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RICHARD Didier

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Hi all,

I need to produce NADCON grid from our NTV2 grid.

I have searched the web for NADCON grids specs and only found that a NADCON
grid is a bundle including the data AND the software that reads them ... I,
also, found that there are two files needed (one for longitudes, another one
for latitudes) and that longitudes/latitudes must be round even values ...
But, I am not sure of all of that.

On the other hand, PROJ.4 includes a reader for converting lla (ascii) to
binary ... and lla is mentioned in some web pages.

So, is there "real" specifications for NADCON Grids ? and could someone point
me to them ?

Sincerely,
--
Didier RICHARD, chef du pôle technique Géoportail pour l'IGN
Institut Geographique National           tel: +33/0 1.43.98.83.23
2/4 Avenue Pasteur                       fax: +33/0 1.43.98.80.88
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Clifford J Mugnier

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[Proj] NADCON spec
Contact Mr. David Doyle, Chief Geodesist at the National Geodetic Survey for an official copy of the suite of Fortran source code at:  [hidden email]  Note that the documentation is a bit sketchy since it was developed for internal use of the NGS scientific staff, and not as a "user-friendly package" for the general public.
 
However, I am pretty confident that they have not developed a tranlator from NTV2 to NADCON since the latter is the senior technique developed by LTCDR Warren Dewhurst for his dissertation at Ohio State University in the early 1980s.
 
Bon chance,
 
Clifford J. Mugnier, C.P., C.M.S.
Past National Director (2006-2008),
Photogrammetric Applications Division
American Society for Photogrammetry and Remote Sensing
and
Chief of Geodesy,
CENTER FOR GEOINFORMATICS
Department of Civil Engineering
Patrick F. Taylor Hall 3223A
LOUISIANA STATE UNIVERSITY
Baton Rouge, LA  70803
Voice and Facsimile:  (225) 578-8536 [Academic]
Voice and Facsimile:  (225) 578-8925 [Research]
Honorary Life Member of the
Louisiana Society of Professional Surveyors
Member Emeritus of the ASPRS
Member of the Americas Petroleum Survey Group
======================================================
http://www.asprs.org/resources/GRIDS/
======================================================


From: [hidden email] on behalf of Richard didier
Sent: Wed 09-Sep-09 04:04
To: [hidden email]
Subject: [Proj] NADCON spec

Hi all,

I need to produce NADCON grid from our NTV2 grid.

I have searched the web for NADCON grids specs and only found that a NADCON
grid is a bundle including the data AND the software that reads them ... I,
also, found that there are two files needed (one for longitudes, another one
for latitudes) and that longitudes/latitudes must be round even values ...
But, I am not sure of all of that.

On the other hand, PROJ.4 includes a reader for converting lla (ascii) to
binary ... and lla is mentioned in some web pages.

So, is there "real" specifications for NADCON Grids ? and could someone point
me to them ?

Sincerely,
--
Didier RICHARD, chef du pôle technique Géoportail pour l'IGN
Institut Geographique National           tel: +33/0 1.43.98.83.23
2/4 Avenue Pasteur                       fax: +33/0 1.43.98.80.88
F-94165 St-Mande Cedex                e-mail: [hidden email]

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RICHARD Didier

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Le Mercredi 9 Septembre 2009 16:44, Clifford J Mugnier a écrit :
> Contact Mr. David Doyle, Chief Geodesist at the National Geodetic Survey
> for an official copy of the suite of Fortran source code at:
> [hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>   Note that the
> documentation is a bit sketchy since it was developed for internal use of
> the NGS scientific staff, and not as a "user-friendly package" for the
> general public.
>

Thanks a lot Clifford for the contact person information. I am forwarding this
hint to our geodesists.

> However, I am pretty confident that they have not developed a tranlator
> from NTV2 to NADCON since the latter is the senior technique developed by
> LTCDR Warren Dewhurst for his dissertation at Ohio State University in the
> early 1980s.
>

We will then develop the converter from our internal format (ascii) to NADCON.


> Bon chance,
>

Merci beaucoup,

Regards,

didier

> Clifford J. Mugnier, C.P., C.M.S.
> Past National Director (2006-2008),
> Photogrammetric Applications Division
> American Society for Photogrammetry and Remote Sensing
> and
> Chief of Geodesy,
> CENTER FOR GEOINFORMATICS
> Department of Civil Engineering
> Patrick F. Taylor Hall 3223A
> LOUISIANA STATE UNIVERSITY
> Baton Rouge, LA  70803
> Voice and Facsimile:  (225) 578-8536 [Academic]
> Voice and Facsimile:  (225) 578-8925 [Research]
> Honorary Life Member of the
> Louisiana Society of Professional Surveyors
> Member Emeritus of the ASPRS
> Member of the Americas Petroleum Survey Group
> ======================================================
> http://www.asprs.org/resources/GRIDS/
> ======================================================
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: [hidden email] on behalf of Richard didier
> Sent: Wed 09-Sep-09 04:04
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: [Proj] NADCON spec
>
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> I need to produce NADCON grid from our NTV2 grid.
>
> I have searched the web for NADCON grids specs and only found that a NADCON
> grid is a bundle including the data AND the software that reads them ... I,
> also, found that there are two files needed (one for longitudes, another
> one for latitudes) and that longitudes/latitudes must be round even values
> ... But, I am not sure of all of that.
>
> On the other hand, PROJ.4 includes a reader for converting lla (ascii) to
> binary ... and lla is mentioned in some web pages.
>
> So, is there "real" specifications for NADCON Grids ? and could someone
> point me to them ?
>
> Sincerely,
> --
> Didier RICHARD, chef du pôle technique Géoportail pour l'IGN
> Institut Geographique National           tel: +33/0 1.43.98.83.23
> 2/4 Avenue Pasteur                       fax: +33/0 1.43.98.80.88
> F-94165 St-Mande Cedex                e-mail: [hidden email]
>
> _______________________________________________
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2/4 Avenue Pasteur                       fax: +33/0 1.43.98.80.88
F-94165 St-Mande Cedex                e-mail: [hidden email]

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Eric Miller

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As far as I know the format is not documented.  NADCON uses two input files per datum adjustment (las / los).  Reportedly a utility program, NADGRD, will convert between an ASCII and the binary representation of the grid files.  So, that might be the route to take.  There's some documentation on the ASCII format on ESRI's website:

http://webhelp.esri.com/arcgisdesktop/9.3/index.cfm?TopicName=Grid-based_methods

The FORTRAN source code could also be consulted.
http://www.ngs.noaa.gov/PC_PROD/NADCON/
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Eric G. Miller
Staff Programmer
CA Dept. of Fish & Game


>>> On 9/9/2009 at 2:04 AM, Richard didier <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I need to produce NADCON grid from our NTV2 grid.
>
> I have searched the web for NADCON grids specs and only found that a NADCON
> grid is a bundle including the data AND the software that reads them ... I,
> also, found that there are two files needed (one for longitudes, another one
>
> for latitudes) and that longitudes/latitudes must be round even values ...
> But, I am not sure of all of that.
>
> On the other hand, PROJ.4 includes a reader for converting lla (ascii) to
> binary ... and lla is mentioned in some web pages.
>
> So, is there "real" specifications for NADCON Grids ? and could someone
> point
> me to them ?
>
> Sincerely,

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