| From Vaughan Johnson <
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| Tue, 20 Oct 2009 15:56:58 -0700
| Subject: [Audacity-devel] Patch for P5: Pressing OK in Preferences removes action text in Undo Menu
> Vidyashankar Vellal wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 3:22 PM, Gale Andrews <
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> > <mailto:
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> >
> >
> > Thanks, Vidyashankar. I had one small query before committing it.
> >
> > If I launch a project, generate a DTMF tone (so get "Undo DTMF Tones"
> > in the Edit menu), open Preferences then OK, "Undo DTMF Tones"
> > remains, but the greyed out "Can't Redo" has changed to greyed
> > out "Redo". If I click "Undo DTMF Tones" and open Preferences and
> > OK, greyed out "Can't Undo" changes to "greyed out "Undo". Which
> > is what I'd expect from your description, and is as before. Worth
> > addressing?
> >
> >
> > I have attached a new patch. Greyed-out "Undo" changed to greyed-out
> > "Can't Undo". Same with Redo
> >
> I haven't been following this, but I don't like "Can't Undo". A
> grayed-out (disabled) menu item is necessarily "can't". Yes, I see
> Microsoft does "Can't Undo" in Excel and probably elsewhere, but I think
> they're the worst example to follow (and they *don't* do it in Visual
> Studio). I think it's pointless, so undesirable (and generates more work
> for translators). Ever since the first Mac, grayed out means disabled.
>
> And would we then prefix "Can't " on every command when it's disabled?
> "Can't Amplify", etc? Obviously a bad idea, but then why should undo and
> redo be inconsistent with all other commands?
>
>
> -1.
I just applied the patch including that change before reading this.
The point of the suggestion was that before that modification to the
patch, clicking OK in Preferences resulted in "Can't Undo" and "Can't
Redo" being renamed to "Undo" and "Redo". When you use the
Undo/Redo items again, they rename themselves to "Can't Undo" and
"Can't Redo" (speaking of how it looks to the user).
In other words, although you don't like it, Audacity already uses "Can't"
for the greyed out Undo/Redo items. Given that, the renaming that goes
on when you use Preferences looked very odd to me, and definitely
worth asking.
I still have the previous version of the patch that permits Preferences
to rename the "Can't Undo"/"Can't Redo". Are you sure you really
prefer that?
Gale
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