Getting ready for FOSS4Geo Sydney Birds of a Feather edu meeting
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Charlie Schweik
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Dear OSGeo Edu colleagues
(Sorry for a longish email) With the FOSS4Geo conference coming up next week, I thought I’d try and help focus our group in preparation for the Birds of a Feather meeting. I hope whoever is in Sydney and interested in furthering the education/curriculum efforts, you’ll sign up on the wiki [1]. Thanks for Scott Mitchell, Venka Ragavan and Maria Brovelli for helping run that given I won't be there. Perhaps one of you could do a report back on Edu activities and what we are planning now to the OSGeo open session if there is one (I'm assuming there will be). Let me know if you want talking points. But before I go on, I’d like to apologize to the group for my lack of leadership over the last six months. The short of it is I have been the primary caretaker of my mother, who has been seriously ill and in and out of hospitals 6 times since June. I’m hoping that situation will get better, but it has taken up a lot of my time. If you’d let me, I’m quite willing to continue my role as the OSGeo edu chair, but given my performance of late I am quite willing to step down if the group would like new leadership. This might be a topic of discussion for the BOF and whether an election for a new chair is in order. Now, to substance. I’ve edited our groups “to do list” on the OSGeo wiki, and am suggesting that we as a group focus now on the “Curriculum” discussion we’ve been having over email. Please see [2] What I’m suggesting is that people in Sydney have a discussion on this proposal. What do you all think? If you all agree, should we try rapidly to find some possible curriculum guidance in advance of next week? Lastly, a couple old tasks that I removed but still wonder about is: 1) Efforts to connect better OSGeo Local groups to education efforts; 2) Efforts to connect better to OSGeo software groups somehow; and 3) The FreeGIS Book - Victor's effort and the need for whatever is written to be translated to English Are these worthy of staying on our task list? And any other tasks/initiatives people want to take on this next year that I haven't listed? Feel free to add it to the todo list wiki page [2] Finally, if anyone is willing to take on a kind of subcommittee chair on any of these initiatives I would greatly appreciate it... ;-) Charlie [1] http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G_2009_BirdsOfAFeather [2] http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Education_Committee_Work_Program#PROPOSED_INITIATIVE_FOR_2009-2010_-_OS_GEO_CURRICULUM [cschweik.vcf] begin:vcard fn:Charlie Schweik n:Schweik;Charlie org:University of Massachusetts, Amherst;Natural Resources Conservation and Center for Public Policy and Administration adr:;;217 Holdsworth Hall;Amherst;MA;01003;USA title:Associate Professor tel;work:413 545 1824 note:Associate Director, National Center for Digital Government (www.ncdg.org) url:http://people.umass.edu/cschweik version:2.1 end:vcard _______________________________________________ Edu_discuss mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/edu_discuss |
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Ned Horning-2
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Charlie,
I guess I'm being a little slow here but I'm still trying to get a sense for what an OSGeo curriculum development effort would look like. There is a good deal of GIS curriculum out there so I'm not sure if redoing that makes sense. There has been mention of developing a curriculum around open source geospatial technologies but I'm not sure what that means. If we use open source software to support any curriculum I think we'd have to pick and choose which software to use and I'm not sure we want to do that. From a users perspective I have a sense for what I'd like to see but I'm not sure if this is in line with a broader group view. Would it make sense to create a list of server and desktop (perhaps pick one for starters) GIS, remote sensing image processing, and other geospatial tasks and then illustrate how each of those tasks is performed using different OSGeo software. I'm thinking of something along the lines of: "How Do I Do This in ArcGIS/Manifold?: Illustrating Classic GIS Tasks" (http://ecommons.library.cornell.edu/handle/1813/165). We could develop the framework and then work with each of the OSGeo projects to populate it with examples. This would be a great resource that could be used by teachers to more easily adapt existing curricula (private and public) to open source software. It would also be helpful for users. It would also get us working with the software projects more closely. Whatever we decide to do I expect to be able to help out during the next year. All the best, Ned Charlie Schweik wrote: > Dear OSGeo Edu colleagues > > (Sorry for a longish email) > > With the FOSS4Geo conference coming up next week, I thought I’d try > and help focus our group in preparation for the Birds of a Feather > meeting. I hope whoever is in Sydney and interested in furthering the > education/curriculum efforts, you’ll sign up on the wiki [1]. Thanks > for Scott Mitchell, Venka Ragavan and Maria Brovelli for helping run > that given I won't be there. Perhaps one of you could do a report back > on Edu activities and what we are planning now to the OSGeo open > session if there is one (I'm assuming there will be). Let me know if > you want talking points. > > But before I go on, I’d like to apologize to the group for my lack of > leadership over the last six months. The short of it is I have been > the primary caretaker of my mother, who has been seriously ill and in > and out of hospitals 6 times since June. I’m hoping that situation > will get better, but it has taken up a lot of my time. If you’d let > me, I’m quite willing to continue my role as the OSGeo edu chair, but > given my performance of late I am quite willing to step down if the > group would like new leadership. This might be a topic of discussion > for the BOF and whether an election for a new chair is in order. > > Now, to substance. I’ve edited our groups “to do list” on the OSGeo > wiki, and am suggesting that we as a group focus now on the > “Curriculum” discussion we’ve been having over email. > > Please see [2] > > What I’m suggesting is that people in Sydney have a discussion on this > proposal. > > What do you all think? If you all agree, should we try rapidly to find > some possible curriculum guidance in advance of next week? > > Lastly, a couple old tasks that I removed but still wonder about is: > > 1) Efforts to connect better OSGeo Local groups to education efforts; > 2) Efforts to connect better to OSGeo software groups somehow; and > 3) The FreeGIS Book - Victor's effort and the need for whatever is > written to be translated to English > > Are these worthy of staying on our task list? And any other > tasks/initiatives people want to take on this next year that I haven't > listed? Feel free to add it to the todo list wiki page [2] > > Finally, if anyone is willing to take on a kind of subcommittee chair > on any of these initiatives I would greatly appreciate it... ;-) > > Charlie > > [1] http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G_2009_BirdsOfAFeather > [2] > http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Education_Committee_Work_Program#PROPOSED_INITIATIVE_FOR_2009-2010_-_OS_GEO_CURRICULUM > > > _______________________________________________ > Edu_discuss mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/edu_discuss > _______________________________________________ Edu_discuss mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/edu_discuss |
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Sunburned Surveyor
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Ned,
I like your idea, and I think it would be very useful for a lot of "traditional" GIS users. I would only add that I find video can often be a much better medium than print for software tutorials. Landon On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 2:38 PM, Ned Horning <[hidden email]> wrote: > Charlie, > > I guess I'm being a little slow here but I'm still trying to get a sense for > what an OSGeo curriculum development effort would look like. There is a good > deal of GIS curriculum out there so I'm not sure if redoing that makes > sense. There has been mention of developing a curriculum around open source > geospatial technologies but I'm not sure what that means. If we use open > source software to support any curriculum I think we'd have to pick and > choose which software to use and I'm not sure we want to do that. > > From a users perspective I have a sense for what I'd like to see but I'm not > sure if this is in line with a broader group view. Would it make sense to > create a list of server and desktop (perhaps pick one for starters) GIS, > remote sensing image processing, and other geospatial tasks and then > illustrate how each of those tasks is performed using different OSGeo > software. I'm thinking of something along the lines of: "How Do I Do This in > ArcGIS/Manifold?: Illustrating Classic GIS Tasks" > (http://ecommons.library.cornell.edu/handle/1813/165). We could develop the > framework and then work with each of the OSGeo projects to populate it with > examples. This would be a great resource that could be used by teachers to > more easily adapt existing curricula (private and public) to open source > software. It would also be helpful for users. It would also get us working > with the software projects more closely. > > Whatever we decide to do I expect to be able to help out during the next > year. > > All the best, > > Ned > > Charlie Schweik wrote: >> >> Dear OSGeo Edu colleagues >> >> (Sorry for a longish email) >> >> With the FOSS4Geo conference coming up next week, I thought I’d try and >> help focus our group in preparation for the Birds of a Feather meeting. I >> hope whoever is in Sydney and interested in furthering the >> education/curriculum efforts, you’ll sign up on the wiki [1]. Thanks for >> Scott Mitchell, Venka Ragavan and Maria Brovelli for helping run that given >> I won't be there. Perhaps one of you could do a report back on Edu >> activities and what we are planning now to the OSGeo open session if there >> is one (I'm assuming there will be). Let me know if you want talking points. >> >> But before I go on, I’d like to apologize to the group for my lack of >> leadership over the last six months. The short of it is I have been the >> primary caretaker of my mother, who has been seriously ill and in and out of >> hospitals 6 times since June. I’m hoping that situation will get better, but >> it has taken up a lot of my time. If you’d let me, I’m quite willing to >> continue my role as the OSGeo edu chair, but given my performance of late I >> am quite willing to step down if the group would like new leadership. This >> might be a topic of discussion for the BOF and whether an election for a new >> chair is in order. >> >> Now, to substance. I’ve edited our groups “to do list” on the OSGeo wiki, >> and am suggesting that we as a group focus now on the “Curriculum” >> discussion we’ve been having over email. >> >> Please see [2] >> >> What I’m suggesting is that people in Sydney have a discussion on this >> proposal. >> >> What do you all think? If you all agree, should we try rapidly to find >> some possible curriculum guidance in advance of next week? >> >> Lastly, a couple old tasks that I removed but still wonder about is: >> >> 1) Efforts to connect better OSGeo Local groups to education efforts; >> 2) Efforts to connect better to OSGeo software groups somehow; and >> 3) The FreeGIS Book - Victor's effort and the need for whatever is written >> to be translated to English >> >> Are these worthy of staying on our task list? And any other >> tasks/initiatives people want to take on this next year that I haven't >> listed? Feel free to add it to the todo list wiki page [2] >> >> Finally, if anyone is willing to take on a kind of subcommittee chair on >> any of these initiatives I would greatly appreciate it... ;-) >> >> Charlie >> >> [1] http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G_2009_BirdsOfAFeather >> [2] >> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Education_Committee_Work_Program#PROPOSED_INITIATIVE_FOR_2009-2010_-_OS_GEO_CURRICULUM >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Edu_discuss mailing list >> [hidden email] >> http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/edu_discuss >> > > _______________________________________________ > Edu_discuss mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/edu_discuss > Edu_discuss mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/edu_discuss |
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