Editing QT *.ui files
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octatone
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Hey guys,
I wanted to contribute to the project and I thought I could go through and clean up some of the UI elements' text, as they are not very uniform (some things capitalized, some things not). I can build from source and checkout via svn and just wanted some info on how the different resources are pulled together at build time. If I want to edit interface labels, can I simply edit the <strings/> in the corresponding QT *.ui XML files? Or is there a different preferred method of going about this? |
Thomas Bonte
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I don't want to temper your enthusiasm, but as David pointed out recently in a comment I don't find anymore, it might be better to delay this effort until 0.9.5 is released. Otherwise, there will be quite some extra translation work to be done which will take quite some time.
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Toby Smithe-2
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Hash: SHA256 2009/7/12 octatone : > If I want to edit interface labels, can I simply edit the in the > corresponding QT *.ui XML files? Or is there a different preferred method of > going about this? I'm not a Qt developer (I'm just the Debian maintainer), but in the process of adding some Debian-related information to the about box (aboutbox.ui), I use the Qt Designer. On Debian systems, this is available in the `qt4-designer` package, but on other platforms, I wouldn't be able to say where to get it. There seems to be some information at [1]. [1] http://www.qtsoftware.com/products/developer-tools Regards - -- Toby Smithe :: http://fulltinreality.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Use GnuPG with Firefox : http://getfiregpg.org (Version: 0.7.6) iQQcBAEBCAAGBQJKWkb3AAoJELgZxdA5OevuPR4f+wanORYM0Ej830hC6cD2RkgY a/YchyizLx1LYHdLACCasx9gImUxWCElDBeUWiIBxhQSRWYy8St2jNEgTiKXZByD r9GRPH4EaIklS97s+ejiaeSsrUC9gHuoUxkW1WNr3qlNQmsGg3j2eI6NgRLdcGGv Lexxb00Tov72fBmiT3CUY8Q21DpDZPtcc6RGeJogR+acILlrTyYY/GLmviZAabgc ACsPskBlaSQH3vSojdIijfzkHkpa/64xv7qba6WENm+JlMl1KuZS4LunMmX3OMeR 8jKgm8iN4qzaIdrxiIgmm+1yWuW+oJRw/Fa25iK1qHCTEwYDEb4Ile1adhLQkCOY bD0jkJfo/MsRGq5zSSAX1P5/6iuSn0e8JLNKEukLWQtydk2cWCS4iAG7QsWfRYB5 8PIa0Jje/ki+FqNC2Hyhz8PZmRGNK6sLUxPD6/RHn13v0k34y02tnWue0k6A0SND i/96sBdBvZ0TUaLsVpeU8PtSb0AVpIOlo7Lk6YxT4qnLbHVWlXQ4temRUl+EtVnZ oBfnC85fvQW1CaBwznOESCNDf659+8CR8bKBce42tvBXTpGD758Tb8+HIs/0bEw3 QKnbs7+xwgFgMDi0Zhpp5bDavXTlxSwqJPG1jyGdP18T83aKtcDhkQ4z0wb5veKo JDLdmCQG7zTZSLN9pTiDYpOLNkFPluNshT1n1bNVPsUEluXiifUK0DwW8WvxWkEs /jmrTWsYEZ+wQaKN97GLLbIqcmkx0C36QxYQTOohGLZBPBkee27f4kgpoJiRJd4q O2tRjsVFTwxrnCmCNVlFqtjSHqS/rW2Fv4KBIhY/O/XgQW8vA0CgrdrgneEax3kI ZEnUHP5wzDu5G8vWAcwMXZ6MMTACjDRGw4nbPS+y9SF3vQjPqtjaDMJQBlKvFiOt OYm+U2POkLxKMM+LzjnTj3s1RebeHY/1BbjpOS5PmrIYaB2MoFFgUOc+Wua7TgEW YVkqyeVL57yPWYdWtR5O8/XXqAcZhKwteanfcxi6wDXC206zppvUBl+jND0ZHB21 zhxccWZLDYkGNHXDmOImPjAp1TCcDYxew1yILjQbBGbTXptzqa2KddtK7HVZs7AH 2L06RvMP/qfWPfzIqbaqev2nxdUasUvRf+j7Yej7514xs1H2TE6Ux2+nZIV5Hcfg XGlyFu5X22eAiH2PC3vuSxCpIKXgan5cBfrBD9tLwpgJ5B82fBBvGtBG5TE/JhaZ M17zcNoqJDODGrqf0xMCi2Q2zk1bdkT3Dej1nbHtxxFz5YdNzoc98K/NqV61JM7s ap0NwLr56JZACD7xfL25WWb/fSaorvIUJ5F7RgdJBqZ9gt1g0at14l9F9t3ClxU= =9Reu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Enter the BlackBerry Developer Challenge This is your chance to win up to $100,000 in prizes! For a limited time, vendors submitting new applications to BlackBerry App World(TM) will have the opportunity to enter the BlackBerry Developer Challenge. See full prize details at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/Challenge _______________________________________________ Mscore-developer mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mscore-developer |
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octatone
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Yeah, I figured out to just open up the main QT *.pro file in QT and edit through that.
Can someone give me a better explanation as to why we need/should hold off cleaning up the UI label formatting inconsistencies? I'm guessing it might have something do with the dialogs not being finalized in terms of what is going to be in them in the final 0.9.5 release?
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David Bolton-2
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Octatone,
The thread referred to by Thomas is here: http://musescore.org/en/node/1548#comment-3175 If you change the capitalization of a language other than English then there is not a problem although I would recommend talking to the person who is currently maintaining the localization before making any major changes. If you make even a small change (such as capitalization) to the English UI then all 19 other localizations have to manually retranslated that word again. Due to the way Qt works, if a localization team fails to retranslate the new word then it displays in English. Obviously this is not a good idea right before a release and not fair to the localizers. David octatone wrote: > Yeah, I figured out to just open up the main QT *.pro file in QT and edit > through that. > > Can someone give me a better explanation as to why we need/should hold off > cleaning up the UI label formatting inconsistencies? I'm guessing it might > have something do with the dialogs not being finalized in terms of what is > going to be in them in the final 0.9.5 release? > > > > Toby Smithe-2 wrote: > >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA256 >> >> 2009/7/12 octatone : >> >>> If I want to edit interface labels, can I simply edit the in the >>> corresponding QT *.ui XML files? Or is there a different preferred method >>> of >>> going about this? >>> >> I'm not a Qt developer (I'm just the Debian maintainer), but in the >> process of adding some Debian-related information to the about box >> (aboutbox.ui), I use the Qt Designer. On Debian systems, this is >> available in the `qt4-designer` package, but on other platforms, I >> wouldn't be able to say where to get it. There seems to be some >> information at [1]. >> >> [1] http://www.qtsoftware.com/products/developer-tools >> >> Regards >> >> - -- >> Toby Smithe :: http://fulltinreality.com >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Enter the BlackBerry Developer Challenge This is your chance to win up to $100,000 in prizes! For a limited time, vendors submitting new applications to BlackBerry App World(TM) will have the opportunity to enter the BlackBerry Developer Challenge. See full prize details at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/Challenge _______________________________________________ Mscore-developer mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mscore-developer |
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octatone
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But aren't we digging a deeper and deeper hole by not taking care of this earlier rather than late? Telling people to do localizations on an inconsistent English UI?
Why are the localizations reliant on the UI strings and not the QT element names e.g. "label14", etc.? (I imagine this is a QT limitation, but surely we can figure out a workaround?) I'm not talking about modifying the strings other than capitolizations, so can't we write a script to modify localizations to match the current English strings at any given time? (I would be willing to take a stab at this) I'm new to QT, can you show me the steps to create your _ts files? [sorry for all the questions]
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wschweer
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There is a way to change the english strings without touching the
translations. Simple create an american english translation. This would hide the internal strings. Later on they could be integrated(removed) by changing the strings in the program source and in every translation file. For cosmetic changes this could be done without changing the translations itself. Am Montag, 13. Juli 2009 06:38:43 schrieb octatone: > But aren't we digging a deeper and deeper hole by not taking care of this > earlier rather than late? Telling people to do localizations on an > inconsistent English UI? > > Why are the localizations reliant on the UI strings and not the QT element > names e.g. "label14", etc.? > (I imagine this is a QT limitation, but surely we can figure out a > workaround?) > > I'm not talking about modifying the strings other than capitolizations, so > can't we write a script to modify localizations to match the current > English strings at any given time? (I would be willing to take a stab at > this) > > I'm new to QT, can you show me the steps to create your _ts files? > > [sorry for all the questions] > > David Bolton-2 wrote: > > Octatone, > > > > The thread referred to by Thomas is here: > > http://musescore.org/en/node/1548#comment-3175 > > > > If you change the capitalization of a language other than English then > > there is not a problem although I would recommend talking to the person > > who is currently maintaining the localization before making any major > > changes. > > > > If you make even a small change (such as capitalization) to the English > > UI then all 19 other localizations have to manually retranslated that > > word again. Due to the way Qt works, if a localization team fails to > > retranslate the new word then it displays in English. Obviously this is > > not a good idea right before a release and not fair to the localizers. > > > > David > > > > octatone wrote: > >> Yeah, I figured out to just open up the main QT *.pro file in QT and > >> edit through that. > >> > >> Can someone give me a better explanation as to why we need/should hold > >> off > >> cleaning up the UI label formatting inconsistencies? I'm guessing it > >> might > >> have something do with the dialogs not being finalized in terms of what > >> is > >> going to be in them in the final 0.9.5 release? > >> > >> Toby Smithe-2 wrote: > >>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > >>> Hash: SHA256 > >>> > >>> 2009/7/12 octatone : > >>>> If I want to edit interface labels, can I simply edit the in the > >>>> corresponding QT *.ui XML files? Or is there a different preferred > >>>> method > >>>> of > >>>> going about this? > >>> > >>> I'm not a Qt developer (I'm just the Debian maintainer), but in the > >>> process of adding some Debian-related information to the about box > >>> (aboutbox.ui), I use the Qt Designer. On Debian systems, this is > >>> available in the `qt4-designer` package, but on other platforms, I > >>> wouldn't be able to say where to get it. There seems to be some > >>> information at [1]. > >>> > >>> [1] http://www.qtsoftware.com/products/developer-tools > >>> > >>> Regards > >>> > >>> - -- > >>> Toby Smithe :: http://fulltinreality.com > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >----- Enter the BlackBerry Developer Challenge > > This is your chance to win up to $100,000 in prizes! For a limited time, > > vendors submitting new applications to BlackBerry App World(TM) will have > > the opportunity to enter the BlackBerry Developer Challenge. See full > > prize > > details at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/Challenge > > _______________________________________________ > > Mscore-developer mailing list > > [hidden email] > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mscore-developer ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Enter the BlackBerry Developer Challenge This is your chance to win up to $100,000 in prizes! For a limited time, vendors submitting new applications to BlackBerry App World(TM) will have the opportunity to enter the BlackBerry Developer Challenge. See full prize details at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/Challenge _______________________________________________ Mscore-developer mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mscore-developer |
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octatone
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David,
Can you create a en_US and en_GB to match the ts files you have been providing to translators so we may clean up the English inconsistencies?
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