GDAL and ESRI

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ravivundavalli

GDAL and ESRI

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ARC-GIS 9.2 uses GDAL

Need some pointers to Licensing or agreement there on.
I am frequently asked questions on this.
Example: ILWIS uses GDAL and became OpenGIS
How come ESRI uses GDAL too, does open source support closed source too..

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Mateusz Loskot

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Ravi wrote:
> ARC-GIS 9.2 uses GDAL
>
> Need some pointers to Licensing or agreement there on. I am
> frequently asked questions on this. Example: ILWIS uses GDAL and
> became OpenGIS How come ESRI uses GDAL too, does open source support
> closed source too..

You need to learn about the basic licencing models used by FOSS and
FOSS4G. It is GPL, LGPL, BSD and MIT.

GDAL is distributed under the terms of MIT license.:

http://trac.osgeo.org/gdal/wiki/FAQGeneral#WhatlicensedoesGDALOGRuse

After you know what's the difference between these licencing terms,
you will understand how it is possible for ESRI to use GDAL.

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Le samedi 07 novembre 2009, Ravi a écrit :
> How come ESRI uses GDAL too, does open source support closed source too.

Hi,

It depends the OS Licence. GDAL licence is BSD-Like  [1].

Some other are usinng GPL-LIKe licence. This kind of licence does not allow
closed source to user open source licence. They need to "open" their source
using a GPL-Like licence [2].

This is quiet complicated ;)

Y.
[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BSD_licenses
[2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_General_Public_License
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Hi All,

Adding to this discussion, there are a spectrum of open source licenses measured in terms of what they allow to derivative works. At one end of the spectrum, the GPL stipulates that if you base your software on a component that is licensed with the GPL license *and* distribute it, that derivative work must be licensed under the GPL license.

On the other end of the spectrum, there are licenses that are very liberal in terms of what they allow - BSD and MIT are good examples of this. Reusing a component licensed under the BSD or MIT license does affect a derivative work.

In terms of the GPL, distribution is a key. If you do not distribute your derivative work, then it does not become GPL. An example of this would be strictly in-house use, or developing a web based service. The exception, be aware there is a different class of the GPL, the Affero GPL that applies in the case of web services. With this license, you do not have to redistribute to trigger the "GPL contamination" - building a web service is enough to do so.

There's a good video on what you should look out for and relative merits of various licenses here: http://www.fosslc.org/drupal/node/523 The 3 licenses discussed in this video are at opposite ends and roughly in the middle of the above spectrum.

Andrew

2009/11/7 Yves Jacolin (free) <[hidden email]>
Le samedi 07 novembre 2009, Ravi a écrit :
> How come ESRI uses GDAL too, does open source support closed source too.

Hi,

It depends the OS Licence. GDAL licence is BSD-Like  [1].

Some other are usinng GPL-LIKe licence. This kind of licence does not allow
closed source to user open source licence. They need to "open" their source
using a GPL-Like licence [2].

This is quiet complicated ;)

Y.
[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BSD_licenses
[2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_General_Public_License
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HI Ravi,
There is a nice term describing how GPL works - "viral effect". If you "touch" GPL you will be GPeLd to GPL yourself.
Unlike the flue ... there is not cure (-;
 
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From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Andrew Ross
Sent: 08 November 2009 16:50
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Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] GDAL and ESRI

Hi All,

Adding to this discussion, there are a spectrum of open source licenses measured in terms of what they allow to derivative works. At one end of the spectrum, the GPL stipulates that if you base your software on a component that is licensed with the GPL license *and* distribute it, that derivative work must be licensed under the GPL license.

On the other end of the spectrum, there are licenses that are very liberal in terms of what they allow - BSD and MIT are good examples of this. Reusing a component licensed under the BSD or MIT license does affect a derivative work.

In terms of the GPL, distribution is a key. If you do not distribute your derivative work, then it does not become GPL. An example of this would be strictly in-house use, or developing a web based service. The exception, be aware there is a different class of the GPL, the Affero GPL that applies in the case of web services. With this license, you do not have to redistribute to trigger the "GPL contamination" - building a web service is enough to do so.

There's a good video on what you should look out for and relative merits of various licenses here: http://www.fosslc.org/drupal/node/523 The 3 licenses discussed in this video are at opposite ends and roughly in the middle of the above spectrum.

Andrew

2009/11/7 Yves Jacolin (free) <[hidden email]>
Le samedi 07 novembre 2009, Ravi a écrit :
> How come ESRI uses GDAL too, does open source support closed source too.

Hi,

It depends the OS Licence. GDAL licence is BSD-Like  [1].

Some other are usinng GPL-LIKe licence. This kind of licence does not allow
closed source to user open source licence. They need to "open" their source
using a GPL-Like licence [2].

This is quiet complicated ;)

Y.
[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BSD_licenses
[2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_General_Public_License
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pouvoir, de la puissance d'agir." M Gauchet

"Give freedom to people is not enough, we also have to give them the power
to use this freedom, to act". M Gauchet
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