Inputing Traditional Chinese using HanYu Pinyin method instead of ZhuYin (feature request 2793453)
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ePierre
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Hello,
I've found the Feature Request ID 2793453 (posted on May 19th) very interesting: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=650542&aid=2793453&group_id=108454 I've tried to leave a comment on the SourceForge page, but for some reason it didn't work... Anyway, I would love to be able to input Traditional Chinese using Hanyu Pinyin method. I've been studying Chinese in Taiwan, and I know Bopomofo (ZhuYin), but this method is a pain because, for every single character you input, you must know the right tone, which terribly slows down the typing. I love the "smart pinyin" method, but unfortunately it doesn't work well with Traditional Chinese. A mix of these two things (the Traditional characters from the ZhuYin method and the "smart" typing of the second one) would be wonderful! I think this is how it runs on Microsoft Windows IME: you select "Traditional Chinese", and then set up the input method to use the "HanYu Pinyin keyboard mapping" instead of the bopomofo one, and it works like a charm! I really hope James Su (who's been assigned this) will have a look at it and can provide a solution for it. I totally suck at programming, but if I can be of any other help I would be glad to participate! I've been looking for a solution for years now, and nothing comes up (I tried other input methods, etc.). I don't blame anybody of course! Thanks in advance and remember: if I can be of any help, just tell me! -- Pierre Equoy http://pierre.equoy.free.fr ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july _______________________________________________ Scim-user mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scim-user |
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Rachel Kronick
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Hi Pierre,
As I understand what you're requesting, that's already possible. I use Pinyin to do traditional character input all the time. When you enter the Smart Pinyin method, hit <ctrl+/> (that is, the control and ?/ keys simultaneously). This will cycle through the outputs: in my case, traditional characters, simplified characters, the annoying "中" which does a pointless mix of both, and English. (I've long since asked on this list how to get rid of the 中 option and gotten no response.) Let me know if this doesn't work for you. -- Rachel Kronick Pierre Equoy wrote: > Hello, > > I've found the Feature Request ID 2793453 (posted on May 19th) very interesting: > http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=650542&aid=2793453&group_id=108454 > > I've tried to leave a comment on the SourceForge page, but for some > reason it didn't work... > > Anyway, I would love to be able to input Traditional Chinese using > Hanyu Pinyin method. I've been studying Chinese in Taiwan, and I know > Bopomofo (ZhuYin), but this method is a pain because, for every single > character you input, you must know the right tone, which terribly > slows down the typing. > > I love the "smart pinyin" method, but unfortunately it doesn't work > well with Traditional Chinese. > > A mix of these two things (the Traditional characters from the ZhuYin > method and the "smart" typing of the second one) would be wonderful! > > I think this is how it runs on Microsoft Windows IME: you select > "Traditional Chinese", and then set up the input method to use the > "HanYu Pinyin keyboard mapping" instead of the bopomofo one, and it > works like a charm! > > I really hope James Su (who's been assigned this) will have a look at > it and can provide a solution for it. > I totally suck at programming, but if I can be of any other help I > would be glad to participate! > > I've been looking for a solution for years now, and nothing comes up > (I tried other input methods, etc.). I don't blame anybody of course! > > Thanks in advance and remember: if I can be of any help, just tell me! > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july _______________________________________________ Scim-user mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scim-user |
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ePierre
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Hi Rachel,
sorry for replying so late but I was away from my Ubuntu laptop. I tried your tip, and here is what I got when I try to input "fa guo" (France) without inputing the tones: 简 (which means simplified, not traditional as you told me): 法国 ? (I dont know how to type this character, it probably means traditional?): 法果 中: 法果 英: ｆａｇｕｏ So as a result, when I want to enter "French country" in traditional, I get "French fruit" :) Would you have any recommendation? It pisses me off because I really can't type Chinese properly on Ubuntu whereas I was able to do that on Windows (and I *really* dont want to get back to Windows at all :)) On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 1:01 AM, Rachel Kronick <[hidden email]> wrote: > Hi Pierre, > > As I understand what you're requesting, that's already possible. I use > Pinyin to do traditional character input all the time. > > When you enter the Smart Pinyin method, hit <ctrl+/> (that is, the > control and ?/ keys simultaneously). This will cycle through the > outputs: in my case, traditional characters, simplified characters, the > annoying "中" which does a pointless mix of both, and English. (I've > long since asked on this list how to get rid of the 中 option and gotten > no response.) > > Let me know if this doesn't work for you. > > -- Rachel Kronick > > Pierre Equoy wrote: >> Hello, >> >> I've found the Feature Request ID 2793453 (posted on May 19th) very interesting: >> http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=650542&aid=2793453&group_id=108454 >> >> I've tried to leave a comment on the SourceForge page, but for some >> reason it didn't work... >> >> Anyway, I would love to be able to input Traditional Chinese using >> Hanyu Pinyin method. I've been studying Chinese in Taiwan, and I know >> Bopomofo (ZhuYin), but this method is a pain because, for every single >> character you input, you must know the right tone, which terribly >> slows down the typing. >> >> I love the "smart pinyin" method, but unfortunately it doesn't work >> well with Traditional Chinese. >> >> A mix of these two things (the Traditional characters from the ZhuYin >> method and the "smart" typing of the second one) would be wonderful! >> >> I think this is how it runs on Microsoft Windows IME: you select >> "Traditional Chinese", and then set up the input method to use the >> "HanYu Pinyin keyboard mapping" instead of the bopomofo one, and it >> works like a charm! >> >> I really hope James Su (who's been assigned this) will have a look at >> it and can provide a solution for it. >> I totally suck at programming, but if I can be of any other help I >> would be glad to participate! >> >> I've been looking for a solution for years now, and nothing comes up >> (I tried other input methods, etc.). I don't blame anybody of course! >> >> Thanks in advance and remember: if I can be of any help, just tell me! >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day > trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on > what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with > Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july > _______________________________________________ > Scim-user mailing list > [hidden email] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scim-user > -- Pierre Equoy http://pierre.equoy.free.fr ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Come build with us! The BlackBerry® Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9-12, 2009. Register now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconf _______________________________________________ Scim-user mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scim-user |
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I'm really struggling with SCIM. How does one "Enter the Smart Pinyin Method?"Ｉcan find the Smart Pinyin in the setup screen, but not in the toolbox. |
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Rachel Kronick
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Hi Pierre,
Sorry, I didn't see your response. I don't watch this list very closely. You're almost there. When SCIM shows "法果" under the possibilities for /faguo/, there should be a number 1 next to that (erroneous) word. Below should be the single character 法 with a 2 (or other number) next to it. Hit the 2 (or other appropriate) key (the regular key, not the one on your number pad); that should choose 法 as an input. SCIM should then automatically show you possibilities for /guo/; 國 should be the first or second possibility. Hit the number key for whichever possibility is 國. Wherever you had your cursor, you should now have 法國 entered as text. The next time you use SCIM in Traditional Chinese mode and enter 法國, then that word should show up as the first or second choice. Enter 1 or 2 (as appropriate) for the word. (This is the "intelligent" part of the input system.) If you accidentally enter, for example, 發國 instead of 法國, then 發國 will start showing up as a choice. For example, because I just entered 發國, SCIM now thinks it's a word that I want to use and puts it at the top of my choice list. SCIM has no way of knowing I made a mistake when entering that word. To eliminate a word from your user dictionary, and thus from appearing in the choice list, scroll down with your arrow keys to highlight the incorrect word and then hit CTRL+D. That should delete it from your user dictionary -- usually. SCIM is very difficult regarding some traditional character combinations and refuses to forget them. (I think the maintainer is biased against traditional Chinese and doesn't have an interest in making the traditional dictionaries very accurate.) The strange character you didn't know is probably 繁 fán, which is short for 繁體 fántǐ "traditional script [character]". I hope this helps. It's hard to explain this process. Let me know if you would like clarification on anything. -- Rachel Pierre Equoy wrote: > Hi Rachel, > > sorry for replying so late but I was away from my Ubuntu laptop. > > I tried your tip, and here is what I got when I try to input "fa guo" > (France) without inputing the tones: > > 简 (which means simplified, not traditional as you told me): 法国 > ? (I dont know how to type this character, it probably means traditional?): 法果 > 中: 法果 > 英: ｆａｇｕｏ > > > So as a result, when I want to enter "French country" in traditional, > I get "French fruit" :) > > > Would you have any recommendation? It pisses me off because I really > can't type Chinese properly on Ubuntu whereas I was able to do that on > Windows (and I *really* dont want to get back to Windows at all :)) > > > On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 1:01 AM, Rachel Kronick > <[hidden email]> wrote: >> Hi Pierre, >> >> As I understand what you're requesting, that's already possible. I use >> Pinyin to do traditional character input all the time. >> >> When you enter the Smart Pinyin method, hit <ctrl+/> (that is, the >> control and ?/ keys simultaneously). This will cycle through the >> outputs: in my case, traditional characters, simplified characters, the >> annoying "中" which does a pointless mix of both, and English. (I've >> long since asked on this list how to get rid of the 中 option and gotten >> no response.) >> >> Let me know if this doesn't work for you. >> >> -- Rachel Kronick >> >> Pierre Equoy wrote: >>> Hello, >>> >>> I've found the Feature Request ID 2793453 (posted on May 19th) very interesting: >>> http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=650542&aid=2793453&group_id=108454 >>> >>> I've tried to leave a comment on the SourceForge page, but for some >>> reason it didn't work... >>> >>> Anyway, I would love to be able to input Traditional Chinese using >>> Hanyu Pinyin method. I've been studying Chinese in Taiwan, and I know >>> Bopomofo (ZhuYin), but this method is a pain because, for every single >>> character you input, you must know the right tone, which terribly >>> slows down the typing. >>> >>> I love the "smart pinyin" method, but unfortunately it doesn't work >>> well with Traditional Chinese. >>> >>> A mix of these two things (the Traditional characters from the ZhuYin >>> method and the "smart" typing of the second one) would be wonderful! >>> >>> I think this is how it runs on Microsoft Windows IME: you select >>> "Traditional Chinese", and then set up the input method to use the >>> "HanYu Pinyin keyboard mapping" instead of the bopomofo one, and it >>> works like a charm! >>> >>> I really hope James Su (who's been assigned this) will have a look at >>> it and can provide a solution for it. >>> I totally suck at programming, but if I can be of any other help I >>> would be glad to participate! >>> >>> I've been looking for a solution for years now, and nothing comes up >>> (I tried other input methods, etc.). I don't blame anybody of course! >>> >>> Thanks in advance and remember: if I can be of any help, just tell me! >>> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day >> trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on >> what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with >> Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july >> _______________________________________________ >> Scim-user mailing list >> [hidden email] >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scim-user >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Come build with us! The BlackBerry® Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9-12, 2009. 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David Oftedal
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There's also an alternative method available, which is to use the
scim-chewing package and elect to use Hanyu Pinyin in the options dialogue. The scim-chewing method is fairly intelligent when it comes to selecting words and phrases, but it has a major drawback: It requires the user to enter a tone for each and every syllable using the number keys. If one attempts to type without tones, it produces some garbage and stops responding, so I actually thought scim-chewing to be defective for a long time. It's quite possible that the source code could be modified so as to pretend all syllables are toneless, leaving the other selection mechanisms as the only methods of distinguishing syllables. I think this might improve scim-chewing considerably, but unfortunately I haven't had time to look at the source code to try to guess where such a patch would applied. For the time being, though, scim-chewing is an acceptable solution. Here's an obscure phrase, the name of a particular university dorm in Japan: "bei3hai3dao4dong1hai3da4xue2guo2ji4jiao1liu2hui4guan3". It's rendered correctly as "北海道東海大學國際交流會館" in one go. If it could make such good guesses while ignoring tones, it would be superb. On Sat, 26 Sep 2009 04:29:44 -0500 Rachel Kronick <[hidden email]> wrote: > Hi Pierre, > > Sorry, I didn't see your response. I don't watch this list very > closely. > > You're almost there. When SCIM shows "法果" under the possibilities > for /faguo/, there should be a number 1 next to that (erroneous) > word. Below should be the single character 法 with a 2 (or other > number) next to it. Hit the 2 (or other appropriate) key (the regular > key, not the one on your number pad); that should choose 法 as an > input. SCIM should then automatically show you possibilities > for /guo/; 國 should be the first or second possibility. Hit the > number key for whichever possibility is 國. Wherever you had your > cursor, you should now have 法國 entered as text. > > The next time you use SCIM in Traditional Chinese mode and enter > 法國, then that word should show up as the first or second choice. > Enter 1 or 2 (as appropriate) for the word. (This is the > "intelligent" part of the input system.) > > If you accidentally enter, for example, 發國 instead of 法國, then > 發國 will start showing up as a choice. For example, because I just > entered 發國, SCIM now thinks it's a word that I want to use and puts > it at the top of my choice list. SCIM has no way of knowing I made a > mistake when entering that word. > > To eliminate a word from your user dictionary, and thus from > appearing in the choice list, scroll down with your arrow keys to > highlight the incorrect word and then hit CTRL+D. That should delete > it from your user dictionary -- usually. SCIM is very difficult > regarding some traditional character combinations and refuses to > forget them. (I think the maintainer is biased against traditional > Chinese and doesn't have an interest in making the traditional > dictionaries very accurate.) > > The strange character you didn't know is probably 繁 fán, which is > short for 繁體 fántǐ "traditional script [character]". > > I hope this helps. It's hard to explain this process. Let me know if > you would like clarification on anything. > > -- Rachel > > > > Pierre Equoy wrote: > > Hi Rachel, > > > > sorry for replying so late but I was away from my Ubuntu laptop. > > > > I tried your tip, and here is what I got when I try to input "fa > > guo" (France) without inputing the tones: > > > > 简 (which means simplified, not traditional as you told me): 法国 > > ? (I dont know how to type this character, it probably means > > traditional?): 法果中: 法果 > > 英: ｆａｇｕｏ > > > > > > So as a result, when I want to enter "French country" in > > traditional, I get "French fruit" :) > > > > > > Would you have any recommendation? It pisses me off because I really > > can't type Chinese properly on Ubuntu whereas I was able to do that > > on Windows (and I *really* dont want to get back to Windows at > > all :)) > > > > > > On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 1:01 AM, Rachel Kronick > > <[hidden email]> wrote: > >> Hi Pierre, > >> > >> As I understand what you're requesting, that's already possible. I > >> use Pinyin to do traditional character input all the time. > >> > >> When you enter the Smart Pinyin method, hit <ctrl+/> (that is, the > >> control and ?/ keys simultaneously). This will cycle through the > >> outputs: in my case, traditional characters, simplified > >> characters, the annoying "中" which does a pointless mix of both, > >> and English. (I've long since asked on this list how to get rid of > >> the 中 option and gotten no response.) > >> > >> Let me know if this doesn't work for you. > >> > >> -- Rachel Kronick > >> > >> Pierre Equoy wrote: > >>> Hello, > >>> > >>> I've found the Feature Request ID 2793453 (posted on May 19th) > >>> very interesting: > >>> http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=650542&aid=2793453&group_id=108454 > >>> > >>> I've tried to leave a comment on the SourceForge page, but for > >>> some reason it didn't work... > >>> > >>> Anyway, I would love to be able to input Traditional Chinese using > >>> Hanyu Pinyin method. I've been studying Chinese in Taiwan, and I > >>> know Bopomofo (ZhuYin), but this method is a pain because, for > >>> every single character you input, you must know the right tone, > >>> which terribly slows down the typing. > >>> > >>> I love the "smart pinyin" method, but unfortunately it doesn't > >>> work well with Traditional Chinese. > >>> > >>> A mix of these two things (the Traditional characters from the > >>> ZhuYin method and the "smart" typing of the second one) would be > >>> wonderful! > >>> > >>> I think this is how it runs on Microsoft Windows IME: you select > >>> "Traditional Chinese", and then set up the input method to use the > >>> "HanYu Pinyin keyboard mapping" instead of the bopomofo one, and > >>> it works like a charm! > >>> > >>> I really hope James Su (who's been assigned this) will have a > >>> look at it and can provide a solution for it. > >>> I totally suck at programming, but if I can be of any other help I > >>> would be glad to participate! > >>> > >>> I've been looking for a solution for years now, and nothing comes > >>> up (I tried other input methods, etc.). I don't blame anybody of > >>> course! > >>> > >>> Thanks in advance and remember: if I can be of any help, just > >>> tell me! > >>> > >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >> Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports > >> 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and > >> deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application > >> coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. > >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july > >> _______________________________________________ Scim-user mailing > >> list [hidden email] > >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scim-user > >> > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Come build with us! The BlackBerry® Developer Conference in SF, CA > is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart > your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market > and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9-12, 2009. > Register now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconf > _______________________________________________ > Scim-user mailing list > [hidden email] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scim-user ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Come build with us! The BlackBerry® Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9-12, 2009. Register now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconf _______________________________________________ Scim-user mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scim-user |
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David Oftedal
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By the way, I had a look at the data files for libchewing, which
scim-chewing uses, and it appears as though the tones are hardcoded in libchewing. I was able to remove the tone marks from libchewing's index and get it to compile, after removing some duplicate (except for frequency data) and otherwise invalid lines resulting from the absence of the tone marks. There were two remaining problems: The data for single characters, as opposed to phrases, are in a separate file, so single characters still had to be input with tones. No doubt, this other file can also be altered. The other problem was that I had to hit space between each syllable to delimit the syllables. Needless to say, this diminishes the usefulness of removing the tones in the first place. Before I could look at the data for the single characters, I had created some sort of conflict between different chewing installations, and had to delete libchewing to keep SCIM from crashing. However, it would seem that Chewing functions relatively well wihout tones, so if we or the developers of libchewing can resolve the remaining problems at some point, then scim-chewing might be the way to go. - David Oftedal > On Sat, 26 Sep 2009 04:29:44 -0500 > Rachel Kronick <[hidden email]> wrote: > > > Hi Pierre, > > > > Sorry, I didn't see your response. I don't watch this list very > > closely. > > > > You're almost there. When SCIM shows "法果" under the possibilities > > for /faguo/, there should be a number 1 next to that (erroneous) > > word. Below should be the single character 法 with a 2 (or other > > number) next to it. Hit the 2 (or other appropriate) key (the > > regular key, not the one on your number pad); that should choose 法 > > as an input. SCIM should then automatically show you possibilities > > for /guo/; 國 should be the first or second possibility. Hit the > > number key for whichever possibility is 國. Wherever you had your > > cursor, you should now have 法國 entered as text. > > > > The next time you use SCIM in Traditional Chinese mode and enter > > 法國, then that word should show up as the first or second choice. > > Enter 1 or 2 (as appropriate) for the word. (This is the > > "intelligent" part of the input system.) > > > > If you accidentally enter, for example, 發國 instead of 法國, then > > 發國 will start showing up as a choice. For example, because I just > > entered 發國, SCIM now thinks it's a word that I want to use and > > puts it at the top of my choice list. SCIM has no way of knowing I > > made a mistake when entering that word. > > > > To eliminate a word from your user dictionary, and thus from > > appearing in the choice list, scroll down with your arrow keys to > > highlight the incorrect word and then hit CTRL+D. That should delete > > it from your user dictionary -- usually. SCIM is very difficult > > regarding some traditional character combinations and refuses to > > forget them. (I think the maintainer is biased against traditional > > Chinese and doesn't have an interest in making the traditional > > dictionaries very accurate.) > > > > The strange character you didn't know is probably 繁 fán, which is > > short for 繁體 fántǐ "traditional script [character]". > > > > I hope this helps. It's hard to explain this process. Let me know if > > you would like clarification on anything. > > > > -- Rachel > > > > > > > > Pierre Equoy wrote: > > > Hi Rachel, > > > > > > sorry for replying so late but I was away from my Ubuntu laptop. > > > > > > I tried your tip, and here is what I got when I try to input "fa > > > guo" (France) without inputing the tones: > > > > > > 简 (which means simplified, not traditional as you told me): 法国 > > > ? (I dont know how to type this character, it probably means > > > traditional?): 法果中: 法果 > > > 英: ｆａｇｕｏ > > > > > > > > > So as a result, when I want to enter "French country" in > > > traditional, I get "French fruit" :) > > > > > > > > > Would you have any recommendation? It pisses me off because I > > > really can't type Chinese properly on Ubuntu whereas I was able > > > to do that on Windows (and I *really* dont want to get back to > > > Windows at all :)) > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 1:01 AM, Rachel Kronick > > > <[hidden email]> wrote: > > >> Hi Pierre, > > >> > > >> As I understand what you're requesting, that's already possible. > > >> I use Pinyin to do traditional character input all the time. > > >> > > >> When you enter the Smart Pinyin method, hit <ctrl+/> (that is, > > >> the control and ?/ keys simultaneously). This will cycle through > > >> the outputs: in my case, traditional characters, simplified > > >> characters, the annoying "中" which does a pointless mix of both, > > >> and English. (I've long since asked on this list how to get rid > > >> of the 中 option and gotten no response.) > > >> > > >> Let me know if this doesn't work for you. > > >> > > >> -- Rachel Kronick > > >> > > >> Pierre Equoy wrote: > > >>> Hello, > > >>> > > >>> I've found the Feature Request ID 2793453 (posted on May 19th) > > >>> very interesting: > > >>> http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=650542&aid=2793453&group_id=108454 > > >>> > > >>> I've tried to leave a comment on the SourceForge page, but for > > >>> some reason it didn't work... > > >>> > > >>> Anyway, I would love to be able to input Traditional Chinese > > >>> using Hanyu Pinyin method. I've been studying Chinese in > > >>> Taiwan, and I know Bopomofo (ZhuYin), but this method is a pain > > >>> because, for every single character you input, you must know > > >>> the right tone, which terribly slows down the typing. > > >>> > > >>> I love the "smart pinyin" method, but unfortunately it doesn't > > >>> work well with Traditional Chinese. > > >>> > > >>> A mix of these two things (the Traditional characters from the > > >>> ZhuYin method and the "smart" typing of the second one) would be > > >>> wonderful! > > >>> > > >>> I think this is how it runs on Microsoft Windows IME: you select > > >>> "Traditional Chinese", and then set up the input method to use > > >>> the "HanYu Pinyin keyboard mapping" instead of the bopomofo > > >>> one, and it works like a charm! > > >>> > > >>> I really hope James Su (who's been assigned this) will have a > > >>> look at it and can provide a solution for it. > > >>> I totally suck at programming, but if I can be of any other > > >>> help I would be glad to participate! > > >>> > > >>> I've been looking for a solution for years now, and nothing > > >>> comes up (I tried other input methods, etc.). I don't blame > > >>> anybody of course! > > >>> > > >>> Thanks in advance and remember: if I can be of any help, just > > >>> tell me! > > >>> > > >> > > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > >> Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports > > >> 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and > > >> deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application > > >> coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. > > >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july > > >> _______________________________________________ Scim-user mailing > > >> list [hidden email] > > >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scim-user > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Come build with us! The BlackBerry® Developer Conference in SF, > > CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. > > Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile > > applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from > > November 9-12, 2009. Register now! > > http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconf > > _______________________________________________ Scim-user mailing > > list [hidden email] > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scim-user ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Come build with us! The BlackBerry® Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9-12, 2009. Register now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconf _______________________________________________ Scim-user mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scim-user |
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ePierre
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by Rachel Kronick
Hi Rachel,
I tried your method and it seems to work fine! I will try to use it for a while in order to make the smart system better, and we'll see! On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 5:29 PM, Rachel Kronick <[hidden email]> wrote: > Hi Pierre, > > Sorry, I didn't see your response. I don't watch this list very closely. > > You're almost there. When SCIM shows "法果" under the possibilities for > /faguo/, there should be a number 1 next to that (erroneous) word. Below > should be the single character 法 with a 2 (or other number) next to it. > Hit the 2 (or other appropriate) key (the regular key, not the one on > your number pad); that should choose 法 as an input. SCIM should then > automatically show you possibilities for /guo/; 國 should be the first > or second possibility. Hit the number key for whichever possibility is > 國. Wherever you had your cursor, you should now have 法國 entered as text. > > The next time you use SCIM in Traditional Chinese mode and enter 法國, > then that word should show up as the first or second choice. Enter 1 or > 2 (as appropriate) for the word. (This is the "intelligent" part of the > input system.) > > If you accidentally enter, for example, 發國 instead of 法國, then 發國 > will start showing up as a choice. For example, because I just entered > 發國, SCIM now thinks it's a word that I want to use and puts it at the > top of my choice list. SCIM has no way of knowing I made a mistake when > entering that word. > > To eliminate a word from your user dictionary, and thus from appearing > in the choice list, scroll down with your arrow keys to highlight the > incorrect word and then hit CTRL+D. That should delete it from your user > dictionary -- usually. SCIM is very difficult regarding some traditional > character combinations and refuses to forget them. (I think the > maintainer is biased against traditional Chinese and doesn't have an > interest in making the traditional dictionaries very accurate.) > > The strange character you didn't know is probably 繁 fán, which is short > for 繁體 fántǐ "traditional script [character]". > > I hope this helps. It's hard to explain this process. Let me know if you > would like clarification on anything. > > -- Rachel > > > > Pierre Equoy wrote: >> Hi Rachel, >> >> sorry for replying so late but I was away from my Ubuntu laptop. >> >> I tried your tip, and here is what I got when I try to input "fa guo" >> (France) without inputing the tones: >> >> 简 (which means simplified, not traditional as you told me): 法国 >> ? (I dont know how to type this character, it probably means traditional?): 法果 >> 中: 法果 >> 英: ｆａｇｕｏ >> >> >> So as a result, when I want to enter "French country" in traditional, >> I get "French fruit" :) >> >> >> Would you have any recommendation? It pisses me off because I really >> can't type Chinese properly on Ubuntu whereas I was able to do that on >> Windows (and I *really* dont want to get back to Windows at all :)) >> >> >> On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 1:01 AM, Rachel Kronick >> <[hidden email]> wrote: >>> Hi Pierre, >>> >>> As I understand what you're requesting, that's already possible. I use >>> Pinyin to do traditional character input all the time. >>> >>> When you enter the Smart Pinyin method, hit <ctrl+/> (that is, the >>> control and ?/ keys simultaneously). This will cycle through the >>> outputs: in my case, traditional characters, simplified characters, the >>> annoying "中" which does a pointless mix of both, and English. (I've >>> long since asked on this list how to get rid of the 中 option and gotten >>> no response.) >>> >>> Let me know if this doesn't work for you. >>> >>> -- Rachel Kronick >>> >>> Pierre Equoy wrote: >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> I've found the Feature Request ID 2793453 (posted on May 19th) very interesting: >>>> http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=650542&aid=2793453&group_id=108454 >>>> >>>> I've tried to leave a comment on the SourceForge page, but for some >>>> reason it didn't work... >>>> >>>> Anyway, I would love to be able to input Traditional Chinese using >>>> Hanyu Pinyin method. I've been studying Chinese in Taiwan, and I know >>>> Bopomofo (ZhuYin), but this method is a pain because, for every single >>>> character you input, you must know the right tone, which terribly >>>> slows down the typing. >>>> >>>> I love the "smart pinyin" method, but unfortunately it doesn't work >>>> well with Traditional Chinese. >>>> >>>> A mix of these two things (the Traditional characters from the ZhuYin >>>> method and the "smart" typing of the second one) would be wonderful! >>>> >>>> I think this is how it runs on Microsoft Windows IME: you select >>>> "Traditional Chinese", and then set up the input method to use the >>>> "HanYu Pinyin keyboard mapping" instead of the bopomofo one, and it >>>> works like a charm! >>>> >>>> I really hope James Su (who's been assigned this) will have a look at >>>> it and can provide a solution for it. >>>> I totally suck at programming, but if I can be of any other help I >>>> would be glad to participate! >>>> >>>> I've been looking for a solution for years now, and nothing comes up >>>> (I tried other input methods, etc.). I don't blame anybody of course! >>>> >>>> Thanks in advance and remember: if I can be of any help, just tell me! >>>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day >>> trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on >>> what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with >>> Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Scim-user mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scim-user >>> >> >> >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Come build with us! The BlackBerry® Developer Conference in SF, CA > is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your > developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay > ahead of the curve. 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by David Oftedal
Hello David,
yes, my main problem was the tone input. It's an horrible waste of time for me since I don't know every single tone of every single word (especially the ones you're used to say in daily-life-used sentences). I don't know what solution would be the best, though, since Smart Pinyin could work well if it just displayed tradi char instead of simplified ones... On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 9:26 PM, David Oftedal <[hidden email]> wrote: > By the way, I had a look at the data files for libchewing, which > scim-chewing uses, and it appears as though the tones are hardcoded in > libchewing. > > I was able to remove the tone marks from libchewing's index and get it > to compile, after removing some duplicate (except for frequency data) > and otherwise invalid lines resulting from the absence of the tone > marks. > > There were two remaining problems: The data for single characters, as > opposed to phrases, are in a separate file, so single characters still > had to be input with tones. No doubt, this other file can also be > altered. > > The other problem was that I had to hit space between each syllable to > delimit the syllables. Needless to say, this diminishes the usefulness > of removing the tones in the first place. > > Before I could look at the data for the single characters, I had > created some sort of conflict between different chewing > installations, and had to delete libchewing to keep SCIM from crashing. > > However, it would seem that Chewing functions relatively well wihout > tones, so if we or the developers of libchewing can resolve the > remaining problems at some point, then scim-chewing might be the way > to go. > > - David Oftedal > >> On Sat, 26 Sep 2009 04:29:44 -0500 >> Rachel Kronick <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >> > Hi Pierre, >> > >> > Sorry, I didn't see your response. I don't watch this list very >> > closely. >> > >> > You're almost there. When SCIM shows "法果" under the possibilities >> > for /faguo/, there should be a number 1 next to that (erroneous) >> > word. Below should be the single character 法 with a 2 (or other >> > number) next to it. Hit the 2 (or other appropriate) key (the >> > regular key, not the one on your number pad); that should choose 法 >> > as an input. SCIM should then automatically show you possibilities >> > for /guo/; 國 should be the first or second possibility. Hit the >> > number key for whichever possibility is 國. Wherever you had your >> > cursor, you should now have 法國 entered as text. >> > >> > The next time you use SCIM in Traditional Chinese mode and enter >> > 法國, then that word should show up as the first or second choice. >> > Enter 1 or 2 (as appropriate) for the word. (This is the >> > "intelligent" part of the input system.) >> > >> > If you accidentally enter, for example, 發國 instead of 法國, then >> > 發國 will start showing up as a choice. For example, because I just >> > entered 發國, SCIM now thinks it's a word that I want to use and >> > puts it at the top of my choice list. SCIM has no way of knowing I >> > made a mistake when entering that word. >> > >> > To eliminate a word from your user dictionary, and thus from >> > appearing in the choice list, scroll down with your arrow keys to >> > highlight the incorrect word and then hit CTRL+D. That should delete >> > it from your user dictionary -- usually. SCIM is very difficult >> > regarding some traditional character combinations and refuses to >> > forget them. (I think the maintainer is biased against traditional >> > Chinese and doesn't have an interest in making the traditional >> > dictionaries very accurate.) >> > >> > The strange character you didn't know is probably 繁 fán, which is >> > short for 繁體 fántǐ "traditional script [character]". >> > >> > I hope this helps. It's hard to explain this process. Let me know if >> > you would like clarification on anything. >> > >> > -- Rachel >> > >> > >> > >> > Pierre Equoy wrote: >> > > Hi Rachel, >> > > >> > > sorry for replying so late but I was away from my Ubuntu laptop. >> > > >> > > I tried your tip, and here is what I got when I try to input "fa >> > > guo" (France) without inputing the tones: >> > > >> > > 简 (which means simplified, not traditional as you told me): 法国 >> > > ? (I dont know how to type this character, it probably means >> > > traditional?): 法果中: 法果 >> > > 英: ｆａｇｕｏ >> > > >> > > >> > > So as a result, when I want to enter "French country" in >> > > traditional, I get "French fruit" :) >> > > >> > > >> > > Would you have any recommendation? It pisses me off because I >> > > really can't type Chinese properly on Ubuntu whereas I was able >> > > to do that on Windows (and I *really* dont want to get back to >> > > Windows at all :)) >> > > >> > > >> > > On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 1:01 AM, Rachel Kronick >> > > <[hidden email]> wrote: >> > >> Hi Pierre, >> > >> >> > >> As I understand what you're requesting, that's already possible. >> > >> I use Pinyin to do traditional character input all the time. >> > >> >> > >> When you enter the Smart Pinyin method, hit <ctrl+/> (that is, >> > >> the control and ?/ keys simultaneously). This will cycle through >> > >> the outputs: in my case, traditional characters, simplified >> > >> characters, the annoying "中" which does a pointless mix of both, >> > >> and English. (I've long since asked on this list how to get rid >> > >> of the 中 option and gotten no response.) >> > >> >> > >> Let me know if this doesn't work for you. >> > >> >> > >> -- Rachel Kronick >> > >> >> > >> Pierre Equoy wrote: >> > >>> Hello, >> > >>> >> > >>> I've found the Feature Request ID 2793453 (posted on May 19th) >> > >>> very interesting: >> > >>> http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=650542&aid=2793453&group_id=108454 >> > >>> >> > >>> I've tried to leave a comment on the SourceForge page, but for >> > >>> some reason it didn't work... >> > >>> >> > >>> Anyway, I would love to be able to input Traditional Chinese >> > >>> using Hanyu Pinyin method. I've been studying Chinese in >> > >>> Taiwan, and I know Bopomofo (ZhuYin), but this method is a pain >> > >>> because, for every single character you input, you must know >> > >>> the right tone, which terribly slows down the typing. >> > >>> >> > >>> I love the "smart pinyin" method, but unfortunately it doesn't >> > >>> work well with Traditional Chinese. >> > >>> >> > >>> A mix of these two things (the Traditional characters from the >> > >>> ZhuYin method and the "smart" typing of the second one) would be >> > >>> wonderful! >> > >>> >> > >>> I think this is how it runs on Microsoft Windows IME: you select >> > >>> "Traditional Chinese", and then set up the input method to use >> > >>> the "HanYu Pinyin keyboard mapping" instead of the bopomofo >> > >>> one, and it works like a charm! >> > >>> >> > >>> I really hope James Su (who's been assigned this) will have a >> > >>> look at it and can provide a solution for it. >> > >>> I totally suck at programming, but if I can be of any other >> > >>> help I would be glad to participate! >> > >>> >> > >>> I've been looking for a solution for years now, and nothing >> > >>> comes up (I tried other input methods, etc.). I don't blame >> > >>> anybody of course! >> > >>> >> > >>> Thanks in advance and remember: if I can be of any help, just >> > >>> tell me! >> > >>> >> > >> >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> > >> Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports >> > >> 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and >> > >> deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application >> > >> coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. >> > >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july >> > >> _______________________________________________ Scim-user mailing >> > >> list [hidden email] >> > >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scim-user >> > >> >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> > Come build with us! 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Register now! > http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconf > _______________________________________________ > Scim-user mailing list > [hidden email] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scim-user > -- Pierre Equoy http://pierre.equoy.free.fr ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Come build with us! The BlackBerry® Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9-12, 2009. Register now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconf _______________________________________________ Scim-user mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scim-user |
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by David Oftedal
Thanks Rachel for showing that the traditional option of the smart pinyin is a little smarter than I thought. Although as you said, it still isn't as good as the simplified suggested phrases. You end up having to teach it so many phrases part by part that come up automatically as suggestions on Mac/Windows the first time.
Thank you David for pointing out the pinyin keyboard option and looking at the possibility of improving chewing for pinyin input! I am very excited about that. I wonder if it wouldn't just be better to improve the traditional dictionary of the smart pinyin, to keep the good infastructure that is already there, and maybe better, to have completely separate simple and traditional smart pinyins, so you don't have to always set it to traditional output upon opening. I would be willing to help, if there is anything a non-programmer could do. Thanks Pierre for posting again and keeping an interest going in this! I think there are a lot of people who will benefit. On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 8:26 AM, David Oftedal <[hidden email]> wrote: By the way, I had a look at the data files for libchewing, which ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Come build with us! The BlackBerry® Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9-12, 2009. Register now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconf _______________________________________________ Scim-user mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scim-user |
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by ePierre
On 2009-09-27, Pierre Equoy <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > I don't know what solution would be the best, though, since Smart > Pinyin could work well if it just displayed tradi char instead of > simplified ones... > Scim provides filter functions. You can use the conversion filter for simpl->trad Chinese. Go to "Scim Setup", under IMEngine->Global Setup->Chinese (Simplified)->Smart Pinyin, then choose the "Select Filters" at the bottom of the pan. The "Simplified-Traditional Chinnese Conversion" filter is the only one avaible now. Of course the filter might also suffer from the typical problem of non-1on1 mapping between simpl-trad Chinese conversion. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Come build with us! The BlackBerry(R) Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9 - 12, 2009. Register now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconference _______________________________________________ Scim-user mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scim-user |
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Hello!
Thanks for this tip, I didn't know there was filters for SCIM! I activated it and relaunched SCIM, but when I input Chinese using the Smart Pinyin method, I still have exactly the same result as before. Fore instance if I type "faguo", I get this: 法国 Whereas I was expecting something like 法國 (this 國 is in eighth position in the list :((( ) Help! On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 10:12 AM, JustFillBug <[hidden email]> wrote: > On 2009-09-27, Pierre Equoy <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >> I don't know what solution would be the best, though, since Smart >> Pinyin could work well if it just displayed tradi char instead of >> simplified ones... >> > > Scim provides filter functions. You can use the conversion filter for > simpl->trad Chinese. Go to "Scim Setup", under IMEngine->Global > Setup->Chinese (Simplified)->Smart Pinyin, then choose the "Select > Filters" at the bottom of the pan. > > The "Simplified-Traditional Chinnese Conversion" filter is the only one > avaible now. > > Of course the filter might also suffer from the typical problem of > non-1on1 mapping between simpl-trad Chinese conversion. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Come build with us! The BlackBerry(R) Developer Conference in SF, CA > is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your > developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay > ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9 - 12, 2009. Register now! > http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconference > _______________________________________________ > Scim-user mailing list > [hidden email] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scim-user > -- Pierre Equoy http://pierre.equoy.free.fr ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Come build with us! The BlackBerry(R) Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9 - 12, 2009. Register now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconference _______________________________________________ Scim-user mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scim-user |
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On 2009-10-14, Pierre Equoy
<[hidden email]> wrote: > Thanks for this tip, I didn't know there was filters for SCIM! > > I activated it and relaunched SCIM, but when I input Chinese using the > Smart Pinyin method, I still have exactly the same result as before. > Fore instance if I type "faguo", I get this: 法国 > Whereas I was expecting something like 法國 (this 國 is in eighth > position in the list :((( ) > From the source code of the filter, the filter only works under special encodings like Big5, gbk, etc. It shouldn't be neccessary but the code was constructed like that. :( ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Come build with us! The BlackBerry(R) Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9 - 12, 2009. Register now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconference _______________________________________________ Scim-user mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scim-user |
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by ePierre
On 2009-10-14, Pierre Equoy
<[hidden email]> wrote: > > Thanks for this tip, I didn't know there was filters for SCIM! > > I activated it and relaunched SCIM, but when I input Chinese using the > Smart Pinyin method, I still have exactly the same result as before. > Fore instance if I type "faguo", I get this: 法国 > Whereas I was expecting something like 法國 (this 國 is in eighth > position in the list :((( ) > BTW, had you set the conversion to "Simplified to Traditional" of the conversion-button on the input panel? It's 2nd button to the right on the input panel. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Come build with us! The BlackBerry(R) Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9 - 12, 2009. Register now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconference _______________________________________________ Scim-user mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scim-user |
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2009/10/15 JustFillBug <[hidden email]>:
> BTW, had you set the conversion to "Simplified to Traditional" of the > conversion-button on the input panel? It's 2nd button to the right on > the input panel. Sorry, I cannot find the button you're talking about. Check the joint picture to see what icones I have... -- Pierre Equoy http://pierre.equoy.free.fr ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Come build with us! The BlackBerry(R) Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9 - 12, 2009. Register now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconference _______________________________________________ Scim-user mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scim-user |
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On 2009-10-15, Pierre Equoy
<[hidden email]> wrote: > > 2009/10/15 JustFillBug <[hidden email]>: >> BTW, had you set the conversion to "Simplified to Traditional" of the >> conversion-button on the input panel? It's 2nd button to the right on >> the input panel. > > Sorry, I cannot find the button you're talking about. > Check the joint picture to see what icones I have... > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Come build with us! The BlackBerry(R) Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9 - 12, 2009. Register now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconference _______________________________________________ Scim-user mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scim-user |
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OK, maybe I will need to compile the latest stable version of SCIM then...
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 1:22 PM, JustFillBug <[hidden email]> wrote: > On 2009-10-15, Pierre Equoy > <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >> 2009/10/15 JustFillBug <[hidden email]>: >>> BTW, had you set the conversion to "Simplified to Traditional" of the >>> conversion-button on the input panel? It's 2nd button to the right on >>> the input panel. >> >> Sorry, I cannot find the button you're talking about. >> Check the joint picture to see what icones I have... >> >> >> > > I don't know, what I have is a icon says "繁简" like attached. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Come build with us! The BlackBerry(R) Developer Conference in SF, CA > is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your > developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay > ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9 - 12, 2009. Register now! > http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconference > _______________________________________________ > Scim-user mailing list > [hidden email] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scim-user > > -- Pierre Equoy http://pierre.equoy.free.fr ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Come build with us! The BlackBerry(R) Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9 - 12, 2009. Register now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconference _______________________________________________ Scim-user mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scim-user |
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