Fwd: Visual roadmaps for prospective users, integrators and developers (was: How would you position Plone?)

[Matt Hamilton]

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> From: Matt Hamilton <[hidden email]>
> Date: 21 April 2009 15:24:24 BST
> To: Graham Perrin <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [Evangelism] Visual roadmaps for prospective users,  
> integrators and developers (was: How would you position Plone?)
>
>
> On 21 Apr 2009, at 11:58, Graham Perrin wrote:
>
>> On the subject of intersecting lines and subway maps: at
>> <http://www.akasig.org/2003/12/11/zope-and-plone-learning-roadmap/>  
>> there's
>> a learning-oriented graphic. It's old (2003) but still, I found it  
>> very
>> appealing ( http://www.diigo.com/05kox highlights ).
>
> Also, (and I'm not sure if this was in Dylan's original email) there  
> is the CMS Watch Vendor Map:
>
> http://www.cmswatch.com/vendormap/
>
> It does a great job of showing Plone... the 2008 one I think was  
> slightly better than the 2009 one, but still it is very good. It  
> shows Plone on a lot more lines than any of the other similar  
> products.  We use it at Expos and the likes to 'relate' Plone to  
> other systems. People wander around expos and see massive booths of  
> names they have already heard of, when they get to the Plone booth  
> we have something to show them how Plone relates to those other  
> systems.
>
> -Matt
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[Dylan Jay]

On 22/04/2009, at 12:24 AM, Matt Hamilton wrote:

> [meant to send back to list]
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> Begin forwarded message:
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>> From: Matt Hamilton <[hidden email]>
>> Date: 21 April 2009 15:24:24 BST
>> To: Graham Perrin <[hidden email]>
>> Subject: Re: [Evangelism] Visual roadmaps for prospective users,  
>> integrators and developers (was: How would you position Plone?)
>>
>>
>> On 21 Apr 2009, at 11:58, Graham Perrin wrote:
>>
>>> On the subject of intersecting lines and subway maps: at
>>> <http://www.akasig.org/2003/12/11/zope-and-plone-learning-roadmap/ 
>>> > there's
>>> a learning-oriented graphic. It's old (2003) but still, I found it  
>>> very
>>> appealing ( http://www.diigo.com/05kox highlights ).
>>
>> Also, (and I'm not sure if this was in Dylan's original email)  
>> there is the CMS Watch Vendor Map:
>>
>> http://www.cmswatch.com/vendormap/

Hey thanks I just put that into my presentation next to this  
positioning slide I just made.



Much more simplistic but thats the idea.



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[Mark A Corum]

Dylan,

Is it possible to get access to the data used in creating your "Plone
Positioning"  chart?  I've done hundreds  of these over the years and
would like to try to get at the heart of your message.

Mark


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On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 11:11 AM, Dylan Jay <[hidden email]> wrote:

> On 22/04/2009, at 12:24 AM, Matt Hamilton wrote:
>
>> [meant to send back to list]
>>
>> Begin forwarded message:
>>
>>> From: Matt Hamilton <[hidden email]>
>>> Date: 21 April 2009 15:24:24 BST
>>> To: Graham Perrin <[hidden email]>
>>> Subject: Re: [Evangelism] Visual roadmaps for prospective users,
>>> integrators and developers (was: How would you position Plone?)
>>>
>>>
>>> On 21 Apr 2009, at 11:58, Graham Perrin wrote:
>>>
>>>> On the subject of intersecting lines and subway maps: at
>>>> <http://www.akasig.org/2003/12/11/zope-and-plone-learning-roadmap/>
>>>> there's
>>>> a learning-oriented graphic. It's old (2003) but still, I found it very
>>>> appealing ( http://www.diigo.com/05kox highlights ).
>>>
>>> Also, (and I'm not sure if this was in Dylan's original email) there is
>>> the CMS Watch Vendor Map:
>>>
>>> http://www.cmswatch.com/vendormap/
>
> Hey thanks I just put that into my presentation next to this positioning
> slide I just made.
>
>
> Much more simplistic but thats the idea.
>
>
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[Dylan Jay]

On 22/04/2009, at 4:08 AM, Mark A Corum wrote:

> Dylan,
>
> Is it possible to get access to the data used in creating your "Plone
> Positioning"  chart?  I've done hundreds  of these over the years and
> would like to try to get at the heart of your message.

It's based on a similar one used in an elcom presentation. I don't  
know how accurate that one was but not very in regard to open source  
CMS's. I added the extra axis about community OSS and put Plone on the  
chart.
I was would appreciate any further information to make it more accurate.

> Mark
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> On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 11:11 AM, Dylan Jay <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> On 22/04/2009, at 12:24 AM, Matt Hamilton wrote:
>>
>>> [meant to send back to list]
>>>
>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>
>>>> From: Matt Hamilton <[hidden email]>
>>>> Date: 21 April 2009 15:24:24 BST
>>>> To: Graham Perrin <[hidden email]>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Evangelism] Visual roadmaps for prospective users,
>>>> integrators and developers (was: How would you position Plone?)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 21 Apr 2009, at 11:58, Graham Perrin wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On the subject of intersecting lines and subway maps: at
>>>>> <http://www.akasig.org/2003/12/11/zope-and-plone-learning- 
>>>>> roadmap/>
>>>>> there's
>>>>> a learning-oriented graphic. It's old (2003) but still, I found  
>>>>> it very
>>>>> appealing ( http://www.diigo.com/05kox highlights ).
>>>>
>>>> Also, (and I'm not sure if this was in Dylan's original email)  
>>>> there is
>>>> the CMS Watch Vendor Map:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.cmswatch.com/vendormap/
>>
>> Hey thanks I just put that into my presentation next to this  
>> positioning
>> slide I just made.
>>
>>
>> Much more simplistic but thats the idea.
>>
>>
>>
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