OpenLayers and the OGC?

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bartvde

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Hi list,

since OpenLayers is now implementing so many OGC standards, and will
probably implement even more in the future, I have the following question:

Did anybody ever contact the OGC (Open Geospatial Consortium) to see if
there are opportunities to work together (in a testbed or in another
construction)? E.g. a reference client implementation, certification etc?

Best regards,
Bart

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Christopher Schmidt-2

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On Wed, Nov 04, 2009 at 01:54:27PM +0100, Bart van den Eijnden (OSGIS) wrote:
> Hi list,
>
> since OpenLayers is now implementing so many OGC standards, and will
> probably implement even more in the future, I have the following question:
>
> Did anybody ever contact the OGC (Open Geospatial Consortium) to see if
> there are opportunities to work together (in a testbed or in another
> construction)? E.g. a reference client implementation, certification etc?

OpenLayers has been a key part of several testbed efforts, but all made
by individual companies. (I'm pretty sure that LISAsoft used OL for testbed
work at least once, possibly twice.)

I personally have no particular desire to get more deeply involved with OGC,
but have no problem with others pushing in that direction.

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Roald de Wit-2

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Hi,

Christopher Schmidt wrote:
> OpenLayers has been a key part of several testbed efforts, but all made
> by individual companies. (I'm pretty sure that LISAsoft used OL for testbed
> work at least once, possibly twice.)
>  
That's correct. LISAsoft contributed KML styling support to OL for an
OGC testbed (OWS 5.1) for example. And as part of the CGDI Pilot [1] we
implemented (and contributed back) GeoRSS support in OpenLayers.

> I personally have no particular desire to get more deeply involved with OGC,
> but have no problem with others pushing in that direction.
>  
It requires a fair bit of effort (and money) to participate in these
testbeds and will not be easy for the community as such to do. As an
organisation that wants to participate, it pays to keep an eye on what
testbeds become available and put in your bid to do your bit!
Only a week ago OGC announced their CFP for OWS-7 [2] (closing date: 1
December 2009).

[1] http://www.opengeospatial.org/pub/www/cgdi/index.html
[2] http://www.opengeospatial.org/standards/requests/60

Regards, Roald

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Cameron Shorter-2

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I used Openlayers (and Mapbuilder) code for OGC testbeds before working
at LISAsoft.
In particular, I developed a GML rendering client which part funded the
development of vector rendering in both applications, and was a major
step between the migration of some of the Mapbuilder functionality to
OpenLayers. (Of note, I shared the vector rendering development with
others, notably Camp2Camp who were also working on the functionality
too, and the vector rendering was moved from a branch back into trunk by
others after the testbed).

Re OGC:
To date, I'm unaware of an OGC reference implementation for a client.
The OGC focuses its testing mainly on services (which are much easier to
write tests for).
I also think that a browser based client is not appropriate for a
reference implementation because the platform the browser runs on is so
dynamic. (How many different browser/operating system combinations are
there?)
A desktop client would be more appropriate for a reference implementation.

However, there is a need for clients for OGC services, and the OGC does
part fund the development of these during testbeds, as we at LISAsoft
can attest to. So yes, go ahead and propose OpenLayers as part of a
solution for the next testbed.

Roald de Wit wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Christopher Schmidt wrote:
>  
>> OpenLayers has been a key part of several testbed efforts, but all made
>> by individual companies. (I'm pretty sure that LISAsoft used OL for testbed
>> work at least once, possibly twice.)
>>  
>>    
> That's correct. LISAsoft contributed KML styling support to OL for an
> OGC testbed (OWS 5.1) for example. And as part of the CGDI Pilot [1] we
> implemented (and contributed back) GeoRSS support in OpenLayers.
>
>  
>> I personally have no particular desire to get more deeply involved with OGC,
>> but have no problem with others pushing in that direction.
>>  
>>    
> It requires a fair bit of effort (and money) to participate in these
> testbeds and will not be easy for the community as such to do. As an
> organisation that wants to participate, it pays to keep an eye on what
> testbeds become available and put in your bid to do your bit!
> Only a week ago OGC announced their CFP for OWS-7 [2] (closing date: 1
> December 2009).
>
> [1] http://www.opengeospatial.org/pub/www/cgdi/index.html
> [2] http://www.opengeospatial.org/standards/requests/60
>
> Regards, Roald
>
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bartvde

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Thanks for the feedback.

I just checked the next testbed, but it does not seem interesting from
an OpenLayers point of view.

Best regards,
Bart

Cameron Shorter wrote:

> I used Openlayers (and Mapbuilder) code for OGC testbeds before working
> at LISAsoft.
> In particular, I developed a GML rendering client which part funded the
> development of vector rendering in both applications, and was a major
> step between the migration of some of the Mapbuilder functionality to
> OpenLayers. (Of note, I shared the vector rendering development with
> others, notably Camp2Camp who were also working on the functionality
> too, and the vector rendering was moved from a branch back into trunk by
> others after the testbed).
>
> Re OGC:
> To date, I'm unaware of an OGC reference implementation for a client.
> The OGC focuses its testing mainly on services (which are much easier to
> write tests for).
> I also think that a browser based client is not appropriate for a
> reference implementation because the platform the browser runs on is so
> dynamic. (How many different browser/operating system combinations are
> there?)
> A desktop client would be more appropriate for a reference implementation.
>
> However, there is a need for clients for OGC services, and the OGC does
> part fund the development of these during testbeds, as we at LISAsoft
> can attest to. So yes, go ahead and propose OpenLayers as part of a
> solution for the next testbed.
>
> Roald de Wit wrote:
>  
>> Hi,
>>
>> Christopher Schmidt wrote:
>>  
>>    
>>> OpenLayers has been a key part of several testbed efforts, but all made
>>> by individual companies. (I'm pretty sure that LISAsoft used OL for testbed
>>> work at least once, possibly twice.)
>>>  
>>>    
>>>      
>> That's correct. LISAsoft contributed KML styling support to OL for an
>> OGC testbed (OWS 5.1) for example. And as part of the CGDI Pilot [1] we
>> implemented (and contributed back) GeoRSS support in OpenLayers.
>>
>>  
>>    
>>> I personally have no particular desire to get more deeply involved with OGC,
>>> but have no problem with others pushing in that direction.
>>>  
>>>    
>>>      
>> It requires a fair bit of effort (and money) to participate in these
>> testbeds and will not be easy for the community as such to do. As an
>> organisation that wants to participate, it pays to keep an eye on what
>> testbeds become available and put in your bid to do your bit!
>> Only a week ago OGC announced their CFP for OWS-7 [2] (closing date: 1
>> December 2009).
>>
>> [1] http://www.opengeospatial.org/pub/www/cgdi/index.html
>> [2] http://www.opengeospatial.org/standards/requests/60
>>
>> Regards, Roald
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>>  
>>    
>
>
>  


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