Please Review: Choose the Right Paster Template

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http://plone.org/documentation/how-to/choose-the-right-paster-template
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It looks pretty good to me. Just a few comments.

You should probably state what the preferred templates are (e.g.
plone3_theme, not plone2_theme). Perhaps mentioning that the paster recipes
are tied to a version of Plone is also useful?

I think it's worth stating that the list of available paster recipes could
change at any minute if someone adds a new one (I was contemplating doing
this yesterday).

I'd also like to know where to go if you want to create your own recipe.
And, are there any guidelines on who can release a recipe or how it can be
included in the next version of PasteScript, in the event someone wants to
write their own?

Cheers,

- Veda


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Christopher Warner () Re: Please Review: Choose the Right Paster Template
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Hey John,

You don't think you need a little more explanation on the differences like
why you want to use lets say a archetype template instead of a regular plone
program template?

Technically if you don't know why you would use one or the other it's just a
printing of the trees.

-C


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sixstring () Re: Please Review: Choose the Right Paster Template
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This is a reply to both Veda and Christopher.  I'm sending it to the whole list, so I can get feedback from everyone.  Please help me get this right. :)

Veda Williams wrote:
It looks pretty good to me. Just a few comments.

You should probably state what the preferred templates are (e.g.
plone3_theme, not plone2_theme). Perhaps mentioning that the paster recipes
are tied to a version of Plone is also useful?

I think it's worth stating that the list of available paster recipes could
change at any minute if someone adds a new one (I was contemplating doing
this yesterday).
Sure, I can add those comments easily.

I'd also like to know where to go if you want to create your own recipe.
And, are there any guidelines on who can release a recipe or how it can be
included in the next version of PasteScript, in the event someone wants to
write their own?

Cheers,

- Veda
Veda, you ask a great question there.  I have no idea what the answer is.

Warner, Christopher wrote:
Hey John,

You don't think you need a little more explanation on the differences like
why you want to use lets say a archetype template instead of a regular plone
program template?
  
Sure, if I knew what the differences were.  But even after 9 months in Plone, I still don't.
Technically if you don't know why you would use one or the other it's just a
printing of the trees.
Bingo!  In my case, I knew I needed something with "profiles/default" in it, so I could set some properties.  The question I needed to answer was, "Which paster template has this?"

Sure, I agree that it's better to actually understand what template you need.  However, there are times that this is just too high a wall to climb.  Consider this How-To on the same level as "grep the codebase."

Any more thoughts?
John

PS-I have found that the paster templates create incomplete "things".  IMHO, stuff that comes out of paster create should be ready to install in Plone, without any customization.  That would give the user a baseline, from which to experiment.  But that's probably a rant for a different list... ;)

Warner, Christopher wrote:
Hey John,

You don't think you need a little more explanation on the differences like
why you want to use lets say a archetype template instead of a regular plone
program template?

Technically if you don't know why you would use one or the other it's just a
printing of the trees.

-C


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http://plone.org/documentation/how-to/choose-the-right-paster-template
Thanks,
JSA
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Matthew Wilkes () Re: Please Review: Choose the Right Paster Template
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On 12 Mar 2009, at 12:51, John Samuel Anderson wrote:

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> PS-I have found that the paster templates create incomplete  
> "things".  IMHO, stuff that comes out of paster create should be  
> ready to install in Plone, without any customization.  That would  
> give the user a baseline, from which to experiment.  But that's  
> probably a rant for a different list... ;)

Can you be more specific please?

Matthew

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