[Moo] New mooshell version quirks

[cbolson]

Having just read this thread:
http://groups.google.com/group/mootools-users/browse_thread/thread/4dd764949eccd1ed?hl=en
where Daniel wrote:
"For others that might have the same problem, I updated the MooShell
snippet but it creates a new entry upon every change ...."

I wanted to comment that personally I find this new behavior rather
annoying.
I preferred it as it was, ie you could save changes or save new.
Now you have to give out a new url each time you make a change :(

I also find the way that the "html", "css" and "javascript" labels are
over the textareas which makes it rather hard to edit/select etc the
text that is right behind them.

I know that I should post my comments directly on Piotr's blog but I
thought I might see what other users in this group thought about the
changes.

Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love mooshell, just not overly keen
on these latest changes.

Chris

[Oskar Krawczyk]

I believe, versioning was disabled temporarily for a valid reason– I'm pretty sure Piotr will re-add the functionality soon.

Regarding the labels overlapping editable areas, I too, find this behavior pretty annoying– which is why I'm using MooShell via Fluid with a bunch of hacks inside a user.js file. We need to convince Piotr to change this annoyance.

Oskar

___

Oskar Krawczyk
http://nouincolor.com

On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 18:41, cbolson <[hidden email]> wrote:

Having just read this thread:
http://groups.google.com/group/mootools-users/browse_thread/thread/4dd764949eccd1ed?hl=en
where Daniel wrote:
"For others that might have the same problem, I updated the MooShell
snippet but it creates a new entry upon every change ...."

I wanted to comment that personally I find this new behavior rather
annoying.
I preferred it as it was, ie you could save changes or save new.
Now you have to give out a new url each time you make a change :(

I also find the way that the "html", "css" and "javascript" labels are
over the textareas which makes it rather hard to edit/select etc the
text that is right behind them.

I know that I should post my comments directly on Piotr's blog but I
thought I might see what other users in this group thought about the
changes.

Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love mooshell, just not overly keen
on these latest changes.

Chris

[Piotr Zalewa]

Yes - I found this problematic as well.
It will probably fade/slide out onFocus and disappear completely

zalun
--
London, UK

[Piotr Zalewa]

I also think it's good to have version of the same snippet.
I removed it as I have to refactor the whole process (it was implemented as a proof of concept and was too buggy to keep it like that)

2009/10/22 Piotr Zalewa <[hidden email]>

Yes - I found this problematic as well.
It will probably fade/slide out onFocus and disappear completely

zalun
--
London, UK

--
London, UK

[cbolson]

Hi there Zalun,
Whilst I have your attention, do you have any plans for users to
create an account in mooshell and "save" their snippets in an account
so as to be able to reference them (ideally being able to give a
descriptive title and maybe the date created).

I realise that this might be out of the scope of what you are trying
to do with this code but personally I would find it very uesful :)

Chris

On Oct 22, 9:08 pm, Piotr Zalewa <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I also think it's good to have version of the same snippet.
> I removed it as I have to refactor the whole process (it was implemented as
> a proof of concept and was too buggy to keep it like that)
>
> 2009/10/22 Piotr Zalewa <[hidden email]>
>
> > Yes - I found this problematic as well.
> > It will probably fade/slide out onFocus and disappear completely
>
> > zalun
> > --
> > London, UK
>
> --
> London, UK

[Piotr Zalewa]

Current list of ideas is here:
http://wiki.github.com/zalun/mooshell/development

I always like new ideas

zalun
--
London, UK

[cbolson]

Excellent, I see that you have it in there :)

You are going to keep yourself busy with that lot!

On Oct 22, 9:19 pm, Piotr Zalewa <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Current list of ideas is here:http://wiki.github.com/zalun/mooshell/development
>
> I always like new ideas
>
> zalun
> --
> London, UK

[anutron]

also, the code is on github. want a feature? fork it, write it, push it.

On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 12:23 PM, cbolson <[hidden email]> wrote:

Excellent, I see that you have it in there :)

You are going to keep yourself busy with that lot!

On Oct 22, 9:19 pm, Piotr Zalewa <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Current list of ideas is here:http://wiki.github.com/zalun/mooshell/development
>
> I always like new ideas
>
> zalun
> --
> London, UK

[Fábio M. Costa]

yeah chris, you should start using it, if you havent already.
You could give patches and contribute with some code, its super easy.


--
Fábio Miranda Costa
Solucione Sistemas
Engenheiro de interface

On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 5:27 PM, Aaron Newton <[hidden email]> wrote:

also, the code is on github. want a feature? fork it, write it, push it.

On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 12:23 PM, cbolson <[hidden email]> wrote:

Excellent, I see that you have it in there :)

You are going to keep yourself busy with that lot!

On Oct 22, 9:19 pm, Piotr Zalewa <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Current list of ideas is here:http://wiki.github.com/zalun/mooshell/development
>
> I always like new ideas
>
> zalun
> --
> London, UK

[cbolson]

I've downloaded a copy but that is as far as I got.
I'm afraid it is out of my league :(
It appears to be written in python, of which I have no experience
(though willing to learn)
But I don't even know what I am supposed to do with it to get it
working, let alone make patches :(

Chris

On Oct 22, 11:51 pm, Fábio M. Costa <[hidden email]> wrote:

> yeah chris, you should start using it, if you havent already.
> You could give patches and contribute with some code, its super easy.
>
> --
> Fábio Miranda Costa
> Solucione Sistemas
> Engenheiro de interface
>
> On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 5:27 PM, Aaron Newton <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > also, the code is on github. want a feature? fork it, write it, push it.
>
> > On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 12:23 PM, cbolson <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> >> Excellent, I see that you have it in there :)
>
> >> You are going to keep yourself busy with that lot!
>
> >> On Oct 22, 9:19 pm, Piotr Zalewa <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >> > Current list of ideas is here:
> >>http://wiki.github.com/zalun/mooshell/development
>
> >> > I always like new ideas
>
> >> > zalun
> >> > --
> >> > London, UK

[Ryan Florence]

Is it a django app?

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 22, 2009, at 5:22 PM, cbolson <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> I've downloaded a copy but that is as far as I got.
> I'm afraid it is out of my league :(
> It appears to be written in python, of which I have no experience
> (though willing to learn)
> But I don't even know what I am supposed to do with it to get it
> working, let alone make patches :(
>
> Chris
>
> On Oct 22, 11:51 pm, Fábio M. Costa <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> yeah chris, you should start using it, if you havent already.
>> You could give patches and contribute with some code, its super easy.
>>
>> --
>> Fábio Miranda Costa
>> Solucione Sistemas
>> Engenheiro de interface
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 5:27 PM, Aaron Newton <[hidden email]>  
>> wrote:
>>> also, the code is on github. want a feature? fork it, write it,  
>>> push it.
>>
>>> On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 12:23 PM, cbolson <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>>>> Excellent, I see that you have it in there :)
>>
>>>> You are going to keep yourself busy with that lot!
>>
>>>> On Oct 22, 9:19 pm, Piotr Zalewa <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>> Current list of ideas is here:
>>>> http://wiki.github.com/zalun/mooshell/development
>>
>>>>> I always like new ideas
>>
>>>>> zalun
>>>>> --
>>>>> London, UK

[Fábio M. Costa]

its a django project.

--
Fábio Miranda Costa
Solucione Sistemas
Engenheiro de interface

On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 8:30 PM, Ryan Florence <[hidden email]> wrote:

Is it a django app?

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 22, 2009, at 5:22 PM, cbolson <[hidden email]> wrote:

I've downloaded a copy but that is as far as I got.
I'm afraid it is out of my league :(
It appears to be written in python, of which I have no experience
(though willing to learn)
But I don't even know what I am supposed to do with it to get it
working, let alone make patches :(

Chris

On Oct 22, 11:51 pm, Fábio M. Costa <[hidden email]> wrote:

yeah chris, you should start using it, if you havent already.
You could give patches and contribute with some code, its super easy.

--
Fábio Miranda Costa
Solucione Sistemas
Engenheiro de interface

On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 5:27 PM, Aaron Newton <[hidden email]> wrote:

also, the code is on github. want a feature? fork it, write it, push it.

On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 12:23 PM, cbolson <[hidden email]> wrote:

Excellent, I see that you have it in there :)

You are going to keep yourself busy with that lot!

On Oct 22, 9:19 pm, Piotr Zalewa <[hidden email]> wrote:

Current list of ideas is here:

http://wiki.github.com/zalun/mooshell/development

I always like new ideas

zalun
--
London, UK

[Sanford Whiteman [Mobile]]

> It appears to be written in python, of which I have no experience
> (though willing to learn)

+1, it would be great if we could port it to Jaxer w/Moo. Seriously, I
would pay for the hosting....

-- Sandy

[Piotr Zalewa]

It's a django app
project is there to simplify home installations

zalun
--
London, UK

[Piotr Zalewa]

BTW
Both origin issues are fixed now

Yeah - Mooshell is working on versions!

zalun
--
London, UK

[Oskar Krawczyk]

Damn straight.

As much as I'd love to contribute some code, Python is just not my  
poison.

On 23 Oct 2009, at 01:24, Sanford Whiteman wrote:

>
>> It appears to be written in python, of which I have no experience
>> (though willing to learn)
>
> +1, it would be great if we could port it to Jaxer w/Moo. Seriously, I
> would pay for the hosting....
>
> -- Sandy
>

[cbolson]

Excellent, "update" and "save new" are back :)
Thanks!

So, it is a django project... due to my ignorance I had to look that
up to see what it was :(
I'm afraid that I am not going to be learning how that works right
now.
Shame, I fancied having a go at playing with the mooshell code.....
maybe I'll have to emultae it in php....


On 23 oct, 03:17, Oskar Krawczyk <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Damn straight.
>
> As much as I'd love to contribute some code, Python is just not my  
> poison.
>
> On 23 Oct 2009, at 01:24, Sanford Whiteman wrote:
>
>
>
> >> It appears to be written in python, of which I have no experience
> >> (though willing to learn)
>
> > +1, it would be great if we could port it to Jaxer w/Moo. Seriously, I
> > would pay for the hosting....
>
> > -- Sandy

[Piotr Zalewa]

I will put a "django noob" installation process doc.
Mostly for people who'd llike to work on UI

zalun
--
London, UK

[Oskar Krawczyk]

++

On 23 Oct 2009, at 14:05, Piotr Zalewa wrote:

> I will put a "django noob" installation process doc.
> Mostly for people who'd llike to work on UI
>
> zalun
> --
> London, UK

[anutron]

I find it's always nice to have an excuse to learn a new programming language. Adding a feature to MooShell is a way for you to add a line to your resume. The Django tutorials and the Python book (online for free) are really awesome. Python isn't that hard to get the hang of (at least the basics).

On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 2:15 AM, cbolson <[hidden email]> wrote:

Excellent, "update" and "save new" are back :)
Thanks!

So, it is a django project... due to my ignorance I had to look that
up to see what it was :(
I'm afraid that I am not going to be learning how that works right
now.
Shame, I fancied having a go at playing with the mooshell code.....
maybe I'll have to emultae it in php....

On 23 oct, 03:17, Oskar Krawczyk <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Damn straight.
>
> As much as I'd love to contribute some code, Python is just not my  
> poison.
>
> On 23 Oct 2009, at 01:24, Sanford Whiteman wrote:
>
>
>
> >> It appears to be written in python, of which I have no experience
> >> (though willing to learn)
>
> > +1, it would be great if we could port it to Jaxer w/Moo. Seriously, I
> > would pay for the hosting....
>
> > -- Sandy