Holden and Luke - The Sex Talk

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Setting: Evening, in the upstairs in the Snyder Home.  

Holden knocks on Luke’s door

Holden: Luke, we are having dinner.  Holden, notices the door to Luke's room is locked.  Noah and Luke are inside, in bed, under the sheets, wrestling a bit.

Holden: Luke, everything alright?

Luke and Noah are interrupted and Luke tries not to sound like a guy in heat.

Luke: Everything is fine dad.  I will be out in a while.

Holden: Alright, we are all waiting for you.

Luke and Noah get out of bed and gather their clothes in a frenzy.

Noah: If your parents find me here like this, they will kill me.

Luke: Calm down, everyone else is in the kithcen.

The two men sneak downstairs.  After getting down to the living room, Noah attempts to sneak out the front door.  Holden walks in from the kitchen door and notices Noah walking out.  Holden is thrown for a bit, realizes what he must have interrupted then quickly recovers.

Holden: Noah, do you want to stay for dinner?

Noah: I don't want to intrude.

Holden: You are family now, it wouldn't be intruding.

Noah: Well with an offer like that, how can I refuse.  Noah heads to the kitchen, Luke follows behind and is stopped by Holden.

Holden: After dinner, we need to talk.

Luke has a slight look of panic, each man knowing what they need to talk about head into dinner.

After dinner

Noah and Luke are in the living room cuddling on the couch.  Holden walks in from upstairs.

Holden: Noah, would you mind if I had a few minutes alone with my son?

Noah: No, will just be in the kitchen helping clean up.

Holden goes and sits on the couch with Luke.

Holden: I know you are 19 almost 20 now, but you are still my son and I am a bit worried.

Luke knowing but not really wanting to discuss it

Luke: Worried about what?

Holden: There is no need to pretend, we both know what.  You had the door locked upstairs and then Noah was sneaking out of the house.  So, we need to talk about your sex life.  What this your first time?

Luke: Dad, I am not trying to be rude but it’s not really any of your business.  

Luke gets up and heads toward the kitchen.  Holden goes to him.

Holden: When you are having sex in my house, around your sisters and brother, it becomes part of my business.  I don’t want them walking in on something they shouldn’t know about yet.  Also, I don’t want Natalie and Ethan asking questions.  Faith is old enough to understand these things, but the other two are just too young.  

Luke: Dad, I, we wouldn’t do anything to upset Nat, Faith, or Ethan.

Holden, takes a moment to breath and calm down.

Holden: I know you wouldn’t intentionally, but something might come up.  I also know you are an adult, but I still worry about your safety.  Are you using protection?

Luke: Dad!!  Relenting a bit because he knows he won’t be able to avoid the conversation.  Yes

Holden: Every time?

Luke: Yes!  Look we know about safe sex.  The reality is that I have never had sex until Noah, but I am still a little concerned because of the transfusions.  Noah was with Maddie and was never tested afterwards.  We plan to go to the county health department to get tested.

Holden: When?

Luke: We haven’t set a date, but soon.

Holden: Better sooner than later.  There are other things out there than just HIV.

Luke: I know! I know you are worried, but we are being safe.  

Holden: Ok, that’s really all I wanted to say.

Holden begins to head out of the living room.

Luke: Dad, I have to ask, did you ever have this conversation with Aaron?  Or is it because I am gay that you are so concerned?

Holden: I will admit, I am little more worried because you are gay.  But I did have a similar conversation with Aaron.  I know certain activities in a gay relationship make it more likely for one to get a disease.

Luke: Oh God!!  I am not telling you about the specifics of mine and Noah sex life.

Holden: Trust me, I don’t want to know the details, anymore than you want to know the details of your mother and mine’s.

Luke: Yuck!! I really did not need that image.

Holden laughs a bit

Holden:  I am just concerned.  Let me know when you get tested, ok?

Luke: Alright, I will.  

Holden: I love you Luke.

Luke: I love you too dad.

The two men hug, then Holden heads upstairs.  Noah comes back into the living room.

Noah: What was that all about?

Luke: My dad decided to grill me on the ins and outs of our sex life?

Noah: He did what?

Luke: He asked me if we were using protection.  Then he began to ask about if we were getting tested and what positions we do?

Noah: Wow!! That’s too weird.

Luke: Tell me about it.

Noah: What did you tell him?

Luke: I told him we had sex, he had figured that part out already, figured there was no reason to lie.  I also told him we were getting tested but hadn’t set a date and that the positions are none of his business.  He basically told me that if we are going to do it here, to keep it to times when Natalie, Faith, and Ethan are not around.  He is a little worried about them walking in, or asking questions.

Noah: Thank you for that.

Luke: For what?

Noah: Not telling your dad about the ins and outs of our sex life.  I don’t think I could look at him again if I knew he knew what I was doing to his son.

Luke: You and me both!!

The two men embrace and kiss

Noah: How about we finish what we started upstairs at my dorm room.  My roommate won’t be home for a couple more hours.  

Luke: Sounds like a good idea.

The two men then head out the front door.
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Reminds me of the scene in Jeffery, where his parents were more informed than most!  Well Done!!!
Your church doesn't like alcohol or homosexuals, I'm definitely not joining-I can't imagine Heaven with out Both!-Jaqueline Bisset-("Latter Days").

Have A Great Carolina Day!


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OC,

Thanks for the compliment.  I didn't exactly picture Holden and Lilly like Jefferey's parents but I guess there is a slight paralell.  Being that they have known about Luke since he was 16, I figured they would be a little more informed than most parents of a 19 year old gay boy.  Though, I still think, that like all parents, they don't really want to know the specifcs of their child's sex life.  
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If I were a parent, I would be probably shocked and awed about what my child would do.  I may have to get "The Facts Of Life" from hin/her.  I am 50 years old and would not be surprised at what young people today talk about.  I wish I were young again.  Take Care!!!
Your church doesn't like alcohol or homosexuals, I'm definitely not joining-I can't imagine Heaven with out Both!-Jaqueline Bisset-("Latter Days").

Have A Great Carolina Day!


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Well done! However, I seem to recall that Luke and Noah did get tested once upon a time even though they didn't go all the way at first. They were concerned about the transfusions and Noah's prior sex life. Glad that sex finally happened, though. It's about time.
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CrochetQueen613 wrote:
Well done! However, I seem to recall that Luke and Noah did get tested once upon a time even though they didn't go all the way at first. They were concerned about the transfusions and Noah's prior sex life. Glad that sex finally happened, though. It's about time.
CQ,

When do you remember seeing this?  I have watched the show since April 08 steadily and watched via youtube prior to that and don't remember seeing this ever.  
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Hey Chris,

Like I said before, when you replied to one of my posts with this scenario, I thought it was a good talking sequence.  The phrasing of Luke's response to Noah about "positions", I think, was a little bit more than what Holden was asking Luke.  I don't think neither would want to know any "details" of the other's sex escapades!!  LOL

I think ATWT missed a good opportunity for a PSA regarding safe sex, by omitting a talk sequence like this between Luke and Holden on the show.
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I will drink to that!!!  It could have been a service to everyone to get tested and remain healthy and able to enjoy life.  Well the young bucks who are in charge missed the boat entirely.  You are right Jay, They missed a Golden Opportunity.
Your church doesn't like alcohol or homosexuals, I'm definitely not joining-I can't imagine Heaven with out Both!-Jaqueline Bisset-("Latter Days").

Have A Great Carolina Day!


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Oakdale Confidential wrote:
I will drink to that!!!  It could have been a service to everyone to get tested and remain healthy and able to enjoy life.  Well the young bucks who are in charge missed the boat entirely.  You are right Jay, They missed a Golden Opportunity.
Thanks, Myles, for your support!!
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Just trying to do my civic duty.  That's All!!!
Your church doesn't like alcohol or homosexuals, I'm definitely not joining-I can't imagine Heaven with out Both!-Jaqueline Bisset-("Latter Days").

Have A Great Carolina Day!


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I want to say it was around the time that Luke got shot, or after his recovery when Ameera showed up. I don't remember exactly, but for some reason I seem to recall them in a doctor's office. IDK, maybe I read a fanfic scenario on the old CBS board and, being the visual person that I am, I imagined it.
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CrocheQueen613 wrote:
I want to say it was around the time that Luke got shot, or after his recovery when Ameera showed up. I don't remember exactly, but for some reason I seem to recall them in a doctor's office. IDK, maybe I read a fanfic scenario on the old CBS board and, being the visual person that I am, I imagined it.
CQ,

It is possilbe that you interpreted a fanfic into the actual show.  I did that once, thinking Noah had moved back into the cottage, than realized I wrong, opps.  Anyways, if you come across this scene, let me know, I don't recall it myself.  Others have left comments for me regarding this piece and have not mentioned any past discussion by Noah and Luke regarding testing.
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Jay and Myles,

I think the PSA idea is really good.  Even if they were not doing it with Luke and Noah, they could have done it with Liberty and Parker.  Hit more of the teen audience and gotten parents and teens to talk about sex.
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Jay and Myles,

I think the PSA idea is really good.  Even if they were not doing it with Luke and Noah, they could have done it with Liberty and Parker.  Hit more of the teen audience and gotten parents and teens to talk about sex.
Thank you, Chris!  I agree with your comment!
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OSU21Male wrote:
CrocheQueen613 wrote:
I want to say it was around the time that Luke got shot, or after his recovery when Ameera showed up. I don't remember exactly, but for some reason I seem to recall them in a doctor's office. IDK, maybe I read a fanfic scenario on the old CBS board and, being the visual person that I am, I imagined it.
CQ,

It is possilbe that you interpreted a fanfic into the actual show.  I did that once, thinking Noah had moved back into the cottage, than realized I wrong, opps.  Anyways, if you come across this scene, let me know, I don't recall it myself.  Others have left comments for me regarding this piece and have not mentioned any past discussion by Noah and Luke regarding testing.
I mentioned the fact that Noah and Luke hadn't been tested in a thread on vh.net. I brought up that Maddie was raped by her BIL so she should have been tested and b/c she had sex w/ Noah, he should have been told there was a possibility of infection.

What I was told was Luke has never had sex so he was clean (uhh...OK..I had a wtf moment here...Luke spent months in the hospital and who knows what he was exposed to when he was w/ Keith during the whole stolen kidney s/l) and since it had been so long since Noah had sex w/ Maddie and no one mentioned anything about Maddie having any infections, then we are to assume that Noah is safe. We are? I felt the whole situation needed to be clarified at some point, by having the boys tested or Maddie being tested after the whole stalker/rape reveal.

So no...I don't ever remember this being addressed on the show. I could be wrong but I don't think so. And if it was shown on the show, I'm sure one of the posters on vh.net would have come up w/ the youtube clip to back it up.



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Amen, Brother!!!
Your church doesn't like alcohol or homosexuals, I'm definitely not joining-I can't imagine Heaven with out Both!-Jaqueline Bisset-("Latter Days").

Have A Great Carolina Day!


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Greyhound,

I agree, I don't think it was ever mentioned, either for Maddie or for Noah.  Its sad that points like this get over looked, but I am guessing as a result of the quick pace of this show, the writer are not thinking of moments where education could be inputed into the story.  Though, I am glad they at least somewhat addressed it with Liberty, though I think it could have gone a bit more indepth.  The risk of course being that you come off sounding like an after school special, lol.  I was told my clinic scene that I posted on the old message board came off as sounded like such by one person, so its a balancing act.  It should at least be addressed though.