[Fwd: Re: Curriculum review]
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Charlie Schweik
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Hi All,
I meant to reply to the list, not just to Tyler. For those interested in the Curriculum discussion, see the attached two posts. Let's see how far we can take the curriculum effort with a target of a real accomplishment for next year's FOSS4Geo meeting. Charlie Hi Charlie, Not sure if you meant to take this offline. If not, you can move the following discussion back onto the list. We mainly talked about the BoK stuff during the BoF :) My hope in using it is that we then at least have something to aim for. So I hope to have some well defined thoughts by Friday on a couple aspects of the BoK curriculum. == Data == 1 - to be able to describe the types of sample datasets required for each section (I'll focus on the technology parts of the curriculum, as opposed to the more philosophical ones). This way the precise dataset becomes less important and other potential contributors can use their favourite if they like. 2 - use the NC Grass dataset as a reference for above (http://www.grassbook.org/data_menu3rd.php) I see the above two points as core and useful, aside from further FOSS teaching. == Tools == 3 - describe the types of tools and, generically, the steps required to teach the concept of a section. Likewise with #1, this will follow more of a pattern, with #4 teaching a specific. I'm sure it won't be perfect, but should let others contributors customise the results to their software of choice. 4 - use a particular OSGeo tool to show #3. I'll try to use consistent tools and datasets wherever possible, so that they flow generally between sections without huge breaks. Also, I will not be writing anything about installing or generally using a particular software package - that can be another job in the future or may be done already for many projects elsewhere. My hope with the above is that it is somewhat education level independent - instead focusing on the GIS&T concepts instead of a particular domain or age level. Naturally we could plug/pull differetn datasets or technology to make things harder/easier depending on audiences. But I hope that this will be a good first start, with a recognised univ. curriculum backing it. How we package it and who we package it for may be deferred - at least I hope so ;-) I really would support a funded workshop and will do all I can to help make it fly - keep me posted. Tyler ----------------original message----------------- From: "Charlie Schweik" [hidden email] To: "Tyler Mitchell (OSGeo)" [hidden email] Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 21:16:27 -0500 ------------------------------------------------- > Tyler Mitchell (OSGeo) wrote: >> Just an FYI that over the next couple days I'll be meeting with Scott >> Emmons, a GIS colleague (and fellow FOSS enthusiast) from one of my >> nearby universities (http://www.unbc.ca/). A few of us will be >> going over some of the curriculum ideas and the Body of Knowledge >> guide in face-to-face meetings on campus. I'll be looking a bit closer >> at some of the points we discussed at FOSS4G and will report back here. >> > Great Tyler. I was thinking that the Body of Knowledge document might be > a good place to start. Another (compatible?) idea might be to try and > define > curricula for various levels > > High school > Undergrad > Graduate > > (I also find myself wondering what might be different for people > studying in different fields. E.g., Geography, versus other natural > resource management fields, or some social science fields (e.g., > Anthropology, Public Policy/Administration), etc.) > > This could get complicated, so perhaps we need to start off with a > concrete focus -- e.g., a Certificate Program in GIS supported by open > source technologies -- and then move "outward" from there. > > From that we might be able to inventory links to content that provide > useful information for instructors, such as what we saw in a few recent > posts on the OSGeo listserv. I say these points without refreshing > myself on what was said in the BOF -- but hopefully I am in line with > what others might be thinking. > > In short, have your discussion and then let's plan to hold some kind of > group conference call (could we use Skype for something like that with a > potentially large group?). > > I'd also like to formulate a 2-3 page proposal for a Workshop on > curriculum design and see if we can get some US National Science > Foundation support for it. > I don't know if anyone on this list has access to comparable European > (or other country) funding agencies. But what we need first, I think, > is a short description of the ideas we have and then what we want to do > in a face-to-face workshop. > > Cheers > Charlie > > > [cschweik.vcf] begin:vcard fn:Charlie Schweik n:Schweik;Charlie org:University of Massachusetts, Amherst;Natural Resources Conservation and Center for Public Policy and Administration adr:;;217 Holdsworth Hall;Amherst;MA;01003;USA title:Associate Professor tel;work:413 545 1824 note:Associate Director, National Center for Digital Government (www.ncdg.org) url:http://people.umass.edu/cschweik version:2.1 end:vcard _______________________________________________ Edu_discuss mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/edu_discuss |
Helena Mitasova
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Charlie and all,
Regarding the grassbook NC data set, there is also a simpler version available here http://grass.osgeo.org/download/data.php (I can provide it as shape files and ArcGrid ascii or other raster format as well if there is an interest) You may remember my suggestion to create data sets with the same names as in this data set for different geographical locations and countries so that a single tutorial can be used with data from different places. This should make the development of tutorials more efficient and the students can do the assignments with data from the country they can relate to. For the larger data set I will be cleaning up the shapefiles and rasters as needed and adding the official metadata directly to the files. I am also adding more specialized mapsets, such as time series of coastal, lidar based DEMs for more advanced courses. So what I wanted to say is that I am actively maintaining the data sets and have a lot of class material based on it available (mostly based on the grassbook examples but I keep adding and modifying it as GRASS and our GIS program evolves) and I will be happy to make adjustments or additions (that do not break existing course and book material) as needed Helena Helena Mitasova Associate Professor Department of Marine, Earth and Atmospheric Sciences North Carolina State University 1125 Jordan Hall NCSU Box 8208 Raleigh, NC 27695-8208 http://skagit.meas.ncsu.edu/~helena/ email: [hidden email] ph: 919-513-1327 (no voicemail) fax 919 515-7802 On Nov 4, 2009, at 9:12 AM, Charlie Schweik wrote: > Hi All, > I meant to reply to the list, not just to Tyler. For those > interested in the Curriculum discussion, see the attached two posts. > Let's see how far we can take the curriculum effort with a target of > a real accomplishment for next year's FOSS4Geo meeting. > Charlie > > From: "Tyler Mitchell (OSGeo)" <[hidden email]> > Date: November 3, 2009 11:40:13 PM EST > To: Charlie Schweik <[hidden email]> > Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Edu] Curriculum review > > > Hi Charlie, > Not sure if you meant to take this offline. If not, you can move the > following discussion back onto the list. > > We mainly talked about the BoK stuff during the BoF :) My hope in > using it > is that we then at least have something to aim for. So I hope to > have some > well defined thoughts by Friday on a couple aspects of the BoK > curriculum. > > == Data == > 1 - to be able to describe the types of sample datasets required for > each > section (I'll focus on the technology parts of the curriculum, as > opposed to > the more philosophical ones). This way the precise dataset becomes > less > important and other potential contributors can use their favourite > if they > like. > > 2 - use the NC Grass dataset as a reference for above > (http://www.grassbook.org/data_menu3rd.php) > > I see the above two points as core and useful, aside from further FOSS > teaching. > > == Tools == > 3 - describe the types of tools and, generically, the steps required > to > teach the concept of a section. Likewise with #1, this will follow > more of a > pattern, with #4 teaching a specific. I'm sure it won't be perfect, > but > should let others contributors customise the results to their > software of > choice. > > 4 - use a particular OSGeo tool to show #3. > > I'll try to use consistent tools and datasets wherever possible, so > that > they flow generally between sections without huge breaks. Also, I > will not > be writing anything about installing or generally using a particular > software package - that can be another job in the future or may be > done > already for many projects elsewhere. > > My hope with the above is that it is somewhat education level > independent - > instead focusing on the GIS&T concepts instead of a particular > domain or age > level. Naturally we could plug/pull differetn datasets or technology > to make > things harder/easier depending on audiences. But I hope that this > will be a > good first start, with a recognised univ. curriculum backing it. How > we > package it and who we package it for may be deferred - at least I > hope so > ;-) > > I really would support a funded workshop and will do all I can to > help make > it fly - keep me posted. > > Tyler > ----------------original message----------------- > From: "Charlie Schweik" [hidden email] > To: "Tyler Mitchell (OSGeo)" [hidden email] > Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 21:16:27 -0500 > ------------------------------------------------- > > >> Tyler Mitchell (OSGeo) wrote: >>> Just an FYI that over the next couple days I'll be meeting with >>> Scott >>> Emmons, a GIS colleague (and fellow FOSS enthusiast) from one of my >>> nearby universities (http://www.unbc.ca/). A few of us will be >>> going over some of the curriculum ideas and the Body of Knowledge >>> guide in face-to-face meetings on campus. I'll be looking a bit >>> closer >>> at some of the points we discussed at FOSS4G and will report back >>> here. >>> >> Great Tyler. I was thinking that the Body of Knowledge document >> might be >> a good place to start. Another (compatible?) idea might be to try and >> define >> curricula for various levels >> >> High school >> Undergrad >> Graduate >> >> (I also find myself wondering what might be different for people >> studying in different fields. E.g., Geography, versus other natural >> resource management fields, or some social science fields (e.g., >> Anthropology, Public Policy/Administration), etc.) >> >> This could get complicated, so perhaps we need to start off with a >> concrete focus -- e.g., a Certificate Program in GIS supported by >> open >> source technologies -- and then move "outward" from there. >> >> From that we might be able to inventory links to content that provide >> useful information for instructors, such as what we saw in a few >> recent >> posts on the OSGeo listserv. I say these points without refreshing >> myself on what was said in the BOF -- but hopefully I am in line with >> what others might be thinking. >> >> In short, have your discussion and then let's plan to hold some >> kind of >> group conference call (could we use Skype for something like that >> with a >> potentially large group?). >> >> I'd also like to formulate a 2-3 page proposal for a Workshop on >> curriculum design and see if we can get some US National Science >> Foundation support for it. >> I don't know if anyone on this list has access to comparable European >> (or other country) funding agencies. But what we need first, I think, >> is a short description of the ideas we have and then what we want >> to do >> in a face-to-face workshop. >> >> Cheers >> Charlie >> >> >> > > > > > <cschweik.vcf>_______________________________________________ > Edu_discuss mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/edu_discuss _______________________________________________ Edu_discuss mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/edu_discuss |
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