New research data about Republicans a real eye-opener!!

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Randy Lee Dube

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Per Vital Stastistics Office of Bush Administration (Study compiled while Bush was in Office) led Disaster Aftermath Research results:

In tornados and hurricanes, a majority of lost lives, injured Citizens, and Property Destruction and Damage Insurance and FEMA Claims and amount of Claims Payouts; 72% went to registered Republicans, 20% to registered Democrats, and 8% to non-party registered.

Any opinions on these findings?
misterd

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Could be that most tornados occur in the midwest, and hurricanes in the south, which are both heavily republican territories. They are even more likely to occur outside major cities, which further increases the GOP correlation.

OTOH, I am sure that if you measured payouts for earthquake damage, it would tilt heavily in favor of the Dems.
John Ansell

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Very good point.  And those that suffer fire damage and mudslides will tilt Dem too.  Although, San Diego may mess with those figures.  It leans RIght.
John Ansell

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oops, Good point to "misterd"
Randy Lee Dube

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Misterd;
 
Thanks for the reply, haven't found stats on earthquakes on this topic yet, but am aware more earthquakes occur in Southeast Asia, Mexico, South America, Asian Pacific, and Alaska. Assumption that Alaska is a Republican State...


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Could be that most tornados occur in the midwest, and hurricanes in the south, which are both heavily republican territories. They are even more likely to occur outside major cities, which further increases the GOP correlation.

OTOH, I am sure that if you measured payouts for earthquake damage, it would tilt heavily in favor of the Dems.


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The midwest (aka flyover country) had a lot of floods in the past few years also.
Randy Lee Dube

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Seebee;

Did you see the voting map in this year's Presidential Election? The detailed one. It just hit me so funny, because as a former Building Inspector/Plans Examiner, I constantly worked with disaster-zone maps of the U.S; and the red McCain voting areas were almost a perfect match for all the flood zones, seismic-4 regions, hurricane and tornado regions, earthquake zones, etc!! The higher the natural danger, the more dangerous/hazardous mining regions, the hotter the temperature, the more votes McCain received!

I researched the National Vital Statistics Office Records over the Bush years, and found that in hurricanes and tornados, the stats I mentioned above. The anomoly was Katrina, where the levee breaches added the mostly Democratic areas of Greater New Orleans.

The flood zones you mentioned, I guess, are high in Republicans, as well!!

In any case, since you/I (or even the Military) cannot shoot or nuke away a tornado, hurricane, flood, earthquake, or wildfire, we cannot defend our properties in conventional ways. We have to run away from these events (mass evacuate), salvage what we can, rebuild and replace our properties, goods, and memories, on the "Compensation Plan", not the "Macho" or "American Pride" Plans!! Since it is not good business to 'fortify' and 'bunker' design and build our homes, garages, workshops, sheds, patios, decks, etc; the best case left to improve our defenses against natural and weather terror (and kicking our butts), is to address the first thing they destroy, the building and structure exteriors!! Make sense? Common sense?

We are all proud of our double-wall constructed Chevy and Ford trucks (AAARRH-AAARH-AAAARH), are smart enough to see that double-walling our homes (fortifying/bunkering) is too expensive, and have all felt the strength of boat anchors and fishing lines hooked on the bottom/brush (I'm a life-long Largemouth Bass fisherman). Soooo, I took the combined ideas and realities of double-wall construction and tensile strengths of anchor and fishing lines, and came up with a steel retaining net concept that could anchor into building foundations, string along the building frames and component intersection seams, and secondarily anchor to the building frames at meaningful locations, switched to flat-bodied strapping for fitting the building and intersection seam shapes and cost reductions over double-walling, and "walaa", Continuous Connector-Reinforcing for building and structure frames was hatched!! These double-frame (not double-wall) systems are the most "Macho" structures I've ever seen or heard about, making an average house as strong or stronger than the Empire State Building, and more resilient and reusable than 50Lb-Test fishing line!!

Go to my website/link on my other posts to check out these engineered systems, now that you have the lowdown on them, if you like.

John Ansell

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Well Randy Lee Dube, sounds like you have a great creation there.  I'm just listening to the local news (Southern Ca.) about the coming rains and all the talk is about the mud slides that are sure to follow.  Could you imagine making it out of the fire only to lose your house during a mud slide?
Randy Lee Dube

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Well, John Ansell;

As I built and designed buildings in the state of Alaska in the '80's and '90's, on hillsides and riverbanks, and worked Construction Trades and large-scale Construction Project General Labor positions in Los Angeles, San Diego, and in between, during the same decades, I am kinda-sorta aware of most dangers to buildings and infrastructure.

Thanks for the compliment on these new building and structure reinforcing systems. Wanna guess what they are "geared" towards?

In case you don't, here are some of what they help the buildings, structures, and infrastructure fight:

*Wind-forces
*Seismic movement, tremors, and shaking
* Collision impacts and followup-momentum of the building's weight movement that adds to the collision-impact force (softens the blow)
*Slowing down the collapsing time of a building/structure frame when a building frame is compromised by heat, partial destruction, etc. Gives Evacuees, Rescuers, etc; more time to get to safe ground.
* Balancing the proportional weight and structural resistance performability of entrenched in soils buildings and structures. Structurally, any shaped/sized building/structure will act more like a pyramid, in resisting forces and movements.
*(For your mud/landslide concerns) Upgrading the stabilization and separation-resistance of the frames and coverings. In other words, sheds with continuous connector-reinforcing will bounce around in earthquakes, and buildings that are displaced by flooding or landslides will maintain their body shape a lot better, saving the contents of the buildings and structures from destruction and damages better. (When Building Contractors, etc; from SOCAL see my prototypes, they crack up with laughter after they realize what the sheds will do!!)
* Providing a "canvass" for adding Green and Sustainable Building Products and Systems. The building frames won't settle and crack as much in soft or moving soils, meaning that you can add or have added, better water-, thermal-, and fire-proofing solid coatings around the exteriors of buildings and structures that will last.
* Reduce Construction and Destruction costs!!

"Go-Green, with Hurricane-Proof Building Frames!!", because we now can!

http://www.dubephnx@tor-eggs-torclosed-nets.org
John Ansell

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Thanks for the informaiton, Randy.  Here is what Seebee was posting about earlier.  You might find some of those pictures interesting.
seebee

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I just wanted to comment on a building in Alaska.  When we were in Fairbanks a few years ago, we visited the university there.  The guide explained that one of the buildings had a problem with perma-frost and slid down the hill.  It just so happend to be the college of Engineering.

Also, a few years ago we were impressed with the construction of houses along the Alabama gulf coast.  The new homes were made totally of concrete including the roof tiles.  We haven't been back to see if they made it through all of the hurricanes.

If the cost of energy keeps rising, we are going to have a huge population shift south or we will be building better, well-insulated homes.  In this economy, who will be able to afford either option?
Randy Lee Dube

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That figures!! I was mostly in the Anchorage and Kenai Peninsula areas. Had high water tables and marshy soils in the summer and frost heaves the rest of the year. I was working for an Engineer who had to pad a 10,000 SF commercial building with 25 feet of nfs rock/gravel before putting up the steel building!! Worked for a Pool Construction Company in Eastern Texas for a few weeks during College years, digging into clayee soils with high water tables there also, had a lot of water pumping before gunite, as for my Southeast experiences.
 
We can all afford both options, and change the economy for the better, once it gets into everyone's head that continuous building/structure frame reinforcing adds strength, stability, and resiliences to buildings, etc. What that means, is that stronger frames can be shrunk in size, using thinner and alternate materials and fewer fasteners to get the same or better structural performances as current buildings. The two-phase cost savings, the reductions of materials at the construction phase, and the reduced costs of destruction/damages to buildings in tornados, hurricanes, floods, earthquakes, wildfires, etc; is what takes the Construction Industry forward and into Affordable Green and Sustainable houses, restaurants, offices, schools, hospitals, churches, jails, power plants, factories, fire stations, and so on!!
 
To the Builder and the Buyer, there are cost savings. To the Investor and Insurer, there are cost savings. To the Individual and the Community Consumer, there are cost savings.
 
To the "Build'm bigger" crowd, check out the hurricane-proof house constructed in Georgia in 2004: Assessed value of land and house - $670,000.00. Cost of constructing each and every post, beam, column, wall, floor, roof, and coverings at hurricane-proof construction and materials: 3.4 Million Dollars!! House has a great structural wind-force rating, but I don't think the Homeowner/Builder will get such a good Business Economics rating!! (This is the house that Bob Villa helped out with, when he was promoting Sears Roofing Products. There was a show on it, too. Laughed my you-know-what off about the extra costs!!) And the house is still flood-prone!!
 
Have you ever noticed the technological advancements in fishing poles over the decades? Heavy, bulky wood and steel rods to lightweight, stronger, more resilient carbon-fiber rods, (AAARH, AAARH, AAARH!!). The Continuous Connector-Reinforcing Systems I have developed does the same things, basically, for building/structure walls, floors, roofs, etc.
 
The difference is in the cost factors. A 8"x8"x16" masonry cinder block costs more than an 8"x6"x16" masonry cinder block; an 8'-0"x6"x20'-0" framed wall/floor/ceiling costs more than an 8'-0"x4"x20'-0" framed wall/floor/ceiling; and 5,000 isolated connector-reinforcing nails/bolts/screws cost more than 2,500 Continuous Connector-Reinforcing nails/bolts/screws in the same frame system, etc. Continuous Connector-Reinforcing improves the building/structure frames enough to be able to shave a couple of inches off of bearing walls and posts, frame deckings and wall sheathings, which adds up fast to the Building Contractor and Sub-Contractors. The stronger and more stabilized exterior walls can be fully insulated on the exterior sides of the frames as well as between the wall spaces for better energy efficiencies, and so on (equal/better R-Values)!!
 
Check my website out for more.
 
 
 
 

 


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Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 7:18:50 PM
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I just wanted to comment on a building in Alaska.  When we were in Fairbanks a few years ago, we visited the university there.  The guide explained that one of the buildings had a problem with perma-frost and slid down the hill.  It just so happend to be the college of Engineering.

Also, a few years ago we were impressed with the construction of houses along the Alabama gulf coast.  The new homes were made totally of concrete including the roof tiles.  We haven't been back to see if they made it through all of the hurricanes.

If the cost of energy keeps rising, we are going to have a huge population shift south or we will be building better, well-insulated homes.  In this economy, who will be able to afford either option?


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Randy Lee Dube

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Hey, John Ansell;
 
Think about how much easier it will be to clean up and repair Communities after tornados, when the buildings don't break apart!! More Citizens can become involved, in addition to the high-tech workers. Right now, after looking at those Springfield photos, I would deny my Teenager from going there to give assistance, whether I am a Dad or Mom!! With the building frames and most of the coverings and contents intact after a tornado, more of the local Citizens will have time to assist in the Community cean up and getting the local Businesses back on line, etc; instead of getting in the way of all the Professional rescuers, military, police, firefighters, etc. That is one of the main goals of Continuous Connector-Reinforcing Systems for buildings and structures.


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Thanks for the informaiton, Randy.  Here is what Seebee was posting about earlier.  You might find some of those pictures interesting.


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