[Fwd: FW: [EEA-090127.0008] FW: Legal issues concerning the download of CORINE2000 tiles with "wget" (=linux-tool) and more questions]
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Nikos Alexandris
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Dear "OSGeo - Public Geospatial Data" Committee,
Dear Mr. Zachariadis, I contacted the EEA concerning my request to host the Greek CORINE land cover dataset. I am forwarding you the reply from EEA. My questions directed to EEA concerning the CORINE land cover dataset for Greece where: 1. Are there any further restrictions besides the "Rights" [6] that are clearly stated in the respective web-page[1]? 2. Does any legal issue arise from the use of wget to download CORINE2000 tiles from the web-link mentioned in the references [3]? 3. Is it illegal to host the ready-to-use "greek" CORINE2000 map (ESRI Shapefile) to an open-access server with other public domain geospatial data? The message I have sent to EEA is to be read in the forwarded message and the reply from Mrs. Ana Sousa as well. As far as I understand there are _no_ legal issues. However, allow me please to focus on 2 things: i. Mrs. Ana Sousa wrote: The European seamless Corine database is under copyright of the EEA and within public domain. Public domain information may be used free of charge, both for commercial or non-commercial purposes, provided the source is acknowledged. The acknowledgement should read: "(c) EEA, Copenhagen, 2007" Comment: The phrase "both for commercial or non-commercial purposes" is something I read for the first time with respect to the CORINE land data base. If I am not wrong, the "Rights" (=terms of use) [*] are talking clearly about "not to use the data/applications for commercial purposes unless the Agency has expressly granted the right to do so". --- ii. The EEA does not encourage the proliferation of different download facilities. Furthermore, she suggests to contact (greek) national authorities and present them my tutorial about CORINE with GRASS (in the Greek language). Comment: I will be very happy to receive a positive response from national authorities. Nevertheless, the tutorial I have prepared is clearly targeting GRASS-GIS users and the OSGeo community in general. From this point of view, the dataset (along with its attribute tables) that is ready-to-use is part of the tutorial (even if it is the end-product of the tutorial). My personal desire is to host this dataset in OSGeo. --- I kindly ask you to review Mrs. Sousa's response. Meanwhile, I will probably re-contact Mrs. Sousa, this time cc-ing to the [hidden email] list and to the contact persons of the national authorities. Kind regards, Nikos --- * <http://dataservice.eea.europa.eu/dataservice/metadetails.asp?id=950> In the section "Rights": EEA grants free access to all its data/applications provided that the user agrees: * to acknowledge the source as follows: Copyright EEA, Copenhagen, 2007 * to display a link to the EEA web site http://www.eea.europa.eu * not to use the data/applications for commercial purposes unless the Agency has expressly granted the right to do so Dear Mr Nikos Alexandris, Regarding your request concerning potential legal issues arising from the use of the CORINE2000 dataset, and before replying directly to your questions, I would like to try to explain what is the situation regarding the dissemination of the European and the national Corine datasets: EEA is "responsible" for the dissemination of the European Corine dataset (which we do by means for the CLC download facility found in the following web link - http://www.eea.europa.eu/themes/landuse/clc-download). The national datasets should, in principle, be disseminated by the national authorities. Whenever a country is not able to provide a dissemination service for the national dataset, the public can use EEA download service and select the tiles that correspond to the country of interest. The European seamless Corine database is under copyright of the EEA and within public domain. Public domain information may be used free of charge, both for commercial or non-commercial purposes, provided the source is acknowledged. The acknowledgement should read: "(c) EEA, Copenhagen, 2007" In general we do not encourage the proliferation of different sites for download of data. In general we suggest that a reference is made to our download facility http://www.eea.europa.eu/themes/landuse/clc-download thus avoiding duplication of information in several places. We do not encourage it because, whenever a tile is changed because of some correction that was made to it, a new file will be produced. This way we risk ending up with different versions spreading around, which is not desirable. It is at its source that the information is better managed and kept and EEA cannot cope with keeping other download sites informed about changes. Regarding your questions, and as far as EEA is concerned, we do not see any legal issues arising from your first and second questions. Regarding the third one, as previously explained, we do not encourage the proliferation of different download facilities. Nevertheless, since you are only interested in the Greek dataset, I see the possibility that you do it in connection with the Greek authorities responsible for Corine production and dissemination. I strongly suggest that you contact the national authorities and show them your proposal. I believe that it may be of interest for the Greek authorities. I put in copy the National Focal Point for the EEA (Mrs. Mata Aravantinou - [hidden email]) and the National Reference centre for spatial analysis and land cover, responsible for Corine production (Annie Katsina - [hidden email]). If you need more assistance, please, fell free to contact me again. Have a nice day. Best regards Ana Sousa -----Original Message----- From: Ellen Johannesen Sent: 27 January 2009 15:08 To: Ove Caspersen; Ana Sousa Subject: FW: [EEA-090127.0008] FW: Legal issues concerning the download of CORINE2000 tiles with "wget" (=linux-tool) and more questions Hiya, Not sure which of you to consult on this case? If you would like to respond to the client directly please add me in copy so I can register the case in the IC database. Here is the contact info: Nikos Alexandris [hidden email] Thanks in advance. Ellen -----Original Message----- From: Nikos Alexandris [mailto:[hidden email]] Sent: 27 January 2009 14:59 To: Ellen Johannesen Subject: Legal issues concerning the download of CORINE2000 tiles with "wget" (=linux-tool) and more questions Dear Madams and Sirs, I have a specific question concerning potential legal issues using the CORINE2000 dataset. I have prepared a tutorial (in the Greek language) upon how to use the CORINE2000 tiles (as ESRI Shapefiles) [1] using GRASS-GIS [2]. Specifically the tutorial demonstrates how to build the CORINE2000 map for Greece. One of the most interesting parts of this tutorial is the demonstration of the tool "wget" under Linux in order to easily obtain the CORINE2000 tiles of interest from a specific web-link [3]. In the tutorial I explicitly express that the data are: - NOT for commercial use - provided by the EEA (source acknowledged as: Copyright EEA, Copenhagen 2007) along with the link http://www.eea.europa.eu However, before I proceed to publish the tutorial on a ("greek") blog which is dedicated to issues about public domain information and data [4], I want to be ensured that there will be no legal issues. In addition I would like to provide the "greek" CORINE2000 map (Shapefile, ~86MB tarzipped) on a server which host's public domain geospatial data (e.g. [5]). My questions are: 1. Are there any further restrictions besides the "Rights" [6] that are clearly stated in the respective web-page[1]? 2. Does any legal issue arise from the use of wget to download CORINE2000 tiles from the web-link mentioned in the references [3]? 3. Is it illegal to host the ready-to-use "greek" CORINE2000 map (ESRI Shapefile) to an open-access server with other public domain geospatial data? Thank you for your attention. Kind regards, Nikos Alexandris --- References: ----------- [1] http://dataservice.eea.europa.eu/dataservice/metadetails.asp?id=950 [2] http://grass.osgeo.org/ [3] http://dataservice.eea.europa.eu/staticfiles/landcover_tiles_v2/... #specific name of tile needs to be [4] http://tilaphos.blogspot.com/ [5] http://www.osgeo.org/geodata [6] Rights: EEA grants free access to all its data/applications provided that the user agrees: * to acknowledge the source as follows: Copyright EEA, Copenhagen, 2007 * to display a link to the EEA web site http://www.eea.europa.eu * not to use the data/applications for commercial purposes unless the Agency has expressly granted the right to do so _______________________________________________ Geodata mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/geodata |
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