OLPC, Chile and Educalibre

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(from Werner Westermann, [hidden email] )

Best regards from Santiago, Chile.

In May of this year, we had exciting news where the ICT-Schools program of the
Department of Education, Enlaces (http://www.enlaces.cl), asked Educalibre
(http://www.educalibre.cl/) to propose a OLPC deployment project. Enlaces previously met
with a OLPC and Brightstar representatives asuring a total of 1000 XOs. We went on to
develop the proposal and negociate where to deploy the iniciative (Enlaces required us
to engage rural areas, outside of the Metropolitan Area, among others):

http://wiki.educalibre.cl/index.php/Propuesta_OLPC_Chile

Unfortunately, as you can see, the proposal was frustrated, because as Brightstar
distributor and partner of the OLPC Foundation, argued that it would not be possible for
the Chilean State to purchase only 1,000 XOs, but would consider a minimum of 10,000 XO.
Faced with this sudden change of turn and the impossibility of buying that quantity
off-budget, Enlaces decided to discard the possibility that the XO came into the hands
of our children.

Seeing pilots open in Latin America (Paraguay, Colombia, Nicaragua) promoted by NGOs or
other non-profit institutions, we are once again dreaming of implementing an OLPC pilot
in Chile. Educalibre has been formalized as an NGO Corporation and also has the support
of other NGOs that relate to free culture (http://www.derechosdigitales.org/) and
pedagogical universities (http://www.ucsh.cl/). We have certainty of being able to
gather the financial and human resources to successfully depploy OLPC in Chile.

How and through what channel we can raise a formal proposal to deploy OLPC in Chile?

To whom can we turn for this possibility?

With harmless envy, we watch (and also colaborate) how OLPC can be a real strategy to
transform education, teaching, and especially, children's learning. From here we want to
join and contribute in that process. I look forward to your contact.

Best regards,

Werner Westermann Juárez
ONG Corporación Educalibre
http://www.educalibre.cl
(+562) 632 3660
(+5609) 7 805 7501


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Walter Bender-4

Re: [Localization] OLPC, Chile and Educalibre

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I suggest you approach Chuck Kane at OLPC directly. If for some reason
he cannot accommodate the request, then we should discuss alternative
means to deploy Sugar.

-walter

On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 5:32 PM, Yamandu Ploskonka <[hidden email]> wrote:

> (from Werner Westermann, [hidden email] )
>
> Best regards from Santiago, Chile.
>
> In May of this year, we had exciting news where the ICT-Schools program of the
> Department of Education, Enlaces (http://www.enlaces.cl), asked Educalibre
> (http://www.educalibre.cl/) to propose a OLPC deployment project. Enlaces previously met
> with a OLPC and Brightstar representatives asuring a total of 1000 XOs. We went on to
> develop the proposal and negociate where to deploy the iniciative (Enlaces required us
> to engage rural areas, outside of the Metropolitan Area, among others):
>
> http://wiki.educalibre.cl/index.php/Propuesta_OLPC_Chile
>
> Unfortunately, as you can see, the proposal was frustrated, because as Brightstar
> distributor and partner of the OLPC Foundation, argued that it would not be possible for
> the Chilean State to purchase only 1,000 XOs, but would consider a minimum of 10,000 XO.
> Faced with this sudden change of turn and the impossibility of buying that quantity
> off-budget, Enlaces decided to discard the possibility that the XO came into the hands
> of our children.
>
> Seeing pilots open in Latin America (Paraguay, Colombia, Nicaragua) promoted by NGOs or
> other non-profit institutions, we are once again dreaming of implementing an OLPC pilot
> in Chile. Educalibre has been formalized as an NGO Corporation and also has the support
> of other NGOs that relate to free culture (http://www.derechosdigitales.org/) and
> pedagogical universities (http://www.ucsh.cl/). We have certainty of being able to
> gather the financial and human resources to successfully depploy OLPC in Chile.
>
> How and through what channel we can raise a formal proposal to deploy OLPC in Chile?
>
> To whom can we turn for this possibility?
>
> With harmless envy, we watch (and also colaborate) how OLPC can be a real strategy to
> transform education, teaching, and especially, children's learning. From here we want to
> join and contribute in that process. I look forward to your contact.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Werner Westermann Juárez
> ONG Corporación Educalibre
> http://www.educalibre.cl
> (+562) 632 3660
> (+5609) 7 805 7501
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Localization mailing list
> [hidden email]
> http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/localization
>



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Edward Cherlin

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On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 2:37 PM, Walter Bender <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I suggest you approach Chuck Kane at OLPC directly. If for some reason
> he cannot accommodate the request, then we should discuss alternative
> means to deploy Sugar.
>
> -walter
>
> On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 5:32 PM, Yamandu Ploskonka <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> (from Werner Westermann, [hidden email] )
>>
>> Best regards from Santiago, Chile.
>>
>> In May of this year, we had exciting news where the ICT-Schools program of the
>> Department of Education, Enlaces (http://www.enlaces.cl), asked Educalibre
>> (http://www.educalibre.cl/) to propose a OLPC deployment project. Enlaces previously met
>> with a OLPC and Brightstar representatives asuring a total of 1000 XOs. We went on to
>> develop the proposal and negociate where to deploy the iniciative (Enlaces required us
>> to engage rural areas, outside of the Metropolitan Area, among others):
>>
>> http://wiki.educalibre.cl/index.php/Propuesta_OLPC_Chile
>>
>> Unfortunately, as you can see, the proposal was frustrated, because as Brightstar
>> distributor and partner of the OLPC Foundation, argued that it would not be possible for
>> the Chilean State to purchase only 1,000 XOs, but would consider a minimum of 10,000 XO.
>> Faced with this sudden change of turn and the impossibility of buying that quantity
>> off-budget, Enlaces decided to discard the possibility that the XO came into the hands
>> of our children.

This is perfectly idiotic. The Give Many page

http://laptop.org/en/participate/give-many.shtml

says

The Give Many program allows donors to bring one laptop per child to
whole classes and schools, and includes Give 100 and Give 1,000
programs. It offers hundreds of students a new way of learning that is
creative, collaborative and self-empowered.

    *  - $219 per laptop to OLPC partner countries and LDCs
    * - $259 per laptop to the rest of the world


Every donation of 100 or more laptops includes spare parts. Donations
of 1,000 laptops or more are eligible for in-person assistance from
OLPC staff.

To become a Give Many donor, write to [hidden email] with your
project timeline, and with details about the receiving school or
group.

Doesn't anybody at OLPC pay attention to what they tell the public?

>> Seeing pilots open in Latin America (Paraguay, Colombia, Nicaragua) promoted by NGOs or
>> other non-profit institutions, we are once again dreaming of implementing an OLPC pilot
>> in Chile. Educalibre has been formalized as an NGO Corporation and also has the support
>> of other NGOs that relate to free culture (http://www.derechosdigitales.org/) and
>> pedagogical universities (http://www.ucsh.cl/). We have certainty of being able to
>> gather the financial and human resources to successfully depploy OLPC in Chile.
>>
>> How and through what channel we can raise a formal proposal to deploy OLPC in Chile?
>>
>> To whom can we turn for this possibility?
>>
>> With harmless envy, we watch (and also colaborate) how OLPC can be a real strategy to
>> transform education, teaching, and especially, children's learning. From here we want to
>> join and contribute in that process. I look forward to your contact.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Werner Westermann Juárez
>> ONG Corporación Educalibre
>> http://www.educalibre.cl
>> (+562) 632 3660
>> (+5609) 7 805 7501
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Localization mailing list
>> [hidden email]
>> http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/localization
>>
>
>
>
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Bert Freudenberg

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On 27.11.2008, at 08:50, Edward Cherlin wrote:

> On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 2:37 PM, Walter Bender <[hidden email]
> > wrote:
>> I suggest you approach Chuck Kane at OLPC directly. If for some  
>> reason
>> he cannot accommodate the request, then we should discuss alternative
>> means to deploy Sugar.
>>
>> -walter
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 5:32 PM, Yamandu Ploskonka <[hidden email]
>> > wrote:
>>> (from Werner Westermann, [hidden email] )
>>>
>>> Best regards from Santiago, Chile.
>>>
>>> In May of this year, we had exciting news where the ICT-Schools  
>>> program of the
>>> Department of Education, Enlaces (http://www.enlaces.cl), asked  
>>> Educalibre
>>> (http://www.educalibre.cl/) to propose a OLPC deployment project.  
>>> Enlaces previously met
>>> with a OLPC and Brightstar representatives asuring a total of 1000  
>>> XOs. We went on to
>>> develop the proposal and negociate where to deploy the iniciative  
>>> (Enlaces required us
>>> to engage rural areas, outside of the Metropolitan Area, among  
>>> others):
>>>
>>> http://wiki.educalibre.cl/index.php/Propuesta_OLPC_Chile
>>>
>>> Unfortunately, as you can see, the proposal was frustrated,  
>>> because as Brightstar
>>> distributor and partner of the OLPC Foundation, argued that it  
>>> would not be possible for
>>> the Chilean State to purchase only 1,000 XOs, but would consider a  
>>> minimum of 10,000 XO.
>>> Faced with this sudden change of turn and the impossibility of  
>>> buying that quantity
>>> off-budget, Enlaces decided to discard the possibility that the XO  
>>> came into the hands
>>> of our children.
>
> This is perfectly idiotic. The Give Many page
>
> http://laptop.org/en/participate/give-many.shtml
>
> says
>
> The Give Many program allows donors to bring one laptop per child to
> whole classes and schools, and includes Give 100 and Give 1,000
> programs. It offers hundreds of students a new way of learning that is
> creative, collaborative and self-empowered.
>
>    *  - $219 per laptop to OLPC partner countries and LDCs
>    * - $259 per laptop to the rest of the world
>
>
> Every donation of 100 or more laptops includes spare parts. Donations
> of 1,000 laptops or more are eligible for in-person assistance from
> OLPC staff.
>
> To become a Give Many donor, write to [hidden email] with your
> project timeline, and with details about the receiving school or
> group.
>
> Doesn't anybody at OLPC pay attention to what they tell the public?


This version of the give many program is only up for a day or so. It  
is indeed much nicer than the previous one:
==========================
To give 100 or more laptops and direct them to a location you  
designate, send email to givemany at laptop.org

Give 100+ $310 per laptop

Give 1000+ $260 per laptop

Give 10,000+ $210 per laptop

In each case, the donor designates where the laptops are sent.

For general information about the many ways you can give laptops  
through the One Laptop per Child Foundation, please send email to  
service at laptopgiving.org

==========================

- Bert -

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On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 1:15 AM, Bert Freudenberg <[hidden email]> wrote:

> This version of the give many program is only up for a day or so. It is
> indeed much nicer than the previous one:
> ==========================
> To give 100 or more laptops and direct them to a location you designate,
> send email to givemany at laptop.org
>
> Give 100+ $310 per laptop
>
> Give 1000+ $260 per laptop
>
> Give 10,000+ $210 per laptop
>
> In each case, the donor designates where the laptops are sent.
>
> For general information about the many ways you can give laptops through the
> One Laptop per Child Foundation, please send email to service at
> laptopgiving.org
>
> ==========================
>
> - Bert -

Can we confirm this with Brightstar? The starting point of this thread
was that they said the minimum order is 10,000 units.

And is it still cash in advance without a shipping date until months later?

On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 5:32 PM, Yamandu Ploskonka <[hidden email]> wrote:

> (from Werner Westermann, [hidden email] )
>
> Best regards from Santiago, Chile.
>
> In May of this year, we had exciting news where the ICT-Schools program of the
> Department of Education, Enlaces (http://www.enlaces.cl), asked Educalibre
> (http://www.educalibre.cl/) to propose a OLPC deployment project. Enlaces previously met
> with a OLPC and Brightstar representatives asuring a total of 1000 XOs. We went on to
> develop the proposal and negociate where to deploy the iniciative (Enlaces required us
> to engage rural areas, outside of the Metropolitan Area, among others):
>
> http://wiki.educalibre.cl/index.php/Propuesta_OLPC_Chile
>
> Unfortunately, as you can see, the proposal was frustrated, because as Brightstar
> distributor and partner of the OLPC Foundation, argued that it would not be possible for
> the Chilean State to purchase only 1,000 XOs, but would consider a minimum of 10,000 XO.
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Pilar Saenz

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Hi

I copy this email to William Nazareth. He works for brightstart as
OLPC Sales & Distribution, Latin America & Caribbean. Maybe he can
answer these questions.

2008/11/27 Edward Cherlin <[hidden email]>:

> On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 1:15 AM, Bert Freudenberg <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> This version of the give many program is only up for a day or so. It is
>> indeed much nicer than the previous one:
>> ==========================
>> To give 100 or more laptops and direct them to a location you designate,
>> send email to givemany at laptop.org
>>
>> Give 100+ $310 per laptop
>>
>> Give 1000+ $260 per laptop
>>
>> Give 10,000+ $210 per laptop
>>
>> In each case, the donor designates where the laptops are sent.
>>
>> For general information about the many ways you can give laptops through the
>> One Laptop per Child Foundation, please send email to service at
>> laptopgiving.org
>>
>> ==========================
>>
>> - Bert -
>
> Can we confirm this with Brightstar? The starting point of this thread
> was that they said the minimum order is 10,000 units.
>
> And is it still cash in advance without a shipping date until months later?
>
> On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 5:32 PM, Yamandu Ploskonka <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> (from Werner Westermann, [hidden email] )
>>
>> Best regards from Santiago, Chile.
>>
>> In May of this year, we had exciting news where the ICT-Schools program of the
>> Department of Education, Enlaces (http://www.enlaces.cl), asked Educalibre
>> (http://www.educalibre.cl/) to propose a OLPC deployment project. Enlaces previously met
>> with a OLPC and Brightstar representatives asuring a total of 1000 XOs. We went on to
>> develop the proposal and negociate where to deploy the iniciative (Enlaces required us
>> to engage rural areas, outside of the Metropolitan Area, among others):
>>
>> http://wiki.educalibre.cl/index.php/Propuesta_OLPC_Chile
>>
>> Unfortunately, as you can see, the proposal was frustrated, because as Brightstar
>> distributor and partner of the OLPC Foundation, argued that it would not be possible for
>> the Chilean State to purchase only 1,000 XOs, but would consider a minimum of 10,000 XO.
> --
> Silent Thunder (默雷/धर्ममेघशब्दगर्ज/دھرممیگھشبدگر ج) is my name
> And Children are my nation.
> The Cosmos is my dwelling place, The Truth my destination.
> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/User:Mokurai
> _______________________________________________
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> [hidden email]
> http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/localization
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