General gentle reminder to incubating projects

[Arnulf Christl (OSGeo)-2]

Hello,
there has been very little or no visible progress at all in some
incubating projects. I have informally talked to project leads and know
that some work has been done. Please remember that Incubation should
*not* happen "behind the scenes", let people know that you are working
on it. Hack your Wiki pages and show what you have done and whether and
where you are stuck. This list is here to help you if you are stuck.

We will revisit all incubating projects in three weeks from now and if
there is no progress either on this list or in the Wiki we might need to
start thinking about how to remove projects from incubation so that we
can proceed with more responsive projects.

If you have specific questions that you do not want to discuss in public
please talk to your mentor or ask someone from the incubation committee
that you trust.

Best regards,
Arnulf.

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[Paul Ramsey]

PostGIS still is looking for a mentor...

P

On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 12:57 AM, Arnulf Christl
(OSGeo)<[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hello,
> there has been very little or no visible progress at all in some
> incubating projects. I have informally talked to project leads and know
> that some work has been done. Please remember that Incubation should
> *not* happen "behind the scenes", let people know that you are working
> on it. Hack your Wiki pages and show what you have done and whether and
> where you are stuck. This list is here to help you if you are stuck.
>
> We will revisit all incubating projects in three weeks from now and if
> there is no progress either on this list or in the Wiki we might need to
> start thinking about how to remove projects from incubation so that we
> can proceed with more responsive projects.
>
> If you have specific questions that you do not want to discuss in public
> please talk to your mentor or ask someone from the incubation committee
> that you trust.
>
> Best regards,
> Arnulf.
>
> --
> Arnulf Christl
> President OSGeo
> http://www.osgeo.org
>
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[Peter Baumann-4]

Some javascript/style in this post has been disabled (why?)

for rasdaman, Bruce Bannerman has volunteered to be mentor, but AFAIK there is no official decision yet.

-Peter

On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 12:57 AM, Arnulf Christl
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Hello,
there has been very little or no visible progress at all in some
incubating projects. I have informally talked to project leads and know
that some work has been done. Please remember that Incubation should
*not* happen "behind the scenes", let people know that you are working
on it. Hack your Wiki pages and show what you have done and whether and
where you are stuck. This list is here to help you if you are stuck.

We will revisit all incubating projects in three weeks from now and if
there is no progress either on this list or in the Wiki we might need to
start thinking about how to remove projects from incubation so that we
can proceed with more responsive projects.

If you have specific questions that you do not want to discuss in public
please talk to your mentor or ask someone from the incubation committee
that you trust.

Best regards,
Arnulf.

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President OSGeo
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[Arnulf Christl (OSGeo)-2]

Paul Ramsey schrieb:
> PostGIS still is looking for a mentor...
>
> P

I would like to mentor PostGIS.

Best regards,
Arnulf.

> On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 12:57 AM, Arnulf Christl
> (OSGeo)<[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Hello,
>> there has been very little or no visible progress at all in some
>> incubating projects. I have informally talked to project leads and know
>> that some work has been done. Please remember that Incubation should
>> *not* happen "behind the scenes", let people know that you are working
>> on it. Hack your Wiki pages and show what you have done and whether and
>> where you are stuck. This list is here to help you if you are stuck.
>>
>> We will revisit all incubating projects in three weeks from now and if
>> there is no progress either on this list or in the Wiki we might need to
>> start thinking about how to remove projects from incubation so that we
>> can proceed with more responsive projects.
>>
>> If you have specific questions that you do not want to discuss in public
>> please talk to your mentor or ask someone from the incubation committee
>> that you trust.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Arnulf.
>>
>> --
>> Arnulf Christl
>> President OSGeo
>> http://www.osgeo.org
>>
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[Jens Fitzke]

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Hi all,

The deegree project team made quite an effort to set up or update documentation
about the status and results of the incubation progress. All information shall
be available via the official incubation page on the OSGeo wiki:
  http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Deegree_Incubation_Status
I guess that we're close to finalize this process. Any feedback is highly
appreciated.

Thanks,
Jens
- --
Jens Fitzke
deegree PSC member

Arnulf Christl (OSGeo) wrote:

> Hello,
> there has been very little or no visible progress at all in some
> incubating projects. I have informally talked to project leads and know
> that some work has been done. Please remember that Incubation should
> *not* happen "behind the scenes", let people know that you are working
> on it. Hack your Wiki pages and show what you have done and whether and
> where you are stuck. This list is here to help you if you are stuck.
>
> We will revisit all incubating projects in three weeks from now and if
> there is no progress either on this list or in the Wiki we might need to
> start thinking about how to remove projects from incubation so that we
> can proceed with more responsive projects.
>
> If you have specific questions that you do not want to discuss in public
> please talk to your mentor or ask someone from the incubation committee
> that you trust.
>
> Best regards,
> Arnulf.
>
> --
> Arnulf Christl
> President OSGeo
> http://www.osgeo.org

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[Jody Garnett-2]

Thanks Jens:

I will have a look at this and get back to you early next week. I do
however congradulate you on the very clear pages showing status and
progress :-)

Jody

On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 4:25 PM, Jens Fitzke<[hidden email]> wrote:

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> Hi all,
>
> The deegree project team made quite an effort to set up or update documentation
> about the status and results of the incubation progress. All information shall
> be available via the official incubation page on the OSGeo wiki:
>  http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Deegree_Incubation_Status
> I guess that we're close to finalize this process. Any feedback is highly
> appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Jens
> - --
> Jens Fitzke
> deegree PSC member
>
> Arnulf Christl (OSGeo) wrote:
>> Hello,
>> there has been very little or no visible progress at all in some
>> incubating projects. I have informally talked to project leads and know
>> that some work has been done. Please remember that Incubation should
>> *not* happen "behind the scenes", let people know that you are working
>> on it. Hack your Wiki pages and show what you have done and whether and
>> where you are stuck. This list is here to help you if you are stuck.
>>
>> We will revisit all incubating projects in three weeks from now and if
>> there is no progress either on this list or in the Wiki we might need to
>> start thinking about how to remove projects from incubation so that we
>> can proceed with more responsive projects.
>>
>> If you have specific questions that you do not want to discuss in public
>> please talk to your mentor or ask someone from the incubation committee
>> that you trust.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Arnulf.
>>
>> --
>> Arnulf Christl
>> President OSGeo
>> http://www.osgeo.org
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[Arnulf Christl (OSGeo)]

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Hey,
good progress, thank you. It was worth while to meet and chat with Jens
Fitzke at the last LinuxHotel meeting [1] and later with Markus
Schneider (current deegree lead) at the Bolsena sprint [2]. I learned a
lot about the deegree incubation progress, there was basically just
missing a link from the OSGeo Wiki, so that nobody from outside deegree
really took notice.

One funny issues in the code provenance review is a copyright
attribution to OpenGIS (which is the standards trademark of the OGC):
https://wiki.deegree.org/deegreeWiki/OSGeoIncubationCodeProvenanceBase#A.5BOPEN.5DFileswithunclearcopyrightsituation
It probably does not hurt much but I am unsure whether this should be
changed and if so whether we have to include OGC to attribute or move
copyright to OSGeo.

Best regards,
Arnulf.

Jody Garnett schrieb:

> Thanks Jens:
>
> I will have a look at this and get back to you early next week. I do
> however congradulate you on the very clear pages showing status and
> progress :-)
>
> Jody
>
> On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 4:25 PM, Jens Fitzke<[hidden email]> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> The deegree project team made quite an effort to set up or update documentation
> about the status and results of the incubation progress. All information shall
> be available via the official incubation page on the OSGeo wiki:
>  http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Deegree_Incubation_Status
> I guess that we're close to finalize this process. Any feedback is highly
> appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Jens

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[Arnulf Christl (OSGeo)]

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...and here go the missing links:
[1] http://www.fossgis.de/wiki/Arbeitstreffen
[2] http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_Hacking_Event_2009

Arnulf Christl schrieb:

> Hey,
> good progress, thank you. It was worth while to meet and chat with Jens
> Fitzke at the last LinuxHotel meeting [1] and later with Markus
> Schneider (current deegree lead) at the Bolsena sprint [2]. I learned a
> lot about the deegree incubation progress, there was basically just
> missing a link from the OSGeo Wiki, so that nobody from outside deegree
> really took notice.
>
> One funny issues in the code provenance review is a copyright
> attribution to OpenGIS (which is the standards trademark of the OGC):
> https://wiki.deegree.org/deegreeWiki/OSGeoIncubationCodeProvenanceBase#A.5BOPEN.5DFileswithunclearcopyrightsituation
> It probably does not hurt much but I am unsure whether this should be
> changed and if so whether we have to include OGC to attribute or move
> copyright to OSGeo.
>
> Best regards,
> Arnulf.
>
> Jody Garnett schrieb:
>> Thanks Jens:
>
>> I will have a look at this and get back to you early next week. I do
>> however congradulate you on the very clear pages showing status and
>> progress :-)
>
>> Jody
>
>> On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 4:25 PM, Jens Fitzke<[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Hi all,
>
>> The deegree project team made quite an effort to set up or update documentation
>> about the status and results of the incubation progress. All information shall
>> be available via the official incubation page on the OSGeo wiki:
>>  http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Deegree_Incubation_Status
>> I guess that we're close to finalize this process. Any feedback is highly
>> appreciated.
>
>> Thanks,
>> Jens
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[Arnulf Christl (OSGeo)-2]

Folks,
three weeks are (almost) over and there has been considerable progress
(which just went unnoticed because it was a bit hidden) on the two older
incubating projects (deegree, gvSIG) which is good. MetaCRS [1] and GEOS
[2] seems to be alive although I cannot see that much progress on
incubation. Especially with MetaCRS I am unsure on how progress will be
trackable at all because it is a meta project, maybe the Incubation
Process does not address this complex type well yet. Any thoughts?

>From what I can tell the OSGeo Incubation is an ongoing success,
especially looking at the queue [3] and more interest building up
(GeoServer wants to go for it) [4].

To move on we should start PostGIS incubation next but that will be
separate mail (I have to dig up what formal things need get done,
whether board vote is required etc.).

Best regards,
Arnulf.

[1] http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/metacrs/2009-April/000253.html
[2] http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/geos-devel/2009-May/thread.html
[3]
http://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/query?status=new&status=assigned&status=reopened&component=Incubator&keywords=~application&order=priority
[4]
http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_name=4A4A2217.5050602%40opengeo.org&forum_name=geoserver-devel

Arnulf Christl (OSGeo) schrieb:

> Hello,
> there has been very little or no visible progress at all in some
> incubating projects. I have informally talked to project leads and know
> that some work has been done. Please remember that Incubation should
> *not* happen "behind the scenes", let people know that you are working
> on it. Hack your Wiki pages and show what you have done and whether and
> where you are stuck. This list is here to help you if you are stuck.
>
> We will revisit all incubating projects in three weeks from now and if
> there is no progress either on this list or in the Wiki we might need to
> start thinking about how to remove projects from incubation so that we
> can proceed with more responsive projects.
>
> If you have specific questions that you do not want to discuss in public
> please talk to your mentor or ask someone from the incubation committee
> that you trust.
>
> Best regards,
> Arnulf.
>
> --
> Arnulf Christl
> President OSGeo
> http://www.osgeo.org
>
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