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Charlie,

I just read your report, and something struck me - I had no idea there
was a database system for the Edu Inventory, and now that I do, I have
no idea where it is. I don't recall an email on the list(although I just
searched and found it from 2/25), or on OSGeo-Discuss and don't see a
link from the wiki page.
In short I think some more advertising could help, it shouldn't take
long with a few volunteers to move all the existing data over, although
we need to mark things on the wiki page that have been moved to help
alleviate confusion and speed up the process.

As for the SVN issue, I have a fair amount of experience teaching people
who wouldn't otherwise use version control to use svn. There are
actually some really great graphical interfaces to make it much easier.
Tortiosesvn for Windows, esvn for Linux, and I'll have to dig through my
notes to find the Mac application. I'll also have to dig up my slides on
'Intro to SVN' and post them. Lastly, I will also volunteer to put
things into svn for anyone that finds it too challenging.

Thanks,
Alex
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To go along with making it easier to find I'm proposing some minor edits to
http://www.osgeo.org/education

Here's a print out of what I'd like to change it to
http://www.easy-share.com/1904503969/The_OSGeo_Education_and_Curriculum_Project___OSGeo.pdf
Mostly just re-arranging the lists to make them more concise and the
items stand out more.

What do you think?

Thanks,
Alex

Alex Mandel wrote:

> Charlie,
>
> I just read your report, and something struck me - I had no idea there
> was a database system for the Edu Inventory, and now that I do, I have
> no idea where it is. I don't recall an email on the list(although I just
> searched and found it from 2/25), or on OSGeo-Discuss and don't see a
> link from the wiki page.
> In short I think some more advertising could help, it shouldn't take
> long with a few volunteers to move all the existing data over, although
> we need to mark things on the wiki page that have been moved to help
> alleviate confusion and speed up the process.
>
> As for the SVN issue, I have a fair amount of experience teaching people
> who wouldn't otherwise use version control to use svn. There are
> actually some really great graphical interfaces to make it much easier.
> Tortiosesvn for Windows, esvn for Linux, and I'll have to dig through my
> notes to find the Mac application. I'll also have to dig up my slides on
> 'Intro to SVN' and post them. Lastly, I will also volunteer to put
> things into svn for anyone that finds it too challenging.
>
> Thanks,
> Alex
> _______________________________________________
> Edu_discuss mailing list
> [hidden email]
> http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/edu_discuss

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Hi Alex:

Alex Mandel wrote:
> Here's a print out of what I'd like to change it to
> http://www.easy-share.com/1904503969/The_OSGeo_Education_and_Curriculum_Project___OSGeo.pdf
> Mostly just re-arranging the lists to make them more concise and the
> items stand out more.
>  
Great suggestions. Feel free to make the changes. Do you have edit
authority?
> Alex Mandel wrote
>  
> In short I think some more advertising could help, it shouldn't take
> long with a few volunteers to move all the existing data over, although
> we need to mark things on the wiki page that have been moved to help
> alleviate confusion and speed up the process.
>  
Folks - if you have an entry on the old wiki inventory, please

(1) move your metadata information from the old wiki inventory [A] to
the search database [B] and
(3) delete the old entry on the wiki page. [A]
Also,
(4) please consider adding new new updated content to the searchable
database if you have it.
> As for the SVN issue, I have a fair amount of experience teaching people
> who wouldn't otherwise use version control to use svn. There are
> actually some really great graphical interfaces to make it much easier.
> Tortiosesvn for Windows, esvn for Linux, and I'll have to dig through my
> notes to find the Mac application. I'll also have to dig up my slides on
> 'Intro to SVN' and post them. Lastly, I will also volunteer to put
> things into svn for anyone that finds it too challenging.
>  
Thar's a terrific offer Alex. Last year, my colleague wrote up SVN
instruction material using Tortiosesvn for the group, but something went
wrong with the screenshots and we haven't been able to get that
documentation fixed. I can send you what we have if you'd like to work
with that.

Building a system and process as a group that supports the creation of
new educational content from old content is what we should as a group be
striving for.  For instance, translations of tutorials  from one
language to another, or from one software version to another. If we can
get a SVN process documented and some people committed to use it, that
would be a great step forward for us all.

If  you can get the process documented, I'll be happy to try it out. I
have material I'd be happy to make available.

Cheers and thanks Alex!

Charlie


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Alex,

if you could also add command line instructions - something like this
http://skagit.meas.ncsu.edu/~helena/grasswork/grassbookdat07/ 
SVN_HOWTO.txt
(Markus - can this be used for everybody?)

Many people who work with OSGeo projects are already familiar with SVN
so e.g., all I really need is to get the

svn co http:what should i put here
and is there a password

I keep the HOWTO file handy in case I need to do something special,
otherwise cli is fast and easy

thank you,

Helena

On Apr 13, 2009, at 9:05 AM, Charlie Schweik wrote:

> Hi Alex:
>
> Alex Mandel wrote:
>> Here's a print out of what I'd like to change it to
>> http://www.easy-share.com/1904503969/ 
>> The_OSGeo_Education_and_Curriculum_Project___OSGeo.pdf
>> Mostly just re-arranging the lists to make them more concise and the
>> items stand out more.
>>
> Great suggestions. Feel free to make the changes. Do you have edit  
> authority?
>> Alex Mandel wrote
>>   In short I think some more advertising could help, it shouldn't  
>> take
>> long with a few volunteers to move all the existing data over,  
>> although
>> we need to mark things on the wiki page that have been moved to help
>> alleviate confusion and speed up the process.
>>
> Folks - if you have an entry on the old wiki inventory, please
>
> (1) move your metadata information from the old wiki inventory [A]  
> to the search database [B] and
> (3) delete the old entry on the wiki page. [A]
> Also,
> (4) please consider adding new new updated content to the  
> searchable database if you have it.
>> As for the SVN issue, I have a fair amount of experience teaching  
>> people
>> who wouldn't otherwise use version control to use svn. There are
>> actually some really great graphical interfaces to make it much  
>> easier.
>> Tortiosesvn for Windows, esvn for Linux, and I'll have to dig  
>> through my
>> notes to find the Mac application. I'll also have to dig up my  
>> slides on
>> 'Intro to SVN' and post them. Lastly, I will also volunteer to put
>> things into svn for anyone that finds it too challenging.
>>
> Thar's a terrific offer Alex. Last year, my colleague wrote up SVN  
> instruction material using Tortiosesvn for the group, but something  
> went wrong with the screenshots and we haven't been able to get  
> that documentation fixed. I can send you what we have if you'd like  
> to work with that.
>
> Building a system and process as a group that supports the creation  
> of new educational content from old content is what we should as a  
> group be striving for.  For instance, translations of tutorials  
> from one language to another, or from one software version to  
> another. If we can get a SVN process documented and some people  
> committed to use it, that would be a great step forward for us all.
>
> If  you can get the process documented, I'll be happy to try it  
> out. I have material I'd be happy to make available.
>
> Cheers and thanks Alex!
>
> Charlie
>
>
>> Thanks,
>> Alex
>> _______________________________________________
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>> [hidden email]
>> http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/edu_discuss
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 4:19 PM, Helena Mitasova <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Alex,
>
> if you could also add command line instructions - something like this
> http://skagit.meas.ncsu.edu/~helena/grasswork/grassbookdat07/SVN_HOWTO.txt
> (Markus - can this be used for everybody?)

Sure, feel free to recycle the instructions.

> Many people who work with OSGeo projects are already familiar with SVN
> so e.g., all I really need is to get the
>
> svn co http:what should i put here
> and is there a password

Right!

> I keep the HOWTO file handy in case I need to do something special,
> otherwise cli is fast and easy

And for Windows users, there is the TortoiseSVN and other clients,
for Mac... and so forth, see

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Subversion_clients

Markus

> thank you,
>
> Helena
>
> On Apr 13, 2009, at 9:05 AM, Charlie Schweik wrote:
>
>> Hi Alex:
>>
>> Alex Mandel wrote:
>>>
>>> Here's a print out of what I'd like to change it to
>>>
>>> http://www.easy-share.com/1904503969/The_OSGeo_Education_and_Curriculum_Project___OSGeo.pdf
>>> Mostly just re-arranging the lists to make them more concise and the
>>> items stand out more.
>>>
>> Great suggestions. Feel free to make the changes. Do you have edit
>> authority?
>>>
>>> Alex Mandel wrote
>>>  In short I think some more advertising could help, it shouldn't take
>>> long with a few volunteers to move all the existing data over, although
>>> we need to mark things on the wiki page that have been moved to help
>>> alleviate confusion and speed up the process.
>>>
>> Folks - if you have an entry on the old wiki inventory, please
>>
>> (1) move your metadata information from the old wiki inventory [A] to the
>> search database [B] and
>> (3) delete the old entry on the wiki page. [A]
>> Also,
>> (4) please consider adding new new updated content to the searchable
>> database if you have it.
>>>
>>> As for the SVN issue, I have a fair amount of experience teaching people
>>> who wouldn't otherwise use version control to use svn. There are
>>> actually some really great graphical interfaces to make it much easier.
>>> Tortiosesvn for Windows, esvn for Linux, and I'll have to dig through my
>>> notes to find the Mac application. I'll also have to dig up my slides on
>>> 'Intro to SVN' and post them. Lastly, I will also volunteer to put
>>> things into svn for anyone that finds it too challenging.
>>>
>> Thar's a terrific offer Alex. Last year, my colleague wrote up SVN
>> instruction material using Tortiosesvn for the group, but something went
>> wrong with the screenshots and we haven't been able to get that
>> documentation fixed. I can send you what we have if you'd like to work with
>> that.
>>
>> Building a system and process as a group that supports the creation of new
>> educational content from old content is what we should as a group be
>> striving for.  For instance, translations of tutorials  from one language to
>> another, or from one software version to another. If we can get a SVN
>> process documented and some people committed to use it, that would be a
>> great step forward for us all.
>>
>> If  you can get the process documented, I'll be happy to try it out. I
>> have material I'd be happy to make available.
>>
>> Cheers and thanks Alex!
>>
>> Charlie
>>
>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Alex
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Edu_discuss mailing list
>>> [hidden email]
>>> http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/edu_discuss
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/edu_discuss
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Markus Neteler wrote:

> On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 4:19 PM, Helena Mitasova <[hidden email]> wrote:
>  
>> Alex,
>>
>> if you could also add command line instructions - something like this
>> http://skagit.meas.ncsu.edu/~helena/grasswork/grassbookdat07/SVN_HOWTO.txt
>> (Markus - can this be used for everybody?)
>>    
>
> Sure, feel free to recycle the instructions.
Our group's subversion repository is here:
http://svn.osgeo.org/osgeo/education/

A year ago or more, we at UMass put some of our material up there, under
the Releases folder and UMass.

Would be great if others would do the same and if we had some good
instructions available or linked from the educational material
submission page [1].

Could you do this for us Alex?

Obviously, the idea would be that many of us who are willing to allow
new derivatives to be made of our content, to put the material on SVN,
and then link to it in the educational material search database. Some
may recall we tried to do this using Docbook, but I think we should be
willing to accept any document type (Latex, docbook, etc. I'm actually
prefering open office writer because that is so easy for me to edit).

If we can get this system up and running then we probably should return
to a discussion of whether we want to use a standard license to apply to
this content. But let's see first if we can actually get a SVN system
working that people start to use!

Thanks all!

Charlie







[1] https://www.osgeo.org/node/add/edu-content


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> Hi Alex:
>
> Alex Mandel wrote:
>> Here's a print out of what I'd like to change it to
>> http://www.easy-share.com/1904503969/The_OSGeo_Education_and_Curriculum_Project___OSGeo.pdf
>>
>> Mostly just re-arranging the lists to make them more concise and the
>> items stand out more.
>>  
> Great suggestions. Feel free to make the changes. Do you have edit
> authority?

I do now, and the changes have been made. Now on to step 2.
www.osgeo.org/education

Alex

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Charlie and others,

we would like to test the osgeo svn repository as an environment
for collaborative development of osgeoedu materials,
related to TASK B in 2008-2009 Edu initiatives
http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Education_Committee_Work_Program

I have created a new subdirectory NCSU here
http://svn.osgeo.org/osgeo/education/UnderDevelopment/
where we have started to work on GRASS tutorials (the first
is on lidar data processing and elevation time series analysis,
we also plan erosion modeling and others).
We are using very simple css + html which has been
relatively easy to maintain so far and worked for my course material,
as the tutorials are mostly targeted for advanced users who already  
know GIS,
so there are no GUI screenshots (which saves a lot of time).

Once the tutorial is in a decent form we will put it under Releases/NCSU
directory. If all works I can modify our SVN_HOW_TO and post it
on osgeoedu wiki to make it easier for others
to get started and develop their own svn repositories.

I have a few questions (this may be on some website but I don't see it):

1. I have full commit access  to the repository using my osgeo ID
but my students don't - where can they get commit access to
http://svn.osgeo.org/osgeo/education/UnderDevelopment/NCSU
so that they can work on the tutorials?
Do we have a procedure for providing committ access, in case  
additional people
even outside NCSU would like to contribute or fix the material?

2. Would it be possible to set up automated svn emails when something  
is committed
(as we have e.g. for GRASS)? Or it is already there and we just need  
to sign up?

3. Would it be difficult to set up a nice html browser of the source  
repository
to look at the changes, etc. ?

4. Any suggestions are welcome.

Thanks a lot,

Helena


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On Apr 13, 2009, at 3:16 PM, Charlie Schweik wrote:

> Markus Neteler wrote:
>> On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 4:19 PM, Helena Mitasova  
>> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>>> Alex,
>>>
>>> if you could also add command line instructions - something like  
>>> this
>>> http://skagit.meas.ncsu.edu/~helena/grasswork/grassbookdat07/ 
>>> SVN_HOWTO.txt
>>> (Markus - can this be used for everybody?)
>>>
>>
>> Sure, feel free to recycle the instructions.
> Our group's subversion repository is here: http://svn.osgeo.org/ 
> osgeo/education/
>
> A year ago or more, we at UMass put some of our material up there,  
> under the Releases folder and UMass.
>
> Would be great if others would do the same and if we had some good  
> instructions available or linked from the educational material  
> submission page [1].
>
> Could you do this for us Alex?
>
> Obviously, the idea would be that many of us who are willing to  
> allow new derivatives to be made of our content, to put the  
> material on SVN, and then link to it in the educational material  
> search database. Some may recall we tried to do this using Docbook,  
> but I think we should be willing to accept any document type  
> (Latex, docbook, etc. I'm actually prefering open office writer  
> because that is so easy for me to edit).
>
> If we can get this system up and running then we probably should  
> return to a discussion of whether we want to use a standard license  
> to apply to this content. But let's see first if we can actually  
> get a SVN system working that people start to use!
>
> Thanks all!
>
> Charlie
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [1] https://www.osgeo.org/node/add/edu-content
>
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Hello Helena,
I am really looking forward to this.

 > We are using very simple css + html which has been
 > relatively easy to maintain so far and worked for my course material,
 > as the tutorials are mostly targeted for advanced users who already know
 > GIS,
 > so there are no GUI screenshots (which saves a lot of time).
I would like to recommend using Sphinx:
http://sphinx.pocoo.org/

It is used by more and more software projects for documentation:
http://sphinx.pocoo.org/examples.html

The advantage:
* edit the simple text files anywhere
* convert into html, PDF
* ready for equations
* citations, automatic internal references (I have created a rudimentary
bibtex plugin for my works)
* code highlighting
* easy to version
* can be build with python distutils or any other build system

 > Once the tutorial is in a decent form we will put it under Releases/NCSU
 > directory. If all works I can modify our SVN_HOW_TO and post it
 > on osgeoedu wiki to make it easier for others
 > to get started and develop their own svn repositories.
Here is an example of a community written book using Sphinx:
* http://www.mindviewinc.com/Books/Python3Patterns/Index.php
* http://www.artima.com/weblogs/viewpost.jsp?thread=239183
It is maintained in a DVCS:
* http://bitbucket.org/BruceEckel/python-3-patterns-idioms/

Regards,
Timmie
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> * citations, automatic internal references (I have created a rudimentary
> bibtex plugin for my works)
The bibtex example is here:
http://bitbucket.org/birkenfeld/sphinx/issue/63/make-sphinx-read-bibtex-files-for#comment-3397
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Hi Helena,

Helena Mitasova wrote:
> Charlie and others,
>
> I have created a new subdirectory NCSU here
> http://svn.osgeo.org/osgeo/education/UnderDevelopment/
> where we have started to work on GRASS tutorials (the first
> is on lidar data processing and elevation time series analysis,
> we also plan erosion modeling and others).
That is TERRIFIC news!!! Thanks for your leadership here Helena! Moving
toward a new derivative system is
where I believe we should be going!

Unfortunately, I don't have answers to the questions below. Tyler
Mitchell, can you help? -- Charlie Schweik

>
> I have a few questions (this may be on some website but I don't see it):
>
> 1. I have full commit access  to the repository using my osgeo ID
> but my students don't - where can they get commit access to
> http://svn.osgeo.org/osgeo/education/UnderDevelopment/NCSU
> so that they can work on the tutorials?
> Do we have a procedure for providing committ access, in case
> additional people
> even outside NCSU would like to contribute or fix the material?
>
> 2. Would it be possible to set up automated svn emails when something
> is committed
> (as we have e.g. for GRASS)? Or it is already there and we just need
> to sign up?
>
> 3. Would it be difficult to set up a nice html browser of the source
> repository
> to look at the changes, etc. ?
>
> 4. Any suggestions are welcome.

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> I would like to recommend using Sphinx:
> http://sphinx.pocoo.org/
Timmie,

This is a great suggestion. You may recall that about 2 years ago (?)
now my colleagues here at UMass and I were trying to come up with a
recommended process for the OSGeo edu group to create new content. At
that time, we to DocBook, and the system we came up with could also
produce HTML and pdf formats (but not LaTeX, which this appears to do).
But that effort became somewhat complicated, I came to the conclusion
that in order to get content contributions we'd better just go with
whatever format the author wanted to write in. That is, not as a group,
not mandate any one approach or format for fear of losing potential
contributors to our inventory effort.

But in my humble opinion, what would be great is if we as a group
started voluntarily moving toward these kinds of authoring approaches.
I'd like to start a new page off of the education group's page
(http://www.osgeo.org/education) under option 2 (Share educational
content) that describes some recommended authoring techniques.

Timmie, would you be willing to write up a short paragraph for this page
(using perhaps some of the text in your previous emails) recommending
Sphinx as one possible authoring option and its benefits? You could send
it to me and I'll add the page...

Cheers!

Charlie Schweik




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Sorry, I'm on the road.  There is a web tool that any committer can access and apporve other new IDs to be committers.  I don't have the full answer as I'm barely online, but I've sent before to a couple of you.  If you ping someone on IRC, like Frank or Howard (hobu) they can probably know right away.
In the meantime I'll look it up when I next get to my laptop.
Cheers,
Tyler
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Subject: [OSGeo-Edu] Re: OSGeo-Edu SVN repository
From: Charlie Schweik <[hidden email]>
Date: 06/17/2009 1:24 PM

Hi Helena,

Helena Mitasova wrote:
> Charlie and others,
>
> I have created a new subdirectory NCSU here
> http://svn.osgeo.org/osgeo/education/UnderDevelopment/
> where we have started to work on GRASS tutorials (the first
> is on lidar data processing and elevation time series analysis,
> we also plan erosion modeling and others).
That is TERRIFIC news!!! Thanks for your leadership here Helena! Moving
toward a new derivative system is
where I believe we should be going!

Unfortunately, I don't have answers to the questions below. Tyler
Mitchell, can you help? -- Charlie Schweik

>
> I have a few questions (this may be on some website but I don't see it):
>
> 1. I have full commit access  to the repository using my osgeo ID
> but my students don't - where can they get commit access to
> http://svn.osgeo.org/osgeo/education/UnderDevelopment/NCSU
> so that they can work on the tutorials?
> Do we have a procedure for providing committ access, in case
> additional people
> even outside NCSU would like to contribute or fix the material?
>
> 2. Would it be possible to set up automated svn emails when something
> is committed
> (as we have e.g. for GRASS)? Or it is already there and we just need
> to sign up?
>
> 3. Would it be difficult to set up a nice html browser of the source
> repository
> to look at the changes, etc. ?
>
> 4. Any suggestions are welcome.



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Tim,

thanks for the advice on sphinx - I will have the students look into it.

meanwhile I am still trying to figure out how to give them commit  
permissions,
so far this is what I found :

1. They need to get OSGeo user ID here
http://www.osgeo.org/osgeo_userid
https://www.osgeo.org/cgi-bin/ldap_create_user.py

2. Then I should be able add them according to
http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Subversion
using the following form:
https://www.osgeo.org/cgi-bin/auth/ldap_group.py?group=osgeo
But this gives me just a list of current osgeo committers, what am I  
missing here?

3. There is a possibility to give commit permissions only for subproject
by creating and submitting Authz rules to Trac, according to svn wiki
I tried to create such file but I am sure I don't have it right
(e.g. where do I define who is in the group NCSU?
also do I need TICKET_CREATE privileges to submit the request? )

[groups]
committers = @@osgeo@@
NCSU = @@osgeo_edu_NCSU@@

[/]
* = r
@committers = rw

[/osgeo/education/UnderDevelopment/NCSU]
* = r
@committers = rw
@NCSU = rw

Thanks a lot for your help,

Helena


Helena Mitasova
Associate Professor
Department of Marine, Earth
and Atmospheric Sciences
1125 Jordan Hall, Campus Box 8208
North Carolina State University
Raleigh NC 27695-8208
http://skagit.meas.ncsu.edu/~helena/



On Jun 17, 2009, at 4:58 PM, [hidden email] wrote:

> Sorry, I'm on the road.  There is a web tool that any committer can  
> access and apporve other new IDs to be committers.  I don't have  
> the full answer as I'm barely online, but I've sent before to a  
> couple of you.  If you ping someone on IRC, like Frank or Howard  
> (hobu) they can probably know right away.
> In the meantime I'll look it up when I next get to my laptop.
> Cheers,
> Tyler
> -original message-
> Subject: [OSGeo-Edu] Re: OSGeo-Edu SVN repository
> From: Charlie Schweik <[hidden email]>
> Date: 06/17/2009 1:24 PM
>
> Hi Helena,
>
> Helena Mitasova wrote:
>> Charlie and others,
>>
>> I have created a new subdirectory NCSU here
>> http://svn.osgeo.org/osgeo/education/UnderDevelopment/
>> where we have started to work on GRASS tutorials (the first
>> is on lidar data processing and elevation time series analysis,
>> we also plan erosion modeling and others).
> That is TERRIFIC news!!! Thanks for your leadership here Helena!  
> Moving
> toward a new derivative system is
> where I believe we should be going!
>
> Unfortunately, I don't have answers to the questions below. Tyler
> Mitchell, can you help? -- Charlie Schweik
>>
>> I have a few questions (this may be on some website but I don't  
>> see it):
>>
>> 1. I have full commit access  to the repository using my osgeo ID
>> but my students don't - where can they get commit access to
>> http://svn.osgeo.org/osgeo/education/UnderDevelopment/NCSU
>> so that they can work on the tutorials?
>> Do we have a procedure for providing committ access, in case
>> additional people
>> even outside NCSU would like to contribute or fix the material?
>>
>> 2. Would it be possible to set up automated svn emails when something
>> is committed
>> (as we have e.g. for GRASS)? Or it is already there and we just need
>> to sign up?
>>
>> 3. Would it be difficult to set up a nice html browser of the source
>> repository
>> to look at the changes, etc. ?
>>
>> 4. Any suggestions are welcome.
>
>
>
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Helena,

I think the SAC list is the best place to ask.

Markus

On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 5:54 AM, Helena Mitasova<[hidden email]> wrote:

> Tim,
>
> thanks for the advice on sphinx - I will have the students look into it.
>
> meanwhile I am still trying to figure out how to give them commit
> permissions,
> so far this is what I found :
>
> 1. They need to get OSGeo user ID here
> http://www.osgeo.org/osgeo_userid
> https://www.osgeo.org/cgi-bin/ldap_create_user.py
>
> 2. Then I should be able add them according to
> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Subversion
> using the following form:
> https://www.osgeo.org/cgi-bin/auth/ldap_group.py?group=osgeo
> But this gives me just a list of current osgeo committers, what am I missing
> here?
>
> 3. There is a possibility to give commit permissions only for subproject
> by creating and submitting Authz rules to Trac, according to svn wiki
> I tried to create such file but I am sure I don't have it right
> (e.g. where do I define who is in the group NCSU?
> also do I need TICKET_CREATE privileges to submit the request? )
>
> [groups]
> committers = @@osgeo@@
> NCSU = @@osgeo_edu_NCSU@@
>
> [/]
> * = r
> @committers = rw
>
> [/osgeo/education/UnderDevelopment/NCSU]
> * = r
> @committers = rw
> @NCSU = rw
>
> Thanks a lot for your help,
>
> Helena
>
>
> Helena Mitasova
> Associate Professor
> Department of Marine, Earth
> and Atmospheric Sciences
> 1125 Jordan Hall, Campus Box 8208
> North Carolina State University
> Raleigh NC 27695-8208
> http://skagit.meas.ncsu.edu/~helena/
>
>
>
> On Jun 17, 2009, at 4:58 PM, [hidden email] wrote:
>
>> Sorry, I'm on the road.  There is a web tool that any committer can access
>> and apporve other new IDs to be committers.  I don't have the full answer as
>> I'm barely online, but I've sent before to a couple of you.  If you ping
>> someone on IRC, like Frank or Howard (hobu) they can probably know right
>> away.
>> In the meantime I'll look it up when I next get to my laptop.
>> Cheers,
>> Tyler
>> -original message-
>> Subject: [OSGeo-Edu] Re: OSGeo-Edu SVN repository
>> From: Charlie Schweik <[hidden email]>
>> Date: 06/17/2009 1:24 PM
>>
>> Hi Helena,
>>
>> Helena Mitasova wrote:
>>>
>>> Charlie and others,
>>>
>>> I have created a new subdirectory NCSU here
>>> http://svn.osgeo.org/osgeo/education/UnderDevelopment/
>>> where we have started to work on GRASS tutorials (the first
>>> is on lidar data processing and elevation time series analysis,
>>> we also plan erosion modeling and others).
>>
>> That is TERRIFIC news!!! Thanks for your leadership here Helena! Moving
>> toward a new derivative system is
>> where I believe we should be going!
>>
>> Unfortunately, I don't have answers to the questions below. Tyler
>> Mitchell, can you help? -- Charlie Schweik
>>>
>>> I have a few questions (this may be on some website but I don't see it):
>>>
>>> 1. I have full commit access  to the repository using my osgeo ID
>>> but my students don't - where can they get commit access to
>>> http://svn.osgeo.org/osgeo/education/UnderDevelopment/NCSU
>>> so that they can work on the tutorials?
>>> Do we have a procedure for providing committ access, in case
>>> additional people
>>> even outside NCSU would like to contribute or fix the material?
>>>
>>> 2. Would it be possible to set up automated svn emails when something
>>> is committed
>>> (as we have e.g. for GRASS)? Or it is already there and we just need
>>> to sign up?
>>>
>>> 3. Would it be difficult to set up a nice html browser of the source
>>> repository
>>> to look at the changes, etc. ?
>>>
>>> 4. Any suggestions are welcome.
>>
>>
>>
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Helena Mitasova wrote:
> 2. Then I should be able add them according to
> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Subversion
> using the following form:
> https://www.osgeo.org/cgi-bin/auth/ldap_group.py?group=osgeo
> But this gives me just a list of current osgeo committers, what am I
> missing here?

Hi Helena,
Re: the above - there should show an empty box - there you enter the
'new' committer's username.  Have a peek, I think it will make sense the
second time around.

> 3. There is a possibility to give commit permissions only for subproject
> by creating and submitting Authz rules to Trac, according to svn wiki
> I tried to create such file but I am sure I don't have it right
> (e.g. where do I define who is in the group NCSU?
> also do I need TICKET_CREATE privileges to submit the request? )

I'm not sure about it or if there has to be a special group created first ??

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again, to all.
My Sphinx stuff is public...
please see below.

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Datum: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 00:37:35 +0200
Von: Tim Michelsen <[hidden email]>
An: [hidden email]


Hi,

 > I'm catching up on things...


  I took a look at some of this but when I
 > was unzipping it asked me for some passwords for some files.
Strange. I don't even know how to set passwords for ZIPs with Linux.

I pushed it up to:
https://code.launchpad.net/~timmie/+junk/osgeo-edu_sphinxexample

Then just get it with Bazaar or your webbrowser.

 > I was able
 > to read a pdf file though that looks good.
Glad you like it.

 > Is there a "how to" document in there that perhaps was some of the
 > things I couldn't open?
I have been doing this lately for another project. see here:
http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~timmie/web2py/web2py-appdocu/annotate/head%3A/doc/source/docs_contrib.rst


 > I don't think we will be able to *mandate* a process -- but this could
 > be a potential recommended process for document creation. I'm thinking
 > that maybe if you have a "how to" written up, we might post to the OSGeo
 > edu group to see if anyone might want to try out this process, working
 > with the subversion system?
see the repository above.

Sorry, I don't have a lot of time and aren't a EDU person either.

But you may send questions.

Kind regards,
Timmie

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