National Convention Updates 2009

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I am going to use this thread to post various updates I receive from the Convention..  Check back here for more...
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Day 1 from Jay

National Convention officially opened today and it's fanfare. I think it important to say that I met PT of ruralinfo.net and I expressed my gratitude for what she does, I hope you have taken the opportunity to visit her site as her dedication to our craft is commendable. I need to also thank her husband for allowing the Rural Craft to be a part of his life, THANK YOU.

We began with of course the speeches and the usual opportunity's to advance the many companies that work with the NRLCA and for the craft also the Auxiliary so our morning went fast. We then needed to approve the Standing Rules and it began the motions to amend and delete language until an hour later we accepted the rules the way they were submitted.

Upon our return from lunch we began to get the reports and we went through them by just accepting them as they were written in the National Paper. Then we got the budget. Clifford Daling does one hell of a job trying to explain to the members how we spent our funds in the last year. Of course we as most everyone lost money in the last year. Our investments were impacted, unexpected costs, pay increases, and the purchase of a new residential facilitie for the use of the National Officer who gets the upgrade.

Needless to say we are in the red to the tune of about 1 million dollars. This will be an impact not by a dues increase but by using some of our assets to make it through, so at this point their is no plans to raise our dues. However with the budget attached was the costs of the National Convention. I felt the way it was attached to a budget loss and a breakdown of how much we pay for an annual National Convention, the direction of this conversation should be evident. There will be a push to go to a biannual convention. Of course there will be fierce objections but the benefits to our National Officers should be self evident. Accountable to no one for 2 years, what a deal.

We failed to finish our business for the day due to the objections raised due to the fuzzy math and the smoke and mirrors from the budget so that was put on hold till tomorrow. Wednesday the PMG Harry (Jack) Potter is supposed to address us and their is quite a bit of grumbling from the troops about this, so we shall see.

We are a shrinking workforce and an even more diminishing membership trying to pay for more with no belt tightening by our National Office in store so expect our ability to continue without some fiscal directives headed in peril. At this point I need to review the Constitution & Resolutions so I'm going to leave you with this, our future depends on many issues but as we found out today it's imperative we advise our Senators to not pass S 1507 with the Coburn Ammendant on Arbitrator Neutrality.

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James Pillow

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The secreteary-treasurer is required to give the delegates the cost of the national convention. That was proposed and passed by the delegates a few years ago. That doesn't necessarily mean the board wants biennial conventions passed. However, let's do the math. We lost almost 1 million, we spent over 2 million on last years national convention. So we would be in the black if we hadn't had to have a convention last year.
 
As for the argument about no accountability for 2 years, all I can say is give me an alternate candidate to vote for. If they are unoppsed, they get multiple year terms anyway. I am still waiting for someone to explain to me why it's ok for the Executive Committeemen to have 4 year terms, but it's not ok for the other 5 to have 2 year terms.
James Pillow

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There will be a proposed dues increase. And it will be presented by opponents of biennial conventions. As a proponent of biennial conventions, I hope we go that route instead of a dues increase. We don't need to raise dues on carriers who have taken a hit on the last 2 mail counts. I believe we should give states the option to have their conventions every other year to save money as well, and they can't do that unless national passes it.

As to the point about electing our officers for 2 year terms, I still don't get why everyone is ok with Executive Committeemen having 4 year terms, but opponents of biennial conventions are all upset about the other 5 having 2 year terms. I am happy to vote out who needs to go, but I can't do it if no one runs against them.
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Tell and officer or committee person
THANK YOU for what you do each day.
Craig

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PT, where are you sitting?
I am sitting in the front of the  Texas delegation, right in front of the podium?
Postaltexan

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Craig, I am not there..  Did not have the leave to take all week and cannot afford LWOP..  So, I am having to work.  It is killing me because I want to be there...  I went to the Meet and Greet on Sunday, and then went back on Monday to go out with my buds..  Sorry I missed you...  
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Being in the red for almost 1million is not what I took away from the finance report.   We  have 946,587.00 less in unrestricted net assets  but than again we bought a new condo for almost 600,000.00.   I have 30,000.00  less in my tsp but the rest of me is not in the red.
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Day 2

Today we had guest speakers this morning and what I gleaned from them was quite informational. First we had to do the awards that we were unable to finish yesterday. Then we heard from Denis Lamelin, President of the Canadian Union of Postal Workers. His speech was one that was not so unfamiliar than that what we hear from our Union, Government intrusion into the Postal Service including downsizing, assaults on time standards harassment from managers basically a assault on organized labor and he very much looks forward to the sharing of information in battling the Congress that is trying to destroy the Union that he is President of, sounds real familiar.

Next we heard from Harry (Jack) Potter he arrived with a greeting from the members but it was not an overwhelming response you can imagine why. He brought with him a contingent of Postal Inspectors who were very much like the Secret Service. They were there to protect him from us. I took notes and will try to relay to the best of my ability his direction that he wants to take the USPS.

He started out with the importance of us working as a team, that this is troubling times of which we already knew. His plea was that we continue to do our best in the performance of our duties, as this is the best defense when he is required to go before congress. Our high marks in the ability to deliver in a timely manner and correct performance of our duties is a plus in his ability to argue our abilities to those that will be deciding the future of out company. Such as our EXFC number that are the highest in history.

His next points were on what needs to be done in order to turn the financial losses we're occurring in this great recession, this is greater flexibility in services that we provide. These include our need to seek out new business, a few of those were the ability to offer more products in our outlet stores. The adding of new products that could help in justifying leaving open as many outlets, this is because the sales of stamps are not enough to maintain the costs of leaving those offices open. He also mentioned the Rural Reach Program and the need of us to advance the ability to garner the business that is currently being taken by the UPS and FED EX companies. He explained that it is the intention to advance the Parcel Return program as we can do this much cheaper than are our competition. He also plans to expand Global Express as this seems to be a lucrative business opportunity. He again expressed the need to do the best we can do in order to convince Congress that Universal Service is a legitimate cause and affordable. We have to be able to pay for that service and we will continue to downsize and consolidate in order to better perform in this economy. He expressed that it's obvious that we cannot control the actions of Wall St. & the advertisers. He said that in order to continue to keep our mailers is the reasoning behind the Summer Sale. He said it's his intent to keep the people we have and the way is again the seeking out of new deliveries and mailers. He also mentioned that we will have to rebuild routes through attrition, and that no one is expecting a quick recovery. Long term goals, are the need to reevaluate the long term health care payments required by Congress, also we have to remake our business model. We have to find new revenue sources and new products, he also said the Flat Rate Parcel is a booming success and justified the advertising and costs of selling this product.

Then came the dreaded 5 day delivery model and his support due to decreasing mail volume. He said " How can we afford to go on delivering 6 days with shrinking business" this received a collective groan from the members as we were told yesterday that we could see the loss of 40,000 rural employees.He also repeated surveys of the American people wanting 5 day delivery instead of the raising of postage rates, " We have to be open minded about change". He did take a question and answer period but I failed to ask any hard questions as by that point I needed to walk away as my frustration was becoming evident.

Next up was Michael Gann, NRLCA Counsel. He had a very informative and inspiring speech with the reality of his job in defending you and I against the assault by the USPS on the Rural Craft. He explained the incentive afforded the Rural Carriers of performing in a productive manner and the incentive being our ability to go home after finishing our jobs. He also told us that that is and continues to be used against us because of the "bump" that exists because of the incentive of evaluated pay. There was more but this was what we know that being we are under assault by not only the USPS but now Congress and no job is safe.

We next addressed Constitution changes and most of those failed, the ones of most interest were those of the biennial convention, 2 year terms for our National Officers that are now responsible to the members on a yearly basis. Others that passed were those that cleaned up the Constitution due to the NRLCA withdrawing from the QWL-EI process, also was giving the ability of the National Officers the ability to have more flexibility in the arrangement of the National Convention thus helping to cut overall costs.

We have to do everything to protect ourselves, we can do that by contacting our Senators by defeating S1507 in it's current form, so contact your Senators today. We are responsible for our actions and failure to act will be detrimental to our jobs. This is all I have for now and will be updating you on tomorrows business.

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greeneyes(tx)

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Pt i so wanted to meet you. I heard you were there but I was working the meet and greet ticket table. I think I gave you your tickets but it was so busy the name didn't catch my attention. I also heard super sub was here to but I haven't met her either and would really like to. I dont even know what state she is from. We will have a long  day tomorrow with caucus nite tomorow.
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Aww girl, I tried to find you after Becky told me you were up there but by the time I got there you were gone..And yes maam it was a madhouse up there wasnt it..  I dont know that I would recognize you so you may have given me my tickets.. Not sure..  Supersub is there, she is from Indiana.    We will meet up one day..  Sorry I missed ya girl..
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Day 3 from Jay, Thursday

If you've never attended a National Convention Thursday night is caucus night. This is when all the delegates running for the National Office rotate from region to region and speak and take questions on their behalf, this is a very long process and ran well into the night. It's my belief there will be no changes in your National Board. I would like to say that we made attempts to inform them through questions our immediate threats and they have taken the information under review.

Next it's important to preface my next relay of information. Prior to the lunch break after passing a couple of binding resolutions, things got a little out of control, the President and parliamentarian were trying to do the will of the people but the people were being a bit confusing and not much business was getting done so a recess for lunch was called.

Immediately upon return from lunch and before the complete delegation was seated but the gavel was sounded a motion was made to accept all of the non-binding resolutions in one fell swoop. A vote was taken and a 2/3 majority was achieved. A division was called after the full delegation was seated and another vote was called for after what was a very close vote it was determined that a 2/3 majority was reached and all the non-binding resolutions were passed without debate.

I've listened to both sides of the story and will give you my opinion. These resolutions are our wish list, these are our dream resolutions and in a environment that could be considered a good bargaining atmosphere our National Officers would look at these items and bring them into debate with the USPS. Unfortunately this is a very uncertain time for the USPS and the NRLCA, it's my belief that those issues are not going to be on the table for the issues of COLA, No Lay-off, benefit packages and 5 day delivery, so our wish list will be our fight for the current lifestyle and the way we do buisness and the benefits we recieve. Did we do all the buisness that was put before the delegation no, did I vote to accept the non-binding resolutions, (yes) it's my belief that we need to concentrate on the important issue with the USPS and that is to retain what we have and to advance our issues that will be the payroll increases and health care payment and many many more.

After that a break was taken for a dinner break and then the caucuses began which I discussed before, I finally returned to my room at about 11:00 pm. Our buisness session will be significantly shortened because of yesterday's actions and we will retire allowing the members and the Natoinal Officers the ability to return to work in DC on our behalf, as we need a voice in Congress now.

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rsewell

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I have to say I'm very disappointed. I don't elect delegates to rubber stamp anything and that is what happened here. The Non-binding resolutions were rubber stamped to the board.

I agree with Jay that non-binding resolutions are a wish list and the Union does have bigger fish to fry, but if that is the case then why pass them. If we have 5 day delivery to worry about and a hurting USPS, then why pass these things en masse, it makes no sense. Point is that it's a cop out. The only thing that passing them en masse does is allow the delegates to go home that much earlier. You know, heaven forbid if they actually conduct business into the afternoon or evening like we did last year (We got done at 7 PM).

You see, I don't buy into the argument that these are items that they can debate for us in the just the best of times. I would argue that these are things that can go after any time, good or bad. Whether they'll be successful at it is another matter, but it's still worthy to go after. Otherwise we wouldn't have taken the time to write it, pass it at the local level, and debate and pass them at the State Level. They at the very least should be debated at the National Level, the delegates owe them at least that much.

One thing I saw in James' report that I didn't see in Jay's is that afterwords, they had to go revisit some of them because low and behold, there were some there that were actually a bad idea. If they hadn't passed them en masse, they would have caught it and dealt with it then instead of having to go through a revisit motion.

Maybe it is a good thing I'm not down there, I probably would have been hauled off because of this. This comming from somebody who believes in participating in the Union.
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I work most days of the week so I was unable to attend, but are you guys saying that NOTHING was said about the possibility of going hourly over evaluated??.... THAT should have been one of the most important issues discussed.... with the continuing loss of volume (SEVEN BILLION $$ this year) don't they think we deserve an 8 hour day and a base salary (not based on mail volume) like the other crafts??  .... don't they think we deserve pay equity with the other crafts??  ...this should be the major issue our leaders take in to contract negotiations.... if we don't get some kind of salary security, no matter what they have to do to get it, all those other things, like COLA's aren't going to matter, because we'll just continue to lose with every mail count...... we'll be working 6 days a week, every week for less pay, with no hope in sight....... it's probably a good thing I wasn't there either.... I can't wrap my head around this sometimes????
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It was my understanding that going hourly is their nuclear bomb in the contract negotiations, and if we lose the FSS flats standard debate then we should go hourly.  69 flats a minute is ridiculous, and the President said as much many times at the convention.
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Day 4, Friday from Jay

I'm a few days late with my last update on the National Convention, day 4. As I had said there didn't seem as though there was going to be significant changes as far as the National Board and that is what happened, however at the last call a delegate from Indiana was nominated for National Secretary/Treasurer and he garnered a fair amount of votes. Clifford Dailing was shaken by this significant assault on his position and he made us aware of that during his acceptance speech. We had several Constitution and Resolution changes brought forward most were voted down. I would like to say that several times there were attempts to change the dues for retirees increasing their portion and they were voted down, but it was on the agenda. The Appeals Committee had 3 appeals and they were brought before the membership and were accepted as per the suggestions of the National Appeals Commission. During the Constitution discussions a amendment was put forth to change the make up of the Appeals Commission because of the appointment by the NRLCA President and Board and the impression of indiscretion, might be worth looking into.

I now need to advise you of my impressions that were taken from this Convention. The State of the USPS is not good, the PMG the National Board the National Attorney all were in agreement the company we work for is in trouble and if the involvement of Congress is needed they will probably make things worse. In the words of Michael Gann " the evaluated system is very fragile", and it's my belief that it's beyond repair, especially if 5 day delivery becomes a reality. The USPS continues to be blind to the fact that the "bump" is the incentive in our method of pay and that is what they continue to use against us.

Rural Carriers future is on very shaky ground and the National Board is full aware of the thin line were walking. Our ability to survive will depend on our ability to stay a united bargaining force. However the numbers that were thrown our way such as if 5 day delivery is implemented we or our Association is projected to lose 40,000 members. Our very way of life hangs in the balance and we need to do whatever we can to help. Your colleagues from your State were given letters to be mailed to your State Senators ask them for those letters to encourage your Senators to vote against the bill S1507 in it's current form, also be prepared to write more members of Congress as these bills evolve. Our days are numbered and the time is rapidly approaching when we'll find out what were gonna be. I hope it's employed!

And Thats The Way Jay Sees It
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manOman

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Does anyone have a copy of Potter's remarks or better yet, a link to his speech??

I think it's important for us non-attendees to see if our fearless leader's lips actually move when he's speaking.


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James Pillow

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Rebel... the board's position is that if we lose the DPS review arbitration or we don't get a fair time standard for FSS Flats (as wave pointed out) then they will pursue going hourly. The reason that it didn't get a lot of discussion is because no one knows what the final outcome of those 2 will be.  The PO will not want to let us go hourly, will not want to look at 52 week averages, and will only be looking to slash our time standards. As popular as going hourly is with some people reading this, arbitration is risky when we are on average 5 hours under evaluation.