JMapPane vs widgets-swing-pending classes

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I think these questions will mainly be directed to Michael Bedward, but
I thought that the subject might have broader interest, so I put it on
the list.

I wrote an application a while back (using 2.5.1) using the classes in
widgets-swing-pending (e.g. JStreamNavMap, etc.).  At the time, it
appeared to me that these classes were perhaps a bit more robust than
JMapPane.  From recent traffic on the list, it seems that Michael has
taken on the task of updating and maintaining JMapPane.  This leads me
to the following questions...

Are the classes in widgets-swing-pending dead?  I believe they are at
least currently unmaintained.

Are those classes likely to break in 2.6.x?

I believe I had heard previously that JMapPane was intended as more of a
demonstration than an actual usable widget.  Is the goal of Michael's
work to make it more than just a demonstration?

I think that's enough for now.

Matt

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Hi Matt,

Just looked at my computer and saw my name... the virtual equivalent
of your ears burning I suppose :-)

Just a quick reply now, though happy to talk about it more next week
and Jody or others may also chip in...

The widgets-swing-pending is dead I'm afraid. It has been without a
maintainer for some time, is largely undocumented, and has not
attracted any good samaritans willing to revive it.

You're quite right that JMapPane was intended as a demo and in fact we
are using it to support the new GeoTools examples that are taking
shape on the web site. However, it's become a lot more fully featured
than it was a while ago - due in large part to requests and
suggestions from list members. Also, Jody has added a swag of other
useful components to  what is now the gt-swing module.

We've mined useful stuff from the other unmaintained gui modules
(widgets-swing-pending and widgets-swing).

That being said, it's not the intention to offer a comprehensive GUI
framework with all bells and whistles as, I think, was the case with
widgets-swing-pending.

Hope that makes sense and answers your immediate question.

cheers
Michael

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Thanks for the quick reply Michael.  What release would I need to get to
see the latest and greatest that is in the gt-swing module?  Also, will
the gt-swing module be included in the "stock" distro for 2.6.x?

Matt


Michael Bedward wrote:

> Hi Matt,
>
> Just looked at my computer and saw my name... the virtual equivalent
> of your ears burning I suppose :-)
>
> Just a quick reply now, though happy to talk about it more next week
> and Jody or others may also chip in...
>
> The widgets-swing-pending is dead I'm afraid. It has been without a
> maintainer for some time, is largely undocumented, and has not
> attracted any good samaritans willing to revive it.
>
> You're quite right that JMapPane was intended as a demo and in fact we
> are using it to support the new GeoTools examples that are taking
> shape on the web site. However, it's become a lot more fully featured
> than it was a while ago - due in large part to requests and
> suggestions from list members. Also, Jody has added a swag of other
> useful components to  what is now the gt-swing module.
>
> We've mined useful stuff from the other unmaintained gui modules
> (widgets-swing-pending and widgets-swing).
>
> That being said, it's not the intention to offer a comprehensive GUI
> framework with all bells and whistles as, I think, was the case with
> widgets-swing-pending.
>
> Hope that makes sense and answers your immediate question.
>
> cheers
> Michael
>
>  
--
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-- Ralph Waldo Emerson


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Hi Matt:

One thing that may not be clear from Michael's reply is that if you  
have something from the two earlier modules that you can help out and  
bring it forward.

The 2.6-RC1 was made last weekend that includes gt-swing; 2.6.0 will  
probably go out tomorrow. gt-swing will be included in the stock  
distro - and we are making a formal commitment to keep the module  
going - mostly in support of the geotools demonstrations.

What really kicked me over the edge and decide to help out was going  
over example code from previous years and finding 80% of it devoted to  
user interface stuff. My hope that by keeping gt-swing; and indeed  
emphasising gt-swing we can communicate the functionality of the core  
library clearly and succinctly.

Thus far I have been very pleased with the new Quickstart; it offers a  
far better 1st impression of GeoTools then my earlier Shp2Shp effort :-)

Now all of that said gt-swing is not ready to be supported yet; I  
tried a couple weeks ago and the community asked that we increase the  
test coverage.

Jody

On 17/10/2009, at 12:43 AM, Matt Foster wrote:

> Thanks for the quick reply Michael.  What release would I need to  
> get to see the latest and greatest that is in the gt-swing module?  
> Also, will the gt-swing module be included in the "stock" distro for  
> 2.6.x?
>
> Matt
>
>
> Michael Bedward wrote:
>> Hi Matt,
>>
>> Just looked at my computer and saw my name... the virtual equivalent
>> of your ears burning I suppose :-)
>>
>> Just a quick reply now, though happy to talk about it more next week
>> and Jody or others may also chip in...
>>
>> The widgets-swing-pending is dead I'm afraid. It has been without a
>> maintainer for some time, is largely undocumented, and has not
>> attracted any good samaritans willing to revive it.
>>
>> You're quite right that JMapPane was intended as a demo and in fact  
>> we
>> are using it to support the new GeoTools examples that are taking
>> shape on the web site. However, it's become a lot more fully featured
>> than it was a while ago - due in large part to requests and
>> suggestions from list members. Also, Jody has added a swag of other
>> useful components to  what is now the gt-swing module.
>>
>> We've mined useful stuff from the other unmaintained gui modules
>> (widgets-swing-pending and widgets-swing).
>>
>> That being said, it's not the intention to offer a comprehensive GUI
>> framework with all bells and whistles as, I think, was the case with
>> widgets-swing-pending.
>>
>> Hope that makes sense and answers your immediate question.
>>
>> cheers
>> Michael
>>
>>
>
> --
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> and leave a trail.
> -- Ralph Waldo Emerson
>
> <
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