Pre-Tribulation Rapture is False

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michael144

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The pre trib rapture is a sleeping pill handed down by Lucifer himself....It's an oxymoron because how can there be tribulation if God's people are not here.....Oh that's right, there will be a second chance-Another sleeping pill.

Tribulation all throughout scripture has been centered around and against God's people. Not against "potentially God's people." Those who "change their mind..."

This only takes a little common sense and to take 3 scriptures from the new testament without showing any example or type from the old testament is plainly an act of guessing......

Here's a clue: Matthew 24:40 is not talking about 2 different people. It is talking about one person circumcised by the Word of God.....

Ecclesiastes 4:15
 I considered all the living which walk under the sun, with the second child that shall stand up in his stead.

Romans 9:21
 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the **same lump **to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?

Show me scripture that says God's people will disappear and the wicked will have a second chance......

The question that needs to be answered that Christendom has not figured out yet is who is God talking about when he says the "wicked."

You will be very surprised to see who the wicked are...

1John 3:8, 9
 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

Two in the field....Two men lying in one bed......Two women grinding at the millstone.......You....Me......The flesh born of Adam and the inward man born of God. We are circumcised by the Word.......The wicked aren't "over there." You wake up with the wicked every day...Read romans 7

John15:3
 Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you.

Here is another pearl....When Jesus said, "Be ye therefore perfect as my Father in heaven is perfect," It was the same as when God said let there be light.....

Here is the most revealing story that proves Christendom has underestimated the power of God...Can you imagine if we all thought like the centurion?

 Matthew 8:5 - 10
 And when Jesus was entered into Capernaum, there came unto him a centurion, beseeching him,  And saying, Lord, my servant lieth at home sick of the palsy, grievously tormented. And Jesus saith unto him, I will come and heal him. The centurion answered and said, Lord, I am not worthy that thou shouldest come under my roof: but ***speak the word only****, and my servant shall be healed.
For I am a man under authority, having soldiers under me: and I say to this man, Go, and he goeth; and to another, Come, and he cometh; and to my servant, Do this, and he doeth it.  When Jesus heard it, he ****marvelled****, and said to them that followed, Verily I say unto you, I have not found so great faith, no, not in Israel.

The true Gospel has not been realized yet.....
Stephi

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When I read this it did bring up a question...about Lucifer.  

According to the Bible, Lucifer had followers.

What did God do to Lucifer and his followers?  
michael144

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the only thing i can think of is he cast them out of heaven

On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 9:58 PM, Stephi <[hidden email]> wrote:
When I read this it did bring up a question...about Lucifer.  

According to the Bible, Lucifer had followers.

What did God do to Lucifer and his followers?  

Stephi

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I really have no clue on this.  Completely blind, but didn't God also create the angels?
If He is willing to cast down the angels, and prevent their entrance to His kingdom, why would He provide for every single human?
This is a Q that can make you go in circles.  I am not saying He has not provided a way for ALL, but it seems that the entire discussion is held only to us 'people.'  

I question everything don't I?
michael144

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It's a legitimate question....Who's to say those fallen angels won't be recovered as well. Remember what I said a few weeks ago....Now think about this and use logic...God creates these beings; angels and humans right? If God was to walk up to them and say, "I love you," would they understand what he was saying? I'll continue the thought after you ponder that question. Your going to find a pearl here Stephi.

On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 9:15 AM, Stephi (No Reply) <[hidden email]> wrote:
I really have no clue on this.  Completely blind, but didn't God also create the angels?
If He is willing to cast down the angels, and prevent their entrance to His kingdom, why would He provide for every single human?
This is a Q that can make you go in circles.  I am not saying He has not provided a way for ALL, but it seems that the entire discussion is held only to us 'people.'  

I question everything don't I?

Stephi

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First thought that comes to mind is in the Bible when Jesus speaks the parable about the workers in the field.  Some were brought in at early morning, some brought just before the end of the day, but they all received the same pay.
michael144

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Exactly...and those who worked longest complained about the others getting paid the same amount...Great point Steph.....Kind of like any one who says God will not save all mankind ( mostly Christians) it is those same people who must have never seen the story of the centurion who knew that with a word his servant could be healed and that Christ did not even have to come to his house.....Think of the implications of the centurion Stephi...Christians have not realized the true Gospel yet......They deny the power...

2Timothy 3:5
 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.

On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 7:00 AM, Stephi <[hidden email]> wrote:
First thought that comes to mind is in the Bible when Jesus speaks the parable about the workers in the field.  Some were brought in at early morning, some brought just before the end of the day, but they all received the same pay.