[GRASS translations] DEBUG-messages in grasslibs_*.po

[Stephan Holl-3]

Dear developers,

due to the fact, that the coordinate-language of GRASS is english, I
vote for not tranlating the debug-messages (e.g. for lib/gis/debug.c) in
grasslibs_*.po.

It mostly causes confusion if a user posts debugging-messages in their
locale.

 What do you think?

Best

        Stephan


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[Markus Neteler-3]

(FWD to 'grass devel' list...)

On Mon, Jul 18, 2005 at 07:35:18AM +0200, Stephan Holl wrote:

> Dear developers,
>
> due to the fact, that the coordinate-language of GRASS is english, I
> vote for not tranlating the debug-messages (e.g. for lib/gis/debug.c) in
> grasslibs_*.po.
>
> It mostly causes confusion if a user posts debugging-messages in their
> locale.
>
>  What do you think?
>
> Best
>
> Stephan
>
>
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[Paulo Marcondes]

2005/7/18, Stephan Holl <[hidden email]>:
> due to the fact, that the coordinate-language of GRASS is english, I
> vote for not tranlating the debug-messages (e.g. for lib/gis/debug.c) in
> grasslibs_*.po.
>
> It mostly causes confusion if a user posts debugging-messages in their
> locale.

Hi Stephan,

I'm not sure on this. I think it is often good for users to know what
is going wrong on his computer, so I think messagen in their locale
are helpful.
However, if he/she asks for international help, then you need to
understand the problem, and don't rely on his english skills...

So, I vote for both: English and a brief, localised version.
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[Glynn Clements]

Stephan Holl wrote:

> due to the fact, that the coordinate-language of GRASS is english, I
> vote for not tranlating the debug-messages (e.g. for lib/gis/debug.c) in
> grasslibs_*.po.
>
> It mostly causes confusion if a user posts debugging-messages in their
> locale.
>
>  What do you think?

If a user is requesting help from an international list (e.g.
[hidden email] or [hidden email]), *all* program output
should be in English, not just debugging messages. IOW, they should be
running the program in the C locale.

[I know of at least one developer list where any message containing
"Speicherzugriffsfehler" or "Erreur de segmentation" (the German and
French translations of "Segmentation fault") will get bounced.]

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[Stephan Holl-3]

Hello Glynn,

On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 06:59:24 +0100 Glynn Clements
<[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> Stephan Holl wrote:
>
> > due to the fact, that the coordinate-language of GRASS is english, I
> > vote for not tranlating the debug-messages (e.g. for
> > lib/gis/debug.c) in grasslibs_*.po.
> >
> > It mostly causes confusion if a user posts debugging-messages in
> > their locale.
> >
> >  What do you think?
>
> If a user is requesting help from an international list (e.g.
> [hidden email] or [hidden email]), *all* program output
> should be in English, not just debugging messages. IOW, they should be
> running the program in the C locale.
>
> [I know of at least one developer list where any message containing
> "Speicherzugriffsfehler" or "Erreur de segmentation" (the German and
> French translations of "Segmentation fault") will get bounced.]

OK, so translating should be done. Thanks for your input.

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[Markus Neteler-3]

On Wed, Jul 20, 2005 at 06:59:24AM +0100, Glynn Clements wrote:

>
> Stephan Holl wrote:
>
> > due to the fact, that the coordinate-language of GRASS is english, I
> > vote for not tranlating the debug-messages (e.g. for lib/gis/debug.c) in
> > grasslibs_*.po.
> >
> > It mostly causes confusion if a user posts debugging-messages in their
> > locale.
> >
> >  What do you think?
>
> If a user is requesting help from an international list (e.g.
> [hidden email] or [hidden email]), *all* program output
> should be in English, not just debugging messages. IOW, they should be
> running the program in the C locale.
>
> [I know of at least one developer list where any message containing
> "Speicherzugriffsfehler" or "Erreur de segmentation" (the German and
> French translations of "Segmentation fault") will get bounced.]

Should we remove the macros then from debug.c?

Markus

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[Glynn Clements]

Markus Neteler wrote:

> > > due to the fact, that the coordinate-language of GRASS is english, I
> > > vote for not tranlating the debug-messages (e.g. for lib/gis/debug.c) in
> > > grasslibs_*.po.
> > >
> > > It mostly causes confusion if a user posts debugging-messages in their
> > > locale.
> > >
> > >  What do you think?
> >
> > If a user is requesting help from an international list (e.g.
> > [hidden email] or [hidden email]), *all* program output
> > should be in English, not just debugging messages. IOW, they should be
> > running the program in the C locale.

> Should we remove the macros then from debug.c?

No.

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[Paulo Marcondes]

2005/7/20, Glynn Clements <[hidden email]>:

> If a user is requesting help from an international list (e.g.
> [hidden email] or [hidden email]), *all* program output
> should be in English, not just debugging messages. IOW, they should be
> running the program in the C locale.

Hi all.

Sorry for resurrecting this old message,
but I was wondering if it was made clear to users that
when looking for help in GRASSlist (or any other int'l list) they
should post their debug/log messages in the C locale?

thanks.
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