Hauptwerk Free Edition Announced

[Joe Hardy]

See this posting for details:

Hauptwerk Free Edition

[lwalls-2]

I have discovered what may be a "nasty" aspect of the new Hauptwerk 3 -- even the "free" version...

The Hauptwerk 3 installer insists on upgrading (or removing) any prior version of Hauptwerk before it will install Hauptwerk 3 -- even if that prior version is a "paid-for" version.

This would not be a bad thing as long as all the organs you have installed for Hauptwerk 2 -- including the purchased ones, like Jensen's and the Virginia Wurlitzer, etc., continue to function under Hauptwerk 3.

Does anyone know if this is the case? -- specifically: Do organs previously purchased for Hauptwerk 2 run under the free version of Hauptwerk 3?

I am suspecting not, since it has been said that the USB Key (dongle device) must be REMOVED when running the FREE Hauptwerk 3 -- yet it must be INSERTED when running the paid-for licensed organs.

CLW

[WurliTzerwilly]

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Lyn.

 

Jensen and Virginia sets will work on HW v3. The reason you can't make them work is because you haven't paid for HW v3. The free HW version will not run any commercial sets that use a dongle, because the free version will not run with a dongle.

 

The only viable way to run the free version and v2 is either on separate PCs or separate OS partitions.

 

You will be able to use the free version of our Paramount series with HW3 as long as no dongle is present.

Regards,
 
Alan.
 
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----- Original Message -----

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To: [hidden email]

Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 12:37 PM

Subject: Re: Hauptwerk Free Edition Announced

I have discovered what may be a "nasty" aspect of the new Hauptwerk 3 -- even the "free" version...

The Hauptwerk 3 installer insists or upgrading (or removing) any prior version of Hauptwerk before it will install Hauptwerk 3 -- even if that prior version is a "paid-for" version.

This would not be a bad thing as long as all the organs -- including the ones purchased, like Jensen's and the Virginia Wurlitzer, etc., continue to function under Hauptwerk 3.

Does anyone know if this is the case? -- specifically: Do organs previously purchased for Hauptwerk 2 run under the free version of Hauptwerk 3?

I am suspecting not, since it has been said that the USB Key (dongle device) must be REMOVED when running the FREE Hauptwerk 3 -- yet it must be INSERTED when running the paid-for licensed organs.

CLW

[John R. Tay]

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Alan,

 

Are you saying that, if I want to try the free Paramount organ, I must uninstall my paid version of HW and only have the free version installed?

 

John

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[WurliTzerwilly]

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John.

 

There is some confusion here. :-)

 

You can only run Paramount on Hauptwerk v3.23 or later. If you wanted to run Hauptwerk v2, you cannot run v3 alongside it on the same PC and OS.

 

If you are ONLY running Hauptwerk v3.23 (or later) AFAIK because Paramount 310 does not use the dongle, and is only encrypted to prevent reverse engineering (mainly of samples) it should run just fine on free and licensed versions of Hauptwerk v3.23 (and later).

 

Joe may have further info on this, but that's the way I understand it from his conversations with Brett.

Regards,
 
Alan.
 
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To: [hidden email]

Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 2:34 PM

Subject: Re: Hauptwerk Free Edition Announced

Alan,

 

Are you saying that, if I want to try the free Paramount organ, I must uninstall my paid version of HW and only have the free version installed?

 

John

 

[lwalls-2]

Joe Hardy wrote:

See this posting for details:

Hauptwerk Free Edition

Yes, Joe, I have read this posting, and the one that follows it, and that's where the confusion comes from.  At one point B. Milan says:

B. Milan wrote:

You may use the Free Edition on only one computer at a time.

You cannot use commercial sample sets if they are licensed via the Hauptwerk USB key (unless you have a license for them on an attached Hauptwerk USB key for an earlier Hauptwerk version).

And then, in the following post, he says:

B. Milan wrote:

Note that if you have a licensed version of Hauptwerk (meaning you have a Hauptwerk USB key) and wish to try the Free Edition, you must remove the USB key from your computer.

Do you see the ambiguity in these statements?  He would seem to be saying that you can use licensed (commercial) sample sets (organs?) with H3 "free" if you have licensed them with the USB key for an earlier version (which I have), and then in the following post he says that the USB Key must be removed when running the H3 "Free" version.  I had thought that the USB Key needed to be inserted in order to run the licensed organs.  Yet, running the H3 "Free" requires that the USB Key NOT be inserted!

My fear is in installing H3 "free", only to find out that none of the licensed organs (Virginia, Jensen, etc.) will work any more, and then having to go back and re-install the older H2 version and the licensed organs again.

I would just like to know if anyone has ACTUALLY INSTALLED H3 "free" as an upgrade to H2 and found out whether or not licensed/commercial organs that were legitimately installed with H2 STILL WORK with H3 "free".

Lynn

[lwalls-2]

WurliTzerwilly wrote:

You can only run Paramount on Hauptwerk v3.23 or later. If you wanted to run Hauptwerk v2, you cannot run v3 alongside it on the same PC and OS.

If you are ONLY running Hauptwerk v3.23 (or later) AFAIK because Paramount 310 does not use the dongle, and is only encrypted to prevent reverse engineering (mainly of samples) it should run just fine on free and licensed versions of Hauptwerk v3.23 (and later).

Alan,

If this statement is true, such arrogance is quite a significant DISINCENTIVE for us lowly VTPO enthusiasts to try HW3 "free" in order to try out the Paramount 310!!!!

Although I am more technically adventuresome than most members here, I am still not willing to have to set up two separate computers, or even two separate Windows XP images on my only VTPO computer just in order to be able to play my already-paid-for HW2 organs and the HW3 "free" Paramount 310 organ alternately.

Lynn

[WurliTzerwilly]

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Lynn.

 

I don't understand your reference to the word 'arrogance'.

 

The Paramount 310 is timed to coincide (loosely <g>) with the release of the Hauptwerk free edition. We've said that all along. I am not prepared to write ODFs for version 2 and miss out on the new features for ODF writers that are in version 3. With 4 Paramount versions, I am also not prepared to make that 8, with differences to fit v2. ALL new HW sample sets are being written for version 3. By coincidence, some may also work with v2.

 

We are GIVING away a 3 manual 10 rank theatre organ of high quality, totally free apart from your download costs. I certainly have no intention of paying MDA a dongle fee for each free edition, just so it can be run on v2.

 

The problem of incompatibility between HW v2 and v3.23 is not our doing, it is entirely the decision of MDA and we have no control over that whatsoever.

 

The explanation was only intended to convey factual information, not to tell you what to do.

 

Regards,
 
Alan.
 
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----- Original Message -----

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To: [hidden email]

Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 4:16 PM

Subject: Re: Hauptwerk Free Edition Announced

WurliTzerwilly wrote:

You can only run Paramount on Hauptwerk v3.23 or later. If you wanted to run Hauptwerk v2, you cannot run v3 alongside it on the same PC and OS.

If you are ONLY running Hauptwerk v3.23 (or later) AFAIK because Paramount 310 does not use the dongle, and is only encrypted to prevent reverse engineering (mainly of samples) it should run just fine on free and licensed versions of Hauptwerk v3.23 (and later).

Alan,

If this statement is true, such arrogance is quite a significant DISINCENTIVE for us lowly VTPO enthusiasts to try HW3 "free" in order to try out the Paramount 310!!!!

Although I am more technically adventuresome than most members here, I am still not willing to have to set up two separate computers, or even two separate Windows XP images on my only VTPO computer just in order to be able to play my already-paid-for HW2 organs and the HW3 "free" Paramount 310 organ alternately.

Lynn

[lwalls-2]

WurliTzerwilly wrote:

I don't understand your reference to the word 'arrogance'.

Alan,

Please don't misunderstand me.  The word "arrogance" would apply only to Dyde, Milan and company, and ONLY if Hauptwerk 2 licensed organs cannot be run on the new Hauptwerk 3 "Free" version.  We seem to not yet know the answer to this question for certain!

But assuming that this is NOT possible, then I stick by the word "arrogance".

They offer a "free" version of Hauptwerk 3.  But to use it, they FORCE you to upgrade from your PAID-FOR Hauptwerk 2, and your PAID-FOR already-licensed Organs.

Being in the software business myself, I know that it would have been a very small effort to bring forward the capability for running PAID-FOR versions of organs and sample sets to run seamlessly under the "Free" version of Hauptwerk 3.  They CHOSE not to do this.  That was a conscious decision -- not a hardware or software constraint!

Thus, to not make this simple accomodation to legacy customers may only be characterized with one of two words: GREED or ARROGANCE.

People of that ilk are not people with whom I would choose to do business!

Even you and Joe are being constrained to offer your free version of the Paramount 310 under the shadow of Dyde's attempt to intimidate purchasers of Hauptwerk 2 licenses and Hauptwerk 2 licensable organs into a FORCED upgrade.

If Hauptwerk 3 cannot accomodate the already-licensed Jensen and Milan organs, then I, and people in my situation, are de facto FORCED to either give up those PAID-FOR licenses, or FORCED to forgo your free Paramount offering!  Being so forced is equivalent to having one's choices arbitrarily limited by someone who is either trying to get more money by "bait-and-switch" tactics, or is too stupid to realize that he is expressing obvious contempt for his former customers.

You might say: "H3 is free and nobody is forcing you to use it."

But then, I would say: "But I DO want to use it under the terms of its stated limited functionality.  So why should something that I have already PAID FOR also be taken away?"  

What better word than "arrogance" applies here????

Lynn

[lwalls-2]

 ....OR they could have simply designed the software to accommodate MULTIPLE instances and versions of Hauptwerk to be installed on the same computer.  In this circumstance, they could have even imposed the very reasonable constraint that only ONE of those installed instances could be running/executing at any one point in time.

Windows/XP has all the technical capabilities to permit multiple instances of the same program to be installed concurrently in different folders.  If the Hauptwerk architects are unable to design software with this capability, then they are stupid.  If they did it by design, then they are insensitive to their customers and are behaving in an "arrogant" manner.

Can anyone offer another explanation?

[John R. Tay]

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Lynn,

 

Maybe you should take this up on the HW forum, where you can get an answer straight from the horse's mouth, so to speak.

 

John

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[lwalls-2]

Maybe.

But I'm really in no hurry for the answer to my original question, which was essentially: "Is Hauptwerk 3 "free" able to run ALREADY-PAID-FOR sample sets and organs licensed under prior versions of Hauptwerk? And if not, by what logic should those already PAID-FOR licenses have to become deactivated in order to use the forthcoming Paramount 310 organ?"

I would assume that the answer to that question will eventually appear in this VTPO forum.

If the eventual answer to those questions is "unfavorable", then the the follow-up question is begged: "Why would our hard-working Paramount VTPO builders want to be associated with a software product whose owners treat established customers in that fashion?"

CLW

[Jim Reid]

Lynn,

My attempt at answers, though I have passed your questions on to Brett Milan.
From the HW 3.23 release notices,  which cover HW3 free:

"The Free Edition has all features of the Basic Edition except:
Its polyphony is restricted to 256 simultaneous voices (pipes).

That's sufficient for practicing with a reasonable number of stops on
organs with small and medium-sized acoustics.

You can load a maximum of 1.5 GB of sample data into memory at a
time. You can load larger sample sets, but you will need to disable some ranks.
24-bit or 32-bit sample sets will work fully, but can be loaded in a
maximum of 16-bit resolution.

Non-commercial, home personal use only.

No support. You must buy a licensed edition if you need help or advice from us.

You may use the Free Edition on only one computer at a time.

You cannot use commercial sample sets if they are licensed via the
Hauptwerk USB key (unless you have a license for them on an attached
Hauptwerk USB key for an earlier Hauptwerk version)."

That last point seems to answer your questions that Yes commercial sample
sets for which you have license on the dongle,  and the dongle is plugged
back in, will play with the above limitation, on HW3 free.  This would seem
to indicate that the commercial sample sets are not removed.  Note that
if you upgrade a "regular" HW version to a more current version,  the earlier
HW installation is removed,  but the sample data and your organ settings info,
manuals for that organ,  voicing,  etc. are NOT erased,  but moved on to the
new upgraded edition.  Perhaps that is what occurs with the free HW installation.
You will loose HW2.x installed,  but HW 3 free will retain your sample sets and
user settings.  But,  I have also asked Brett about this.  See my forum post here:

http://forum.hauptwerk.com/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=5154

Jim

[lwalls-2]

Jim Reid wrote:

You cannot use commercial sample sets if they are licensed via the
Hauptwerk USB key (unless you have a license for them on an attached
Hauptwerk USB key for an earlier Hauptwerk version)."

That last point seems to answer your questions that Yes commercial sample
sets for which you have license on the dongle,  and the dongle is plugged
back in, will play with the above limitation, on HW3 free.  This would seem
to indicate that the commercial sample sets are not removed.  Note that
if you upgrade a "regular" HW version to a more current version,  the earlier
HW installation is removed,  but the sample data and your organ settings info,
manuals for that organ,  voicing,  etc. are NOT erased,  but moved on to the
new upgraded edition.  Perhaps that is what occurs with the free HW installation.
You will loose HW2.x installed,  but HW 3 free will retain your sample sets and
user settings.  But,  I have also asked Brett about this.  See my forum post here:

http://forum.hauptwerk.com/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=5154

Jim,

What you say is exactly what I would hope is the case -- that is: upgrading to HW 3 free will permit USB Keyed sample sets/organs to continue to run on HW 3.  I do not mind at all upgrading to HW 3 "free" and losing HW 2 as long as the already purchased Jensen and Milan organs do, in fact, continue to work with HW 3 "free".

But because of the ambiguity introduced by the statement that HW 3 "free" will not run if the USB Key dongle is inserted, I am not yet willing to experiment by upgrading only to find out that the purchased licenses for working versions of Jensen and Milan-Virginia no longer work until I pay even more money.

At this point I am of the mind to REFUSE to let my Jensen and Milan organs be held hostage in order to try out the "free" Paramount 310 organ -- especially when any person who has NOT purchased Hauptwerk 2 and the Jensen and Milan organs may try the Paramount 310 absolutely free with NO RISK WHATSOEVER to something that he has paid for!

It just seems like a slap at the people who have already paid for Hauptwerk 2, and the Jensen and Milan organs!

The other point that would aggravate me no end would be that a software developer would have the nerve to say that I cannot install a new "evaluation" (or "free") version of his software without having to lose other software that I have already paid for!  This would be the height of both incompetent programming and arrogance!

Lynn

[Jim Reid]

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Lynn , 

 

Brett has posted a rather long reply to my questions.  Not sure it completely satisfies

your issues, but, here it is:

 

"The Free Edition won't be an option to choose if you have a version 3 license and leave

the USB key attached since it will detect your license and automatically run in full licensed

mode. If you already have a version 3 license you would need to remove the key to run

the free edition. However those using version 2 of Hauptwerk *can* leave the USB

key attached since Hauptwerk will see that there is not a version 3 license installed,

and thus offer the choice to try the evaluation versions or the Free Edition.

If you have a license for Hauptwerk version 2 and not for Hauptwerk version 3, installing

version 3.23 will overwrite your version 2 Hauptwerk software (not sample sets or

other custom settings, just the software itself) since there can only be one installation

of Hauptwerk on a single partition at any given time. Installing newer versions of

Hauptwerk will never remove any of your sample sets. If you have a second partition

you can install v. 3.23 and some licensed version 2 sample sets if you wish to try

them out without overwriting your version 2 installation on the other partition.

If you have your USB key attached with a version 2 license installed and run

version 3.23, it will allow you to load and play previously paid for licensed

sample sets in either evaluation mode (with triangle chime) or using the Free Edition.

For example, let's say I own a Hauptwerk 2 Basic Edition license and own the

Silbermann St. Marien organ which is a version 2 formatted organ and that I only

 have a single partition on the hard drive. If I install version 3.23, it will overwrite

my Hauptwerk version 2 software, but leave the St. Marien samples, ODFs,

custom voicing's, etc. in tact. I then leave the USB key attached and launch the

newly installed Hauptwerk software v 3.23. First you will see the message

shown below in the image and having clicked on the info button. Assuming you

agree to the prompts you can then launch Hauptwerk. It will update all of the

Hauptwerk files to run version 3.23. Then you can load and play the St. Marien

set which is an encrypted set relying on the USB key for licensing. It will run in

the Free Edition with the restrictions the in place.

Then if you decide to use Hauptwerk 2.xx again to run the fully licensed version

with your version 2 license you would need to uninstall version 3.23 and reinstall

version 2.xx. This is not any different for someone who has version 2 and may

want to try evaluating before upgrading with regards to how it worked using the

evaluation version when version 3.22 or earlier was released. Now they can

evaluate version 3 with the Free Edition while using their previously paid for

licensed instruments.

Hauptwerk does issue a message explaining the situation and can be seen

below in the screen shot image.

Brett Milan "

 

Not sure the screen shot will go through on this Yahoo list.

 

Jim

From: [hidden email]

To: [hidden email]

Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 2:43 PM

Subject: Re: Hauptwerk Free Edition Announced

Jim Reid wrote:

You cannot use commercial sample sets if they are licensed via the
Hauptwerk USB key (unless you have a license for them on an attached
Hauptwerk USB key for an earlier Hauptwerk version)."

That last point seems to answer your questions that Yes commercial sample
sets for which you have license on the dongle,  and the dongle is plugged
back in, will play with the above limitation, on HW3 free.  This would seem
to indicate that the commercial sample sets are not removed.  Note that
if you upgrade a "regular" HW version to a more current version,  the earlier
HW installation is removed,  but the sample data and your organ settings info,
manuals for that organ,  voicing,  etc. are NOT erased,  but moved on to the
new upgraded edition.  Perhaps that is what occurs with the free HW installation.
You will loose HW2.x installed,  but HW 3 free will retain your sample sets and
user settings.  But,  I have also asked Brett about this.  See my forum post here:

http://forum.hauptwerk.com/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=5154

Jim,

What you say is exactly what I would hope is the case -- that is: upgrading to HW 3 free will permit USB Keyed sample sets/organs to continue to run on HW 3.  I do not mind at all upgrading to HW 3 "free" and losing HW 2 as long at the already purchased Jensen and Milan organs do, in fact, continue to work with HW 3 "free".

But because of the ambiguity introduced by the statement that HW 3 will not run if the USB Key dongle is inserted, I am not yet willing to experiment by upgrading only to find out that the purchased licenses for working versions of Jensen and Milan-Virginia no longer work until I pay even more money.

At this point I am of the mind to REFUSE to let my Jensen and Milan organs be held hostage in order to try out the "free" Paramount 310 organ -- especially when any person who has NOT purchased Hauptwerk 2 and the Jensen and Milan organs may try the Paramount 310 absolutely free with NO RISK WHATSOEVER to something that he has paid for!

It just seems like a slap at the people who have already paid for Hauptwerk 2, and the Jensen and Milan organs!

Lynn

[engrssc]

Why not run HW3 Free on a separate computer or at least on a separate partition? It doesn't appear HW 3 Free is directed at present paid up users by rather HW newbies. It appears HW 2 is better in this case than HW 3 Free.

 

Rgds,

Ed

 

 

 

In a message dated 7/12/2009 7:43:33 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [hidden email] writes:

Jim Reid wrote:

You cannot use commercial sample sets if they are licensed via the n HW Free
Hauptwerk USB key (unless you have a license for them on an attached
Hauptwerk USB key for an earlier Hauptwerk version)."

That last point seems to answer your questions that Yes commercial sample
sets for which you have license on the dongle,  and the dongle is plugged
back in, will play with the above limitation, on HW3 free.  This would seem
to indicate that the commercial sample sets are not removed.  Note that
if you upgrade a "regular" HW version to a more current version,  the earlier
HW installation is removed,  but the sample data and your organ settings info,
manuals for that organ,  voicing,  etc. are NOT erased,  but moved on to the
new upgraded edition.  Perhaps that is what occurs with the free HW installation.
You will loose HW2.x installed,  but HW 3 free will retain your sample sets and
user settings.  But,  I have also asked Brett about this.  See my forum post here:

http://forum.hauptwerk.com/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=5154

Jim,

What you say is exactly what I would hope is the case -- that is: upgrading to HW 3 free will permit USB Keyed sample sets/organs to continue to run on HW 3.  I do not mind at all upgrading to HW 3 "free" and losing HW 2 as long at the already purchased Jensen and Milan organs do, in fact, continue to work with HW 3 "free".

But because of the ambiguity introduced by the statement that HW 3 will not run if the USB Key dongle is inserted, I am not yet willing to experiment by upgrading only to find out that the purchased licenses for working versions of Jensen and Milan-Virginia no longer work until I pay even more money.

At this point I am of the mind to REFUSE to let my Jensen and Milan organs be held hostage in order to try out the "free" Paramount 310 organ -- especially when any person who has NOT purchased Hauptwerk 2 and the Jensen and Milan organs may try the Paramount 310 absolutely free with NO RISK WHATSOEVER to something that he has paid for!

It just seems like a slap at the people who have already paid for Hauptwerk 2, and the Jensen and Milan organs!

Lynn

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[grahamg]

Hi Guys,
I'm just putting some rough thoughts together here so that others can
think and comment about the possibilities too...

Idea #1. If HW3 Free runs OK in Wine on Ubuntu as indicated by a user
on the HW forum, then it should (theoretically) run fine in Wine on
Puppy Linux. If so, then one could create a custom Puppy DVD that
boots from the DVD and runs HW3 with the Paramount 310 - a LIVE
Paramount 310 disk, so to speak... then you wouldn't have to worry
about HW2, etc. You could then use Jack and jConv to provide
convolution reverb processing to the stereo HW output too...

Idea #2. Using Cantabile lite in Windows, load the HW3 VSTi version
and Freeverb3 Impulser as the two VSTs and get free convolution reverb
for the Paranmount 310 in Windows too...

Idea #3. Use the Wubu (Windows Ubuntu Installer) to create a dual boot
Ubuntu/Windows installation on the computer and install HW3 in Ubuntu
- use jack and jconv as in idea #1.

Thanks to Joe and Alan, there are more and more options becoming
available... who knows what amazing things are just around the corner
too!

Musings....
GrahamG

[RoyR]

Hi, Graham,

                     Interesting options.

   Re #3, I raised this point recently but there were no comments, does anyone have any experience with regard to dual boot systems being unstable for VTPO use?


      Have fun,

          Roy.

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From: grahamg (via Nabble) <[hidden email]>
Subject: Musings on the Hauptwerk Free Edition with the Paramount 310
To: "RoyR" <[hidden email]>
Date: Monday, 13 July, 2009, 7:12 AM

Hi Guys,
I'm just putting some rough thoughts together here so that others can
think and comment about the possibilities too...

Idea #1. If HW3 Free runs OK in Wine on Ubuntu as indicated by a user
on the HW forum, then it should (theoretically) run fine in Wine on
Puppy Linux. If so, then one could create a custom Puppy DVD that
boots from the DVD and runs HW3 with the Paramount 310 - a LIVE
Paramount 310 disk, so to speak... then you wouldn't have to worry
about HW2, etc. You could then use Jack and jConv to provide
convolution reverb processing to the stereo HW output too...

Idea #2. Using Cantabile lite in Windows, load the HW3 VSTi version
and Freeverb3 Impulser as the two VSTs and get free convolution reverb
for the Paranmount 310 in Windows too...

Idea #3. Use the Wubu (Windows Ubuntu Installer) to create a dual boot
Ubuntu/Windows installation on the computer and install HW3 in Ubuntu
- use jack and jconv as in idea #1.

Thanks to Joe and Alan, there are more and more options becoming
available... who knows what amazing things are just around the corner
too!

Musings....
GrahamG

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[grahamg]

Hi Roy,
The stability of running Dual (or more) boot systems depends on the
boot loader and it's interaction with the computer hardware. I used to
run a triple boot system for development (WinXP, Puppy, Ubuntu) quite
stably (I now use virtual PCs within VirtualBox).

To set it up, I first booted Puppy Linux from the CD and formatted the
harddrive and set up 4 primary partitions (one for WinXP, one for
Puppy, one for Ubuntu, and one for LinuxSwap). I then installed WinXP,
then Puppy linux, and finally Ubuntu (the order is important). I then
edited the boot loader scripts that installed with Ubuntu (yup, this
is an advanced step...) to change the default boot to WinXP and name
the Puppy Linux booter to include the Puppy version number. Once this
was done, then it was just a matter of choosing which OS I wanted to
work in and re-booting into it.

Just my experience...
GrahamG

[RoyR]

Hi, Graham,

                     Thanks for your reply, I'll have a go at that on my main jOrgan machine.

  I know this will vary for different people's requirements but, just as a sense of proportion, how did/would you allocate the disk space among the four partitions?

      Have fun,

           Roy.

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From: grahamg (via Nabble) <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: Musings on the Hauptwerk Free Edition with the Paramount 310
To: "RoyR" <[hidden email]>
Date: Monday, 13 July, 2009, 12:31 PM

Hi Roy,
The stability of running Dual (or more) boot systems depends on the
boot loader and it's interaction with the computer hardware. I used to
run a triple boot system for development (WinXP, Puppy, Ubuntu) quite
stably (I now use virtual PCs within VirtualBox).

To set it up, I first booted Puppy Linux from the CD and formatted the
harddrive and set up 4 primary partitions (one for WinXP, one for
Puppy, one for Ubuntu, and one for LinuxSwap). I then installed WinXP,
then Puppy linux, and finally Ubuntu (the order is important). I then
edited the boot loader scripts that installed with Ubuntu (yup, this
is an advanced step...) to change the default boot to WinXP and name
the Puppy Linux booter to include the Puppy version number. Once this
was done, then it was just a matter of choosing which OS I wanted to
work in and re-booting into it.

Just my experience...
GrahamG

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