Option checkbox in ExitDialog isn't transparent

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Quinton Tormanen

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I have a white background for my dlgbmp.bmp resource, like the one that
WiX provides by default. I tried using
WIXUI_EXITDIALOGOPTIONALCHECKBOXTEXT to allow the user to control
whether our application is run at the end of the install. However, the
entire checkbox control has a gray background.

I see that there isn't a @Transparent="yes" for this control like the
others, but then I'm also aware that checkboxes are notorious for not
being very easily made transparent in Win32. So, is this a known issue
with no good workaround? Or is there a fix that can be made to
ExitDialog so that it is transparent?

I'm using WiX 3.0.5217.0 on x64 Vista.

Quinton Tormanen
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Quinton Tormanen

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Sorry, I had searched for WIXUI_EXITDIALOGOPTIONALCHECKBOXTEXT in the
bug database, but after posting I searched for "transparent" and found
the issue right away (1669640). It's noted that there is no fix, which I
understand.

I promise that I tried to check that it wasn't already posted, but just
not well enough!
 
--Quinton

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From: Quinton Tormanen
Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 11:06 AM
To: 'General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.'
Subject: Option checkbox in ExitDialog isn't transparent

I have a white background for my dlgbmp.bmp resource, like the one that
WiX provides by default. I tried using
WIXUI_EXITDIALOGOPTIONALCHECKBOXTEXT to allow the user to control
whether our application is run at the end of the install. However, the
entire checkbox control has a gray background.

I see that there isn't a @Transparent="yes" for this control like the
others, but then I'm also aware that checkboxes are notorious for not
being very easily made transparent in Win32. So, is this a known issue
with no good workaround? Or is there a fix that can be made to
ExitDialog so that it is transparent?

I'm using WiX 3.0.5217.0 on x64 Vista.

Quinton Tormanen
Software Engineer
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Neil Sleightholm

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There is a workaround for this. Create a custom exit dialog and make the
checkbox only the size of the tick, then put a label next to it. It
works but means that the user needs to click the check area only, the
label part doesn't work.

Neil

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From: Quinton Tormanen [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: 02 July 2009 19:10
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Option checkbox in ExitDialog isn't transparent

Sorry, I had searched for WIXUI_EXITDIALOGOPTIONALCHECKBOXTEXT in the
bug database, but after posting I searched for "transparent" and found
the issue right away (1669640). It's noted that there is no fix, which I
understand.

I promise that I tried to check that it wasn't already posted, but just
not well enough!
 
--Quinton

-----Original Message-----
From: Quinton Tormanen
Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 11:06 AM
To: 'General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.'
Subject: Option checkbox in ExitDialog isn't transparent

I have a white background for my dlgbmp.bmp resource, like the one that
WiX provides by default. I tried using
WIXUI_EXITDIALOGOPTIONALCHECKBOXTEXT to allow the user to control
whether our application is run at the end of the install. However, the
entire checkbox control has a gray background.

I see that there isn't a @Transparent="yes" for this control like the
others, but then I'm also aware that checkboxes are notorious for not
being very easily made transparent in Win32. So, is this a known issue
with no good workaround? Or is there a fix that can be made to
ExitDialog so that it is transparent?

I'm using WiX 3.0.5217.0 on x64 Vista.

Quinton Tormanen
Software Engineer
Delta Computer Systems, Inc.
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and accessibility is hosed.

Neil Sleightholm wrote:

> There is a workaround for this. Create a custom exit dialog and make the
> checkbox only the size of the tick, then put a label next to it. It
> works but means that the user needs to click the check area only, the
> label part doesn't work.
>
> Neil
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Quinton Tormanen [mailto:[hidden email]]
> Sent: 02 July 2009 19:10
> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Option checkbox in ExitDialog isn't transparent
>
> Sorry, I had searched for WIXUI_EXITDIALOGOPTIONALCHECKBOXTEXT in the
> bug database, but after posting I searched for "transparent" and found
> the issue right away (1669640). It's noted that there is no fix, which I
> understand.
>
> I promise that I tried to check that it wasn't already posted, but just
> not well enough!
>
> --Quinton
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Quinton Tormanen
> Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 11:06 AM
> To: 'General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.'
> Subject: Option checkbox in ExitDialog isn't transparent
>
> I have a white background for my dlgbmp.bmp resource, like the one that
> WiX provides by default. I tried using
> WIXUI_EXITDIALOGOPTIONALCHECKBOXTEXT to allow the user to control
> whether our application is run at the end of the install. However, the
> entire checkbox control has a gray background.
>
> I see that there isn't a @Transparent="yes" for this control like the
> others, but then I'm also aware that checkboxes are notorious for not
> being very easily made transparent in Win32. So, is this a known issue
> with no good workaround? Or is there a fix that can be made to
> ExitDialog so that it is transparent?
>
> I'm using WiX 3.0.5217.0 on x64 Vista.
>
> Quinton Tormanen
> Software Engineer
> Delta Computer Systems, Inc.
> http://www.deltamotion.com
>
>
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Thomas Due

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Is it possible to catch click events on labels on a custom dialog?
If so, would it be possible to bind a click event on the label that puts
focus on the checkbox and checks/unchecks it?

Or is that too advanced for MSI?

Thomas

-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Mensching [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: 3. juli 2009 10:01
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Option checkbox in ExitDialog isn't transparent

and accessibility is hosed.

Neil Sleightholm wrote:
> There is a workaround for this. Create a custom exit dialog and make
the

> checkbox only the size of the tick, then put a label next to it. It
> works but means that the user needs to click the check area only, the
> label part doesn't work.
>
> Neil
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Quinton Tormanen [mailto:[hidden email]]
> Sent: 02 July 2009 19:10
> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Option checkbox in ExitDialog isn't
transparent
>
> Sorry, I had searched for WIXUI_EXITDIALOGOPTIONALCHECKBOXTEXT in the
> bug database, but after posting I searched for "transparent" and found
> the issue right away (1669640). It's noted that there is no fix, which
I
> understand.
>
> I promise that I tried to check that it wasn't already posted, but
just

> not well enough!
>
> --Quinton
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Quinton Tormanen
> Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 11:06 AM
> To: 'General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.'
> Subject: Option checkbox in ExitDialog isn't transparent
>
> I have a white background for my dlgbmp.bmp resource, like the one
that

> WiX provides by default. I tried using
> WIXUI_EXITDIALOGOPTIONALCHECKBOXTEXT to allow the user to control
> whether our application is run at the end of the install. However, the
> entire checkbox control has a gray background.
>
> I see that there isn't a @Transparent="yes" for this control like the
> others, but then I'm also aware that checkboxes are notorious for not
> being very easily made transparent in Win32. So, is this a known issue
> with no good workaround? Or is there a fix that can be made to
> ExitDialog so that it is transparent?
>
> I'm using WiX 3.0.5217.0 on x64 Vista.
>
> Quinton Tormanen
> Software Engineer
> Delta Computer Systems, Inc.
> http://www.deltamotion.com
>
>
>
>
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Pally Sandher

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Quinton I also reported the same issue in the WiX bug tracker on
Sourceforge on issue 2025677 a while ago & was told the same thing as
you can see from the notes on it.

As I wrote on that issue, the workaround Neil outlined below is what
I've implemented and if it works for companies like Perforce
(http://www.perforce.com/perforce/products/p4v.html) and Google SketchUp
(http://sketchup.google.com) to reference but 2 examples I see on a
regular basis, it works for us/me.

Cheers,

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Software Deployment & IT Administrator
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-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Mensching [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: 03 July 2009 09:01
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Option checkbox in ExitDialog isn't transparent

and accessibility is hosed.

Neil Sleightholm wrote:

> There is a workaround for this. Create a custom exit dialog and make
> the checkbox only the size of the tick, then put a label next to it.
> It works but means that the user needs to click the check area only,
> the label part doesn't work.
>
> Neil
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Quinton Tormanen [mailto:[hidden email]]
> Sent: 02 July 2009 19:10
> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Option checkbox in ExitDialog isn't
> transparent
>
> Sorry, I had searched for WIXUI_EXITDIALOGOPTIONALCHECKBOXTEXT in the
> bug database, but after posting I searched for "transparent" and found

> the issue right away (1669640). It's noted that there is no fix, which

> I understand.
>
> I promise that I tried to check that it wasn't already posted, but
> just not well enough!
>
> --Quinton
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Quinton Tormanen
> Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 11:06 AM
> To: 'General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.'
> Subject: Option checkbox in ExitDialog isn't transparent
>
> I have a white background for my dlgbmp.bmp resource, like the one
> that WiX provides by default. I tried using
> WIXUI_EXITDIALOGOPTIONALCHECKBOXTEXT to allow the user to control
> whether our application is run at the end of the install. However, the

> entire checkbox control has a gray background.
>
> I see that there isn't a @Transparent="yes" for this control like the
> others, but then I'm also aware that checkboxes are notorious for not
> being very easily made transparent in Win32. So, is this a known issue

> with no good workaround? Or is there a fix that can be made to
> ExitDialog so that it is transparent?
>
> I'm using WiX 3.0.5217.0 on x64 Vista.
>
> Quinton Tormanen
> Software Engineer
> Delta Computer Systems, Inc.
> http://www.deltamotion.com
>
>
>
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No it isn't 'cos I missed a bit! You still set the text of the checkbox
to the same value as the label the Alt-key access then still works.
Tabbing to it still works as well.

Neil

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From: Rob Mensching [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: 03 July 2009 09:01
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Option checkbox in ExitDialog isn't transparent

and accessibility is hosed.

Neil Sleightholm wrote:
> There is a workaround for this. Create a custom exit dialog and make
the

> checkbox only the size of the tick, then put a label next to it. It
> works but means that the user needs to click the check area only, the
> label part doesn't work.
>
> Neil
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Quinton Tormanen [mailto:[hidden email]]
> Sent: 02 July 2009 19:10
> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Option checkbox in ExitDialog isn't
transparent
>
> Sorry, I had searched for WIXUI_EXITDIALOGOPTIONALCHECKBOXTEXT in the
> bug database, but after posting I searched for "transparent" and found
> the issue right away (1669640). It's noted that there is no fix, which
I
> understand.
>
> I promise that I tried to check that it wasn't already posted, but
just

> not well enough!
>
> --Quinton
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Quinton Tormanen
> Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 11:06 AM
> To: 'General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.'
> Subject: Option checkbox in ExitDialog isn't transparent
>
> I have a white background for my dlgbmp.bmp resource, like the one
that

> WiX provides by default. I tried using
> WIXUI_EXITDIALOGOPTIONALCHECKBOXTEXT to allow the user to control
> whether our application is run at the end of the install. However, the
> entire checkbox control has a gray background.
>
> I see that there isn't a @Transparent="yes" for this control like the
> others, but then I'm also aware that checkboxes are notorious for not
> being very easily made transparent in Win32. So, is this a known issue
> with no good workaround? Or is there a fix that can be made to
> ExitDialog so that it is transparent?
>
> I'm using WiX 3.0.5217.0 on x64 Vista.
>
> Quinton Tormanen
> Software Engineer
> Delta Computer Systems, Inc.
> http://www.deltamotion.com
>
>
>
>
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Personally I would like to see this as the default, the current
implementation look rubbish.

Neil

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Sent: 03 July 2009 11:43
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Option checkbox in ExitDialog isn't transparent

Quinton I also reported the same issue in the WiX bug tracker on
Sourceforge on issue 2025677 a while ago & was told the same thing as
you can see from the notes on it.

As I wrote on that issue, the workaround Neil outlined below is what
I've implemented and if it works for companies like Perforce
(http://www.perforce.com/perforce/products/p4v.html) and Google SketchUp
(http://sketchup.google.com) to reference but 2 examples I see on a
regular basis, it works for us/me.

Cheers,

Palbinder Sandher
Software Deployment & IT Administrator
T: +44 (0) 141 945 8500
F: +44 (0) 141 945 8501

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-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Mensching [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: 03 July 2009 09:01
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Option checkbox in ExitDialog isn't transparent

and accessibility is hosed.

Neil Sleightholm wrote:

> There is a workaround for this. Create a custom exit dialog and make
> the checkbox only the size of the tick, then put a label next to it.
> It works but means that the user needs to click the check area only,
> the label part doesn't work.
>
> Neil
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Quinton Tormanen [mailto:[hidden email]]
> Sent: 02 July 2009 19:10
> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Option checkbox in ExitDialog isn't
> transparent
>
> Sorry, I had searched for WIXUI_EXITDIALOGOPTIONALCHECKBOXTEXT in the
> bug database, but after posting I searched for "transparent" and found

> the issue right away (1669640). It's noted that there is no fix, which

> I understand.
>
> I promise that I tried to check that it wasn't already posted, but
> just not well enough!
>
> --Quinton
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Quinton Tormanen
> Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 11:06 AM
> To: 'General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.'
> Subject: Option checkbox in ExitDialog isn't transparent
>
> I have a white background for my dlgbmp.bmp resource, like the one
> that WiX provides by default. I tried using
> WIXUI_EXITDIALOGOPTIONALCHECKBOXTEXT to allow the user to control
> whether our application is run at the end of the install. However, the

> entire checkbox control has a gray background.
>
> I see that there isn't a @Transparent="yes" for this control like the
> others, but then I'm also aware that checkboxes are notorious for not
> being very easily made transparent in Win32. So, is this a known issue

> with no good workaround? Or is there a fix that can be made to
> ExitDialog so that it is transparent?
>
> I'm using WiX 3.0.5217.0 on x64 Vista.
>
> Quinton Tormanen
> Software Engineer
> Delta Computer Systems, Inc.
> http://www.deltamotion.com
>
>
>
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Its not a bug in WiX.  Its the way Windows Installer works.  If you
want that level of control over the UI, that's why they provide the
CustomUI option.  You either live with the restrictions of the UI
model provided by Windows Installer, or you do a custom UI.
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Agreed it is not a WiX bug but why go to the complexity of a CustomUI when a trivial change to the core toolset makes it look 100% better. Surely WiX is about making Windows Installer easier.
 
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Its not a bug in WiX.  Its the way Windows Installer works.  If you
want that level of control over the UI, that's why they provide the
CustomUI option.  You either live with the restrictions of the UI
model provided by Windows Installer, or you do a custom UI.
--
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Rob Mensching-6

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What about screen readers?

The reason WiX doesn't do this is that we've been told that
accessibility gets broken doing this sort of thing. Now none of us are
accessibility experts so if someone that is says this work around does
the correct thing with all the various accessibility devices then we can
do that.

Until then I really do not feel comfortable building UI's by default
that fail accessibility. That totally goes against what we are about.


Neil Sleightholm wrote:

> Agreed it is not a WiX bug but why go to the complexity of a CustomUI when a trivial change to the core toolset makes it look 100% better. Surely WiX is about making Windows Installer easier.
>
> Neil
>
> Neil Sleightholm
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> From: Richard [mailto:[hidden email]]
> Sent: Sat 04/07/2009 00:09
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Option checkbox in ExitDialog isn't transparent
>
>
>
>
> Its not a bug in WiX.  Its the way Windows Installer works.  If you
> want that level of control over the UI, that's why they provide the
> CustomUI option.  You either live with the restrictions of the UI
> model provided by Windows Installer, or you do a custom UI.
> --
> "The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline" -- DirectX 9 draft available for download
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Rob Mensching wrote:
> What about screen readers?
>  

And that clicking on a label doesn't change the checkbox. Even HTML
supports that...

There's an open feature request to make it possible to use a different
(or no) bitmap to make the checkboxes look better, but nobody did the work.

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Do you mean screen readers for the blind? If so I have done some work with these and they are usually implemented to read the text of the control with the focus (i.e. when tabbing around the dialog) or the text under the mouse. As both the checkbox and label have the same text then yes this implementation will work.
 
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What about screen readers?

The reason WiX doesn't do this is that we've been told that
accessibility gets broken doing this sort of thing. Now none of us are
accessibility experts so if someone that is says this work around does
the correct thing with all the various accessibility devices then we can
do that.

Until then I really do not feel comfortable building UI's by default
that fail accessibility. That totally goes against what we are about.


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> Agreed it is not a WiX bug but why go to the complexity of a CustomUI when a trivial change to the core toolset makes it look 100% better. Surely WiX is about making Windows Installer easier.
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Neil Sleightholm wrote:
> Do you mean screen readers for the blind? If so I have done some work with these and they are usually implemented to read the text of the control with the focus (i.e. when tabbing around the dialog) or the text under the mouse. As both the checkbox and label have the same text then yes this implementation will work.
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By repeating the same text. It's a suboptimal solution. The right answer
is to change bitmaps, which of course anybody can do even without
explicit support in WixUIExtension.

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>> And that clicking on a label doesn't change the checkbox. Even HTML supports that...

Badly in my experience.
 
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That doesn't solve the problem, the checkbox grey background is a system colour which is different on different OS's or if the user has changed from the defaults so the bitmap colour can't be determined.
 
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Neil Sleightholm wrote:
> Do you mean screen readers for the blind? If so I have done some work with these and they are usually implemented to read the text of the control with the focus (i.e. when tabbing around the dialog) or the text under the mouse. As both the checkbox and label have the same text then yes this implementation will work.
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By repeating the same text. It's a suboptimal solution. The right answer
is to change bitmaps, which of course anybody can do even without
explicit support in WixUIExtension.

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> That doesn't solve the problem, the checkbox grey background is a system colour which is different on different OS's or if the user has changed from the defaults so the bitmap colour can't be determined.
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Sure it does: Use a different size of bitmap.

> I can see I am not going to convince you or Rob!
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This is not the first time I've heard this proposed; a usability expert
said the same things I'm repeating here. So no, hearing it a
third/fourth/etc. time doesn't convince me.

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