Mutual Understanding on residual vacancy being held under FSS MOU

[Postaltexan]

Mutual Understanding on residual vacancy being held under FSS MOU

http://www.divshare.com/direct/5437101-ae8.pdf

[*SUPERsub*]

this one makes almost as much sense as the last one,...sheesh...talk about vague!

[GEEZ]

Let's all just follow the leader or yellow brick road- we will find the wizard soon.
Busy boards PT- please keep us informed! thanks!!

[PTF'ed]

What I want to know is this:  

What is a "residual" route?  I've been bidding on them since 1990, & where I come from, no one has any doubt about what that word means.  

However, I (#1 PTF) am now being denied a POSTED route that no regular bid on.  They're calling it a "residual."  

Whaddya think about that?  I'm really looking for opinions on this.  

Thanks.

[luv_my_pups]

I think that you should call your steward and ask them, I have no idea where you are located, or what the particulars are in your situtation.  I have heard other offices say they were holding vacant routes for FSS, those routes became vacant because of carriers separating from USPS for whatever reason.  End result, nobody makes regular in that office until FSS happens.  Every office is not effected the same way, we had a PTF make regular May 9.

[PTF'ed]

Not sure if this will post.  I've done nothing BUT talk to both my shop steward & state steward.  They don't even understand the question, keep directing back me to the July 28 MOU (which I already knew about, printed, & took to the postmaster last year).  The September 22 one isn't any more enlightening, either.

 

The question is really simple:  What's the definition of a "residual" route?  But, they don't know, so they keep dancing around and basically doing nothing.  Useless. 

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Date: Sunday, May 24, 2009, 11:13 PM

I think that you should call your steward and ask them, I have no idea where you are located, or what the particulars are in your situtation.  I have heard other offices say they were holding vacant routes for FSS, those routes became vacant because of carriers separating from USPS for whatever reason.  End result, nobody makes regular in that office until FSS happens.  Every office is not effected the same way, we had a PTF make regular May 9.

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[vax]

    It basically means no rcas will be regulars for a long time, if ever, and if they are smart will look for a job now , not when they are not working!

[PTF'ed]

Hey everyone --

Sorry this posted THREE times!!!  I have no idea how that happened.  

PTF'ed

[me]

ouch, i hurt my brain reading that! i think, to paraphrase, it says "subs, you're screwed"!

[Sharon Tobey]

There is nothing vague about it.  The MOU is designed to keep route carriers in their jobs, break up residual vacancies into exsisting routes and PTF's will not see a regular route.  I need to hear from as many PTF's effected by this situation as possible. Action needs to be taken. Call 802 368 7554.

[rsewell]

Let's be clear as to exactly what is happening here. FSS is comming to a bunch of offices across the country. It will impact all the routes in those offices drastically. Ask any carrier that was around when when DPS came online and they'll tell you some stories. Routes being allowed to go way overburdened for years, not allowed to be cut until they were closed out.

Keep in mind, that the original MOU was written the way it was because The NRLCA had no idea how badly FSS will impact our craft. At the time, no time standards were in place on FSS flats. The NALC has said they are looking at about losing about 3000 routes when FSS comes online. We as a craft, are also looking at the posibility of losing routes. Since regular carriers can not be laid off, they need a route to put these excessed carriers. Hence the reason that the residual routes are being held. It's not to screw RCAs, though that is the unintended consequece of this, but they have to put the excessed carrier somewhere.

What this new MOU does, is now lets the Union and the PO look at some of these held routes and release them on a case by case basis. With this, if they decide to release the route from the FSS MOU, then the route gets bidded and thereby a PTF or senior RCA (whichever the case maybe) can become regular.

[Sharon Tobey]

Thanks for your reply,

I am clear about the consolidation and I have no illusion about what
the USPS intentions are.  I just have a few problems.  Both the union
and the USPS are contractually obligated and would be able to follow
the wording of the contract and achieve most of their objectives.  It
is also clear that FSS does not produce the time savings that USPS
once thought,  therefore further consolidation will only lengthen
already long routes.  RCA's will benefit because they will get more
hours in the long run but they lose because there is no interest in
adding career employees.  PTF's are screwed because it clear right now
in our neck of the woods (NE) they will not release any routes.  We
have decided to seek legal advice and try to enforce the language in
the agreement.  I am hoping that others will join us

On 9/19/09, rsewell (via Nabble) <[hidden email]> wrote:

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>
>
> Let's be clear as to exactly what is happening here. FSS is comming to a
> bunch of offices across the country. It will impact all the routes in those
> offices drastically. Ask any carrier that was around when when DPS came
> online and they'll tell you some stories. Routes being allowed to go way
> overburdened for years, not allowed to be cut until they were closed out.
>
> Keep in mind, that the original MOU was written the way it was because The
> NRLCA had no idea how badly FSS will impact our craft. At the time, no time
> standards were in place on FSS flats. The NALC has said they are looking at
> about losing about 3000 routes when FSS comes online. We as a craft, are
> also looking at the posibility of losing routes. Since regular carriers can
> not be laid off, they need a route to put these excessed carriers. Hence the
> reason that the residual routes are being held. It's not to screw RCAs,
> though that is the unintended consequece of this, but they have to put the
> excessed carrier somewhere.
>
> What this new MOU does, is now lets the Union and the PO look at some of
> these held routes and release them on a case by case basis. With this, if
> they decide to release the route from the FSS MOU, then the route gets
> bidded and thereby a PTF or senior RCA (whichever the case maybe) can become
> regular.
>
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[Vax]

   FSS wont create the saveings PO expects, but they will just push the rural into the ground, they want over 60 flats a minute for FSS, just had a fss count, lost three hours to fss but gained in other areas so they couldnt cut my pay yet, if we dont get a good fss agreement we are screwed, and will be working for a lot less money, and thats all management wants less pay for the carrier and more bonus money for them, fss will hurt us dearly, especially in a spring count, with no political mail to hurt the PO, they will save big bucks on us, not city they are still makeing overtime, and have seen them out on the street at 830 pm, even though management takeing bows, and telling us they have city hours in control, only thing in control is poor results for rurals more hours for city at the same time!   My office if counted in feb will all be under 40 hours in 6 days, they have plans only to build back to 40 H and no higher, if you just hit 40h no other rebuild, go under youll only get enough to get the 40 h!