kernels only.

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[Thorsten Leemhuis]

On 17.10.2008 16:35, Jim wrote:

> Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:
>> On 12.10.2008 21:26, Jim wrote:
>>> Beartooth wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 12 Oct 2008 14:24:03 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote:
>>> [...]
>>> The madwifi  drivers at Livna does not work as they should for the
>>> 2.6.26 kernels.
>> Did you (or somebody else) file a bug so this can be fixed? Then we
>> can save a lot of users trouble, as they don't need to wander around
>> on mailing lists and web forums asking question ;-)
> They did fix it, in FC10 with the 2.6.27 kernels only.

Afaics that doesn't answer the question.

The comment above says "The madwifi drivers at Livna does not work as
they should for the 2.6.26 kernels" (from F9 I suppose). Well, they
should just work; if not then it's a bug that should be fixed.

So if someone has more details what wrong *please* file a bug -- that
way the package maintainer will get aware of the issue and then the
problem hopefully can be fixed for all users out there that still use F9
(reminder: F9 as of now is still the lastest stable release, hence most
users likely use it and expect things to "just work").

Cu
knurd

P.S.: In case it's not obvious: I'm one (actually the only active one
that has access to the signing keys) of the Livna contributors (and one
of those that drives RPM Fusion forward). I often see critique about
livna or "foo does not work in livna; here is a workaround" on this
list. That of course is fine (this is a free world), but that doesn't
fix the underlying problem. So if we want to make Fedora better then we
need to get those problems fixed, to make things "just work" (the goal
is to have each and every package to "just work" to avoid that users
have to type magic commands or do modifications to the system). That
only works if problems get reported to the package maintainer, as the
package likely works just fine for him (maybe because he uses the
package differently or on different hardware).

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