Netbooks for SL

[Pauline Randall]

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I know that the issue of what laptops/pcs/netbooks to buy that run SL comes up from time to time on this list so I thought I’d report back about my new purchase.

 

I wanted something small/light to take with me when I travel on business but because of the nature of what I do I need something that would run SL slightly faster than snail’s pace! I also didn’t want to pay the earth for it!

 

After much coming and going I settled on a Samsung N510. To save repeating everything full spec is here - http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/pc-peripherals/notebook-computers/n-series/NP-N510-KA01UK/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detail

 

I added an extra 1Gb memory to take it up to 2Gb just to make sure it had a reasonable amount to work with. I bought my netbook a couple of weeks before Win 7 came out as I wasn’t sure when they would change to offering that as the OS. At the start of last week I decided to upgrade to Win 7 (clean install from XP) and have been delighted with both the netbook and the OS. I did need to go back to the Samsung site to download new drivers but they installed fine and everything was hunky dory. Looking at the website it looks like they are now sending it out with Win 7.

 

When I first logged into SL I was told my system wasn’t up to scratch but ignored that an pushed ahead and it runs very nicely. I’ve even ramped up the graphics settings  and it looks fab. I’ve just got back from a three-day trip to London with it. Been connecting to the outside world via O2 mobile broadband dongle and no problems. Connection is fast and runs really well. Uploaded a PowerPoint presentation to Slideshare from the train on Thursday so fast I thought I was imagining it. Logged into SL via O2 mobile to get some snapshots (so graphics settings high) and no probs with that either. I did quite a lot of work just from the battery and it ran fine although I didn’t attempt to login to SL just on battery power as I suspect that would drain it pretty fast.

 

At about 1kg lighter than my other laptop it was also a lot easier to carry around! I paid just over £400 plus the Win 7 upgrade software (best price I could find at the moment was Tesco!) I’d have probably saved a bit if I’d hung on until Win 7 came out but note that Amazon have it on sale at the moment under £400 but still with XP so I guess when you add memory and software upgrade maybe not that much difference in price.

 

Anyway, hope that helps someone!

 

Pauline (aka Liz Ferlinghetti)

 

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[David Gillett]

  I've had my Acer AspireONE for about two months now, with similar
experience.  I don't think I even got the "not up to specs" warning.

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Boy Lane maintains a netbook optimized viewer here: http://my.opera.com/boylane/blog/rainbow-viewer-1-19-0-5-netbook-edition . It features optimizations specifically for netbook CPUs, which I've found to make a big difference. Boy Lane has also resized some menus/dialogs for netbook resolutions allowing you to use some of the features that can get hidden in Lindens viewer.

Because most laptops feature custom implementations of the reference video card, you'll find that the drivers from ATI/nVidia/Intel will rarely support your card, and you'll also find that your laptop manufacturer will rarely provide anything newer than the drivers your laptop shipped with. New drivers do make a big difference however, and the chip manufacturers push out new drivers for their desktop boards every week. Because of this, we have many unofficial driver packs that are really nothing more than the desktop drivers that can be installed on laptops. I've currently been using the Xtreme-G nVidia mobile drivers from http://www.tweakforce.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=index&c=8 and have increased my performance by over 30%.

I too have fallen in love with Windows 7, and I'm currently using it daily on my high end desktop, but the fact remains that Windows 7 is simply a larger and newer OS that was not designed to run well on slow hardware. A rule of thumb I use is that if the machine has 4gb or less RAM, you should use Windows XP 32 bit. Anything more than 4gb requires a 64bit OS, and at that point you may start seeing advantages by using a slower 64bit OS like Windows 7. 98% of the laptops and 100% of the netbooks in use will see the best performance from XP SP3.


On 11/7/2009 7:22 AM, Pauline Randall wrote:

 

I know that the issue of what laptops/pcs/netbooks to buy that run SL comes up from time to time on this list so I thought I’d report back about my new purchase.

 

I wanted something small/light to take with me when I travel on business but because of the nature of what I do I need something that would run SL slightly faster than snail’s pace! I also didn’t want to pay the earth for it!

 

After much coming and going I settled on a Samsung N510. To save repeating everything full spec is here - http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/pc-peripherals/notebook-computers/n-series/NP-N510-KA01UK/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detail

 

I added an extra 1Gb memory to take it up to 2Gb just to make sure it had a reasonable amount to work with. I bought my netbook a couple of weeks before Win 7 came out as I wasn’t sure when they would change to offering that as the OS. At the start of last week I decided to upgrade to Win 7 (clean install from XP) and have been delighted with both the netbook and the OS. I did need to go back to the Samsung site to download new drivers but they installed fine and everything was hunky dory. Looking at the website it looks like they are now sending it out with Win 7.

 

When I first logged into SL I was told my system wasn’t up to scratch but ignored that an pushed ahead and it runs very nicely. I’ve even ramped up the graphics settings  and it looks fab. I’ve just got back from a three-day trip to London with it. Been connecting to the outside world via O2 mobile broadband dongle and no problems. Connection is fast and runs really well. Uploaded a PowerPoint presentation to Slideshare from the train on Thursday so fast I thought I was imagining it. Logged into SL via O2 mobile to get some snapshots (so graphics settings high) and no probs with that either. I did quite a lot of work just from the battery and it ran fine although I didn’t attempt to login to SL just on battery power as I suspect that would drain it pretty fast.

 

At about 1kg lighter than my other laptop it was also a lot easier to carry around! I paid just over £400 plus the Win 7 upgrade software (best price I could find at the moment was Tesco!) I’d have probably saved a bit if I’d hung on until Win 7 came out but note that Amazon have it on sale at the moment under £400 but still with XP so I guess when you add memory and software upgrade maybe not that much difference in price.

 

Anyway, hope that helps someone!

 

Pauline (aka Liz Ferlinghetti)

 

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[Patricia F Anderson]

Our family has had the Acer Aspire since June with similar results and
also no "not up to specs" warning. I borrowed someone else's older
Acer netbook at a conference in May, and that was what clinched the
decision for me.

 - Patricia / Lexi

On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 12:18 PM, David Gillett <[hidden email]> wrote:

>  I've had my Acer AspireONE for about two months now, with similar
> experience.  I don't think I even got the "not up to specs" warning.
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[Rick Stevens]

My fairly new Toshiba netbook with Windows 7 and 2 gigs of RAM is running it just fine, too. 

On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 1:59 PM, Patricia F Anderson <[hidden email]> wrote:

Our family has had the Acer Aspire since June with similar results and
also no "not up to specs" warning. I borrowed someone else's older
Acer netbook at a conference in May, and that was what clinched the
decision for me.

 - Patricia / Lexi

On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 12:18 PM, David Gillett <[hidden email]> wrote:
>  I've had my Acer AspireONE for about two months now, with similar
> experience.  I don't think I even got the "not up to specs" warning.
>
> David Gillett
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[LuAnn Phillips]

How do you netbookers have your SL graphics preferences set?

LuAnn/Thynka

On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 7:40 PM, Rick Stevens <[hidden email]> wrote:

My fairly new Toshiba netbook with Windows 7 and 2 gigs of RAM is running it just fine, too. 

On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 1:59 PM, Patricia F Anderson <[hidden email]> wrote:

Our family has had the Acer Aspire since June with similar results and
also no "not up to specs" warning. I borrowed someone else's older
Acer netbook at a conference in May, and that was what clinched the
decision for me.

 - Patricia / Lexi

On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 12:18 PM, David Gillett <[hidden email]> wrote:
>  I've had my Acer AspireONE for about two months now, with similar
> experience.  I don't think I even got the "not up to specs" warning.
>
> David Gillett
> Stealth Snook
>
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[Larry Havenstein-2]

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Netbooks are a huge moving target as to if they will work or not,  If they are running Windows XP they will work in some form but often not real well.   Most have Intel Video and Shared Video Ram.  Both of those features are horrid for SL.    Only the Windows XP Video drivers for the 945 Intel chipset (what is used in most of the Netbooks)  will support OpenGL, the graphics standard that SL uses.

If you must use a netbook the Rainbow Viewer for Netbooks is your best bet as the settings have been tweaked in the code and the configuration to do their best to squeeze what they can out of the Intel 945 graphics chips.

If you are buying a new netbook and want to use it with SL be sure you get one with the Nvidea ION chipset instead of the Intel 945 and you will be much happier.   The graphics in that chipset is equal to a Nvidea 9800.  Most manufactures also put dedicated video memory on systems using that chipset.   Two netbooks that can be had with the Nvidea ION chipset are the Lenovo S12 with ION and the HP Mini 311 with ION.   I am sure others will come out but these are the first.

Netbooks with the ION chipset should perform as good as most notebooks with an Nvidea adapter.

My experience with Windows 7 on a Intel 945 chipset notebook was that it no longer had OpenGL under Win7 so SL wouldn't work at all.   I may be able to dig and find other drivers but the ones that came normally didn't have OpenGL.

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On 9 Nov 2009 at 21:16, LuAnn Phillips wrote:

How do you netbookers have your SL graphics preferences set?

LuAnn/Thynka

On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 7:40 PM, Rick Stevens <[hidden email]> wrote:

My fairly new Toshiba netbook with Windows 7 and 2 gigs of RAM is running it just fine, too. 

On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 1:59 PM, Patricia F Anderson <[hidden email]> wrote:

Our family has had the Acer Aspire since June with similar results and
also no "not up to specs" warning. I borrowed someone else's older
Acer netbook at a conference in May, and that was what clinched the
decision for me.

 - Patricia / Lexi

On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 12:18 PM, David Gillett <[hidden email]> wrote:
>  I've had my Acer AspireONE for about two months now, with similar
> experience.  I don't think I even got the "not up to specs" warning.
>
> David Gillett
> Stealth Snook
>
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[Larry Havenstein-2]

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Doing some digging I did find that Intel finally came out with drivers for Win7 on the 945 chipset that support OpenGL.  They are not included with Windows 7 and finding drivers at Intel is like a needle in the haystack often.

Here is a link to the Win7 32bit drivers for 945 chipset:

http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&ProdId=2102&DwnldID=18223&lang=eng

I suspect Toshiba is including these drivers rather than the default Windows 7 drivers.   Still with Shared memory and Intel graphics the performance will only be so so.

If you must make SL work with an Intel 945 chipset netbook, I highly recommend you use the Rainbow Viewer for Netbooks:

http://my.opera.com/boylane/blog/rainbow-viewer-1-19-0-5-netbook-edition

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Netbooks are a huge moving target as to if they will work or not,  If they are running Windows XP they will work in some form but often not real well.   Most have Intel Video and Shared Video Ram.  Both of those features are horrid for SL.    Only the Windows XP Video drivers for the 945 Intel chipset (what is used in most of the Netbooks)  will support OpenGL, the graphics standard that SL uses.

If you must use a netbook the Rainbow Viewer for Netbooks is your best bet as the settings have been tweaked in the code and the configuration to do their best to squeeze what they can out of the Intel 945 graphics chips.

If you are buying a new netbook and want to use it with SL be sure you get one with the Nvidea ION chipset instead of the Intel 945 and you will be much happier.   The graphics in that chipset is equal to a Nvidea 9800.  Most manufactures also put dedicated video memory on systems using that chipset.   Two netbooks that can be had with the Nvidea ION chipset are the Lenovo S12 with ION and the HP Mini 311 with ION.   I am sure others will come out but these are the first.

Netbooks with the ION chipset should perform as good as most notebooks with an Nvidea adapter.

My experience with Windows 7 on a Intel 945 chipset notebook was that it no longer had OpenGL under Win7 so SL wouldn't work at all.   I may be able to dig and find other drivers but the ones that came normally didn't have OpenGL.

On 9 Nov 2009 at 21:16, LuAnn Phillips wrote:

How do you netbookers have your SL graphics preferences set?

LuAnn/Thynka

On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 7:40 PM, Rick Stevens <[hidden email]> wrote:

My fairly new Toshiba netbook with Windows 7 and 2 gigs of RAM is running it just fine, too. 

On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 1:59 PM, Patricia F Anderson <[hidden email]> wrote:

Our family has had the Acer Aspire since June with similar results and
also no "not up to specs" warning. I borrowed someone else's older
Acer netbook at a conference in May, and that was what clinched the
decision for me.

 - Patricia / Lexi

On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 12:18 PM, David Gillett <[hidden email]> wrote:
>  I've had my Acer AspireONE for about two months now, with similar
> experience.  I don't think I even got the "not up to specs" warning.
>
> David Gillett
> Stealth Snook
>
>
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[Larry Havenstein-2]

Netbooks with Intel graphics are basicly good for IM and Chat, standing still, listening to streams,  maybe
attending a presentation providing you get there before the crowd.    They just don't have the rendering
horsepower to run all of SL like we like.   The CPU is powerful enough just the graphics have issues.

This is also true for the Budget Intel video based notebooks.   If you really want to run SL the cheapest
computers aren't going to do it well.

The Netbooks with the Nvidea ION chipset are more expensive than the Intel based ones.   But not as big a
difference as a full notebook with an Nvidea  adapter and dedicated video memory.

On 9 Nov 2009 at 14:59, Patricia F Anderson wrote:

> Our family has had the Acer Aspire since June with similar results and
> also no "not up to specs" warning. I borrowed someone else's older
> Acer netbook at a conference in May, and that was what clinched the
> decision for me.
>
>  - Patricia / Lexi
>
> On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 12:18 PM, David Gillett <[hidden email]>
> wrote: >  I've had my Acer AspireONE for about two months now, with
> similar > experience.  I don't think I even got the "not up to specs"
> warning. > > David Gillett > Stealth Snook > > >
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[Cimarusti, Scott V]

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I am able to access an OpenSim environment on a Dell Mini 9 running Ubuntu Linux 9.10 and Meerkat Viewer (http://meerkatviewer.org/). Some of the prims with more complex textures appear blank, but aside from that, I am able to do almost everything else, including watch an embedded .m4v video clip.

 

Something worth experimenting with for users looking for a cheap and convenient way to access Second Life and/or OpenSim…

 

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2340 Siebel Center, MC-258 · 201 N. Goodwin Avenue · Urbana, IL  61801-2302
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From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Larry Havenstein
Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 8:42 AM
To: LuAnn Phillips; SL Educators TThe SLED List"
Subject: Re: [SLED] Netbooks for SL

 

Netbooks are a huge moving target as to if they will work or not,  If they are running Windows XP they will work in some form but often not real well.   Most have Intel Video and Shared Video Ram.  Both of those features are horrid for SL.    Only the Windows XP Video drivers for the 945 Intel chipset (what is used in most of the Netbooks)  will support OpenGL, the graphics standard that SL uses.

 

If you must use a netbook the Rainbow Viewer for Netbooks is your best bet as the settings have been tweaked in the code and the configuration to do their best to squeeze what they can out of the Intel 945 graphics chips.

 

If you are buying a new netbook and want to use it with SL be sure you get one with the Nvidea ION chipset instead of the Intel 945 and you will be much happier.   The graphics in that chipset is equal to a Nvidea 9800.  Most manufactures also put dedicated video memory on systems using that chipset.   Two netbooks that can be had with the Nvidea ION chipset are the Lenovo S12 with ION and the HP Mini 311 with ION.   I am sure others will come out but these are the first.

 

Netbooks with the ION chipset should perform as good as most notebooks with an Nvidea adapter.

 

My experience with Windows 7 on a Intel 945 chipset notebook was that it no longer had OpenGL under Win7 so SL wouldn't work at all.   I may be able to dig and find other drivers but the ones that came normally didn't have OpenGL.

 

 

---

On 9 Nov 2009 at 21:16, LuAnn Phillips wrote:

 

How do you netbookers have your SL graphics preferences set?

LuAnn/Thynka

 

 

On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 7:40 PM, Rick Stevens <[hidden email]> wrote:

My fairly new Toshiba netbook with Windows 7 and 2 gigs of RAM is running it just fine, too. 

 

On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 1:59 PM, Patricia F Anderson <[hidden email]> wrote:

Our family has had the Acer Aspire since June with similar results and
also no "not up to specs" warning. I borrowed someone else's older
Acer netbook at a conference in May, and that was what clinched the
decision for me.

 - Patricia / Lexi

On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 12:18 PM, David Gillett <[hidden email]> wrote:
>  I've had my Acer AspireONE for about two months now, with similar
> experience.  I don't think I even got the "not up to specs" warning.
>
> David Gillett
> Stealth Snook
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[Rick Stevens]

On my Toshiba, it set itself to the lowest graphic setting.  It's still a bit slow.  When I said it worked just fine I wasn't referring to being as good as a desktop with a good card.  I meant that it functioned.  I might have looked more seriously at netbooks with the Nvida chip if I had known ahead of time, but I didn't really get mine with the intent of using it for SL.  It's good to know that it will run and if I need to do something away from home I can.  I won't be using it for SL when desktops with graphic cards are available.

On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Cimarusti, Scott V <[hidden email]> wrote:

I am able to access an OpenSim environment on a Dell Mini 9 running Ubuntu Linux 9.10 and Meerkat Viewer (http://meerkatviewer.org/). Some of the prims with more complex textures appear blank, but aside from that, I am able to do almost everything else, including watch an embedded .m4v video clip.

 

Something worth experimenting with for users looking for a cheap and convenient way to access Second Life and/or OpenSim…

 

_________________________________________________________________

Scott Cimarusti
Department of Computer Science · University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign
2340 Siebel Center, MC-258 · 201 N. Goodwin Avenue · Urbana, IL  61801-2302
Voice: 217.265.6128 · Fax: [phone] · [hidden email]

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From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Larry Havenstein
Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 8:42 AM
To: LuAnn Phillips; SL Educators TThe SLED List"
Subject: Re: [SLED] Netbooks for SL

 

Netbooks are a huge moving target as to if they will work or not,  If they are running Windows XP they will work in some form but often not real well.   Most have Intel Video and Shared Video Ram.  Both of those features are horrid for SL.    Only the Windows XP Video drivers for the 945 Intel chipset (what is used in most of the Netbooks)  will support OpenGL, the graphics standard that SL uses.

 

If you must use a netbook the Rainbow Viewer for Netbooks is your best bet as the settings have been tweaked in the code and the configuration to do their best to squeeze what they can out of the Intel 945 graphics chips.

 

If you are buying a new netbook and want to use it with SL be sure you get one with the Nvidea ION chipset instead of the Intel 945 and you will be much happier.   The graphics in that chipset is equal to a Nvidea 9800.  Most manufactures also put dedicated video memory on systems using that chipset.   Two netbooks that can be had with the Nvidea ION chipset are the Lenovo S12 with ION and the HP Mini 311 with ION.   I am sure others will come out but these are the first.

 

Netbooks with the ION chipset should perform as good as most notebooks with an Nvidea adapter.

 

My experience with Windows 7 on a Intel 945 chipset notebook was that it no longer had OpenGL under Win7 so SL wouldn't work at all.   I may be able to dig and find other drivers but the ones that came normally didn't have OpenGL.

 

 

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On 9 Nov 2009 at 21:16, LuAnn Phillips wrote:

 

How do you netbookers have your SL graphics preferences set?

LuAnn/Thynka

 

 

On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 7:40 PM, Rick Stevens <[hidden email]> wrote:

My fairly new Toshiba netbook with Windows 7 and 2 gigs of RAM is running it just fine, too. 

 

On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 1:59 PM, Patricia F Anderson <[hidden email]> wrote:

Our family has had the Acer Aspire since June with similar results and
also no "not up to specs" warning. I borrowed someone else's older
Acer netbook at a conference in May, and that was what clinched the
decision for me.

 - Patricia / Lexi

On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 12:18 PM, David Gillett <[hidden email]> wrote:
>  I've had my Acer AspireONE for about two months now, with similar
> experience.  I don't think I even got the "not up to specs" warning.
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