Microsoft office integration

[sreid]

I'm a relative newcomer to Plone and am trying to find the best approach to integrating microsoft office documents (and pdfs) as plone content.

So far I can :
 - upload documents (as plone file type), and have their contents indexed so that they can be found by Plone search.
 - use the zope external editor to allow remote editing of the documents and have them versioned in Plone.

What I would also like to do is :
 - preview the documents within Plone.
 - allow a history comment to be added when saving an externally edited document
 - delete specific older versions of the documents
 - not have to install zope external editor on client. Ideally, click on document url which opens in word (this is standard behaviour), then save document back to same url perhaps using zopes' webdav (with auto versioning of the document) ?

Also, are the document versions in Plone stored as deltas, or as full copies (which could end up taking up a lot of space). Would it be possible to use the likes of subversion / git as the versioning mechanism for plone files instead ?

[Espen Moe-Nilssen]

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For "preview", check out these products:

 ARFilePreview

 AROfficeTransforms

Den 28. okt. 2009 kl. 12.38 skrev sreid:

I'm a relative newcomer to Plone and am trying to find the best approach to

integrating microsoft office documents (and pdfs) as plone content.

So far I can :

 - upload documents (as plone file type), and have their contents indexed so

that they can be found by Plone search.

 - use the zope external editor to allow remote editing of the documents and

have them versioned in Plone.

What I would also like to do is :

 - preview the documents within Plone.

 - allow a history comment to be added when saving an externally edited

document

 - delete specific older versions of the documents

 - not have to install zope external editor on client. Ideally, click on

document url which opens in word (this is standard behaviour), then save

document back to same url perhaps using zopes' webdav (with auto versioning

of the document) ?

Also, are the document versions in Plone stored as deltas, or as full copies

(which could end up taking up a lot of space). Would it be possible to use

the likes of subversion / git as the versioning mechanism for plone files

instead ?

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[Kees Hink]

> What I would also like to do is :
>  - allow a history comment to be added when saving an externally edited
> document
>  - not have to install zope external editor on client. Ideally, click on
> document url which opens in word (this is standard behaviour), then save
> document back to same url perhaps using zopes' webdav (with auto versioning
> of the document) ?
>
> Also, are the document versions in Plone stored as deltas, or as full copies
> (which could end up taking up a lot of space). Would it be possible to use
> the likes of subversion / git as the versioning mechanism for plone files
> instead ?

All this behaviour comes with standard, once you get rid of the idea of storing
documents as 'File' type. Use 'Page' instead: you get versioning, staging,
WYSIWYG editing in the browser. (Why would you even want to use Word or any
other kind of docs?) I'd use my time converting existing docs to default Plone
pages.

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[Martin Aspeli]

sreid wrote:

> I'm a relative newcomer to Plone and am trying to find the best approach to
> integrating microsoft office documents (and pdfs) as plone content.
>
> So far I can :
>  - upload documents (as plone file type), and have their contents indexed so
> that they can be found by Plone search.
>  - use the zope external editor to allow remote editing of the documents and
> have them versioned in Plone.
>
> What I would also like to do is :
>  - preview the documents within Plone.

There are products that do this.

>  - allow a history comment to be added when saving an externally edited
> document
>  - delete specific older versions of the documents
>  - not have to install zope external editor on client. Ideally, click on
> document url which opens in word (this is standard behaviour), then save
> document back to same url perhaps using zopes' webdav (with auto versioning
> of the document) ?

Have you looked into Enfold Desktop?

> Also, are the document versions in Plone stored as deltas, or as full copies

Full copies.

> (which could end up taking up a lot of space). Would it be possible to use
> the likes of subversion / git as the versioning mechanism for plone files
> instead ?

Not without a significant amount of integration work.

Martin

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[sreid]

>> What I would also like to do is :
>>  - preview the documents within Plone.

> There are products that do this.

I've just tried ARFilePreview and AROfficeTransforms. Are these the products you referred to ? Unfortunately, I currently have some issues with rendering of a pdf, as well as some images within word documents.

>>  - allow a history comment to be added when saving an externally edited
>> document
>>  - delete specific older versions of the documents
>>  - not have to install zope external editor on client. Ideally, click on
>> document url which opens in word (this is standard behaviour), then save
>> document back to same url perhaps using zopes' webdav (with auto versioning
>> of the document) ?

> Have you looked into Enfold Desktop?

I'll take a look at Enfold Desktop, but again it requires installing a program. Would it not be a useful feature to do some of this within plone itself - e.g. add actions in history to edit comments, and delete a revision ?

>> (which could end up taking up a lot of space). Would it be possible to use
>> the likes of subversion / git as the versioning mechanism for plone files
>> instead ?

> Not without a significant amount of integration work.

It looks like there's a new alpha product might do something similar for mercurial (which I'm not familiar with) - raptus.mercurialstorage.

Also, I forgot to ask before, are there any products which allow the history diff. feature to work for office files ?