Is kupu-**.po file included from PloneTranslations?

[Takeshi Yamamoto]

I am testing Plone 3.3 rc2.  I found kupu has its own i18n folder in  
their products egg and their po files are obsolete.
I would like to update them with kupu**-ja.po file in  
PloneTranslations' i18n.

I don't know where is place kupu's translation file to be committed.
Does anyone know where is the kupu po files to be committed?

There are many kupu related projects in collectives, but none of them  
seems to be the right one.
I wish they will be automatically synchronized someday.

Best regards.
Takeshi Yamamoto

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[Vincent Fretin]

Hi,

Products.kupu/Products.kupu/i18n is a svn:externals to
https://svn.plone.org/svn/collective/PloneTranslations/trunk/i18n/kupu
So when a new release of Products.kupu is made, it takes translations
from PloneTranslations.
The problem which could arise is that po files from Products.kupu take
precedence over the one from plone.app.locales.
Is is the case? Please verify, but I don't think so.

If you use Products.kupu without plone.app.locales, a new release of
Products.kupu will update those translations.

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On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 7:43 AM, Takeshi Yamamoto <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I am testing Plone 3.3 rc2.  I found kupu has its own i18n folder in
> their products egg and their po files are obsolete.
> I would like to update them with kupu**-ja.po file in
> PloneTranslations' i18n.
>
> I don't know where is place kupu's translation file to be committed.
> Does anyone know where is the kupu po files to be committed?
>
> There are many kupu related projects in collectives, but none of them
> seems to be the right one.
> I wish they will be automatically synchronized someday.
>
> Best regards.
> Takeshi Yamamoto

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[Takeshi Yamamoto]

Hi Vincent,

Thank you very much for prompt reply.

Yes, the precedence is causing my problem.

Is it possible to apply the current PloneTranslations/trunk/i18n/kupu  
po files
to Products.kupu/Products.kupu/i18n regardless to the release timing  
of Kupu?

If its difficult to do it in general way, I appreciate if it could be  
copied for *-ja.po
files as temporary solution.

Best regards.
Takeshi Yamamoto

On May 11, 2009, at 4:38 PM, Vincent Fretin wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Products.kupu/Products.kupu/i18n is a svn:externals to
> https://svn.plone.org/svn/collective/PloneTranslations/trunk/i18n/kupu
> So when a new release of Products.kupu is made, it takes translations
> from PloneTranslations.
> The problem which could arise is that po files from Products.kupu take
> precedence over the one from plone.app.locales.
> Is is the case? Please verify, but I don't think so.
>
> If you use Products.kupu without plone.app.locales, a new release of
> Products.kupu will update those translations.
>
> Regards
> --
> Vincent Fretin
>
>
> On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 7:43 AM, Takeshi Yamamoto <[hidden email]>  
> wrote:
>> I am testing Plone 3.3 rc2.  I found kupu has its own i18n folder in
>> their products egg and their po files are obsolete.
>> I would like to update them with kupu**-ja.po file in
>> PloneTranslations' i18n.
>>
>> I don't know where is place kupu's translation file to be committed.
>> Does anyone know where is the kupu po files to be committed?
>>
>> There are many kupu related projects in collectives, but none of them
>> seems to be the right one.
>> I wish they will be automatically synchronized someday.
>>
>> Best regards.
>> Takeshi Yamamoto

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[Vincent Fretin]

On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 10:03 AM, Takeshi Yamamoto <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Hi Vincent,
>
> Thank you very much for prompt reply.
>
> Yes, the precedence is causing my problem.
Really? Oh yes, you have a problem here.
Products.kupu translations are listed before plone.app.locales one in
Placeless Translation Service

> Is it possible to apply the current PloneTranslations/trunk/i18n/kupu po
> files
> to Products.kupu/Products.kupu/i18n regardless to the release timing of
> Kupu?
I don't see an easy way to do it.
It seems kupu can be used by other projects outside Plone, right? So
removing i18n directory from kupu is a no way in this case.

> If its difficult to do it in general way, I appreciate if it could be copied
> for *-ja.po
> files as temporary solution.
You should create a blocker ticket for Plone 3.3 to make a new release
of Products.kupu, explaining why.
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[Hanno Schlichting-3]

Vincent Fretin wrote:
> Products.kupu/Products.kupu/i18n is a svn:externals to
> https://svn.plone.org/svn/collective/PloneTranslations/trunk/i18n/kupu
> So when a new release of Products.kupu is made, it takes translations
> from PloneTranslations.

I used to remove the kupu folder from the PloneTranslations
distribution, but probably forgot last time.

The files are in a subfolder and so are not parsed or recognized at all
by PlacelessTranslationService.

If you want to update the Kupu files immediately or for testing, just
moving them into the i18n folder of Kupu works.

The proper way to update Kupu translations is indeed to make a new Kupu
release which will then include the latest and greatest of the translations.

Hanno


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[Takeshi Yamamoto]

Thanks for info.

I understood the proper way to make the translation file applied to
Kupu is to make a new release of Kupu.

Is the https://svn.plone.org/svn/collective/PloneTranslations/trunk/i18n/kupu
repository still proper place to commit?   Or somewhere else?

Regards.
Takeshi Yamamoto


On May 11, 2009, at 6:10 PM, Hanno Schlichting wrote:

> Vincent Fretin wrote:
>> Products.kupu/Products.kupu/i18n is a svn:externals to
>> https://svn.plone.org/svn/collective/PloneTranslations/trunk/i18n/ 
>> kupu
>> So when a new release of Products.kupu is made, it takes translations
>> from PloneTranslations.
>
> I used to remove the kupu folder from the PloneTranslations
> distribution, but probably forgot last time.
>
> The files are in a subfolder and so are not parsed or recognized at  
> all
> by PlacelessTranslationService.
>
> If you want to update the Kupu files immediately or for testing, just
> moving them into the i18n folder of Kupu works.
>
> The proper way to update Kupu translations is indeed to make a new  
> Kupu
> release which will then include the latest and greatest of the  
> translations.
>
> Hanno
>
>
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[Maurits van Rees-3]

Takeshi Yamamoto, on 2009-05-11:
> I understood the proper way to make the translation file applied to
> Kupu is to make a new release of Kupu.

Correct.

> Is the https://svn.plone.org/svn/collective/PloneTranslations/trunk/i18n/kupu
> repository still proper place to commit?   Or somewhere else?

That is the correct place.

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[Vincent Fretin]

On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 11:10 AM, Hanno Schlichting
<[hidden email]> wrote:

> Vincent Fretin wrote:
>> Products.kupu/Products.kupu/i18n is a svn:externals to
>> https://svn.plone.org/svn/collective/PloneTranslations/trunk/i18n/kupu
>> So when a new release of Products.kupu is made, it takes translations
>> from PloneTranslations.
>
> I used to remove the kupu folder from the PloneTranslations
> distribution, but probably forgot last time.
>
> The files are in a subfolder and so are not parsed or recognized at all
> by PlacelessTranslationService.

Oh I didn't aware of that. Thanks for the clarification.
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[Takeshi Yamamoto]

Thanks a lot.  Now I see them clearly.

I did submit a ticket to make a release of Kupu.  Let's see how it  
goes.....

Takeshi

On May 11, 2009, at 10:18 PM, Maurits van Rees wrote:

> Takeshi Yamamoto, on 2009-05-11:
>> I understood the proper way to make the translation file applied to
>> Kupu is to make a new release of Kupu.
>
> Correct.
>
>> Is the https://svn.plone.org/svn/collective/PloneTranslations/trunk/i18n/kupu
>> repository still proper place to commit?   Or somewhere else?
>
> That is the correct place.
>
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>
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