Donations for the GRASS project

[Markus Neteler]

PSC,
(cc President of GFOSS.it)

during the last Italian GFOSS/GRASS meeting (last week) we discussed again
to add a "donate to GRASS" button (via Paypal) to
http://www.gfoss.it

(also site of the Italian OSGeo chapter).

Given the fact that OSGeo is not interested in small donations (in my
opinion OSGeo errs here ignoring the potential community donations,
see for an old proposal: http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Microdonations
and remember how Wikipedia and OSM get money), I suggest to activate
the button.

The money is obviously hold in trust by GFOSS.it for the GRASS project.
We could, once some money is accumulated, co-finance bug-squashing
meetings, hack-sessings, promotional material or even invent our
own "GRASS winter/spring/... of code" with a competition for the best
proposals.
GFOSS.it already does the same for the QGIS project.

When operative, we can clone the button on the GRASS main
Web site, too.

Any objections to proceed?

Markus

On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 12:46 PM, Markus Neteler <[hidden email]> wrote:

> On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 4:01 PM, Frank Warmerdam <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Markus Neteler wrote:
>>
>> > While we are at it: do we have guidelines how to set up a new
>> > sponsorship program? I want to launch one for GRASS now given
>> > that we no longer use the IRST server as primary infrastructure.
>> >
>> > I see
>> >  http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Project_Sponsorship
>> > but that doesn't address our needs. We want to collect small
>> > money donations first which aren't under level regulations.
>> > Think "donate button".
>> >
>>
>>  Markus,
>>
>>  We have no program for this, and the sponsorship program was explicitly
>>  established to handle larger amounts because of a concern that small
>>  amounts would prove to be a hassle to manage properly.
>>
>>  Perhaps the finance committee could consider mechanisms for handling
>>  project directed small donations efficiently.
>
> At this point we could set up our own mechanism (for now).
> E.g. the German GRASS Association (a legal entity) could
> handle the money on a trust basis in a managed account - they
> do it already for the FOSSGIS.de series of conferences.
>
> Of course we need consulations in the PSC and 8if so) with
> the German GRASS Association first.
>
> I just wanted to explore the current situation.
>
> thanks,
> Markus
>

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[Dylan Beaudette]

On Tuesday 03 March 2009, Markus Neteler wrote:

> PSC,
> (cc President of GFOSS.it)
>
> during the last Italian GFOSS/GRASS meeting (last week) we discussed again
> to add a "donate to GRASS" button (via Paypal) to
> http://www.gfoss.it
>
> (also site of the Italian OSGeo chapter).
>
> Given the fact that OSGeo is not interested in small donations (in my
> opinion OSGeo errs here ignoring the potential community donations,
> see for an old proposal: http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Microdonations
> and remember how Wikipedia and OSM get money), I suggest to activate
> the button.
>
> The money is obviously hold in trust by GFOSS.it for the GRASS project.
> We could, once some money is accumulated, co-finance bug-squashing
> meetings, hack-sessings, promotional material or even invent our
> own "GRASS winter/spring/... of code" with a competition for the best
> proposals.
> GFOSS.it already does the same for the QGIS project.
>
> When operative, we can clone the button on the GRASS main
> Web site, too.
>
> Any objections to proceed?
>
> Markus

None. I think that this is a great idea. +1 from me. I think that small
donations allow interested individuals to contribute small sums when they
have it on hand.

Thanks for looking into this.

Dylan


> On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 12:46 PM, Markus Neteler <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 4:01 PM, Frank Warmerdam <[hidden email]>
wrote:

> >> Markus Neteler wrote:
> >> > While we are at it: do we have guidelines how to set up a new
> >> > sponsorship program? I want to launch one for GRASS now given
> >> > that we no longer use the IRST server as primary infrastructure.
> >> >
> >> > I see
> >> >  http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Project_Sponsorship
> >> > but that doesn't address our needs. We want to collect small
> >> > money donations first which aren't under level regulations.
> >> > Think "donate button".
> >>
> >>  Markus,
> >>
> >>  We have no program for this, and the sponsorship program was explicitly
> >>  established to handle larger amounts because of a concern that small
> >>  amounts would prove to be a hassle to manage properly.
> >>
> >>  Perhaps the finance committee could consider mechanisms for handling
> >>  project directed small donations efficiently.
> >
> > At this point we could set up our own mechanism (for now).
> > E.g. the German GRASS Association (a legal entity) could
> > handle the money on a trust basis in a managed account - they
> > do it already for the FOSSGIS.de series of conferences.
> >
> > Of course we need consulations in the PSC and 8if so) with
> > the German GRASS Association first.
> >
> > I just wanted to explore the current situation.
> >
> > thanks,
> > Markus
>
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OK by me if it does not mean more work for you.

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On Mar 3, 2009, at 7:30 AM, Markus Neteler wrote:

> PSC,
> (cc President of GFOSS.it)
>
> during the last Italian GFOSS/GRASS meeting (last week) we discussed  
> again
> to add a "donate to GRASS" button (via Paypal) to
> http://www.gfoss.it
>
> (also site of the Italian OSGeo chapter).
>
> Given the fact that OSGeo is not interested in small donations (in my
> opinion OSGeo errs here ignoring the potential community donations,
> see for an old proposal: http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Microdonations
> and remember how Wikipedia and OSM get money), I suggest to activate
> the button.
>
> The money is obviously hold in trust by GFOSS.it for the GRASS  
> project.
> We could, once some money is accumulated, co-finance bug-squashing
> meetings, hack-sessings, promotional material or even invent our
> own "GRASS winter/spring/... of code" with a competition for the best
> proposals.
> GFOSS.it already does the same for the QGIS project.
>
> When operative, we can clone the button on the GRASS main
> Web site, too.
>
> Any objections to proceed?
>
> Markus
>
> On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 12:46 PM, Markus Neteler <[hidden email]>  
> wrote:
>> On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 4:01 PM, Frank Warmerdam  
>> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>> Markus Neteler wrote:
>>>
>>>> While we are at it: do we have guidelines how to set up a new
>>>> sponsorship program? I want to launch one for GRASS now given
>>>> that we no longer use the IRST server as primary infrastructure.
>>>>
>>>> I see
>>>>  http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Project_Sponsorship
>>>> but that doesn't address our needs. We want to collect small
>>>> money donations first which aren't under level regulations.
>>>> Think "donate button".
>>>>
>>>
>>>  Markus,
>>>
>>>  We have no program for this, and the sponsorship program was  
>>> explicitly
>>>  established to handle larger amounts because of a concern that  
>>> small
>>>  amounts would prove to be a hassle to manage properly.
>>>
>>>  Perhaps the finance committee could consider mechanisms for  
>>> handling
>>>  project directed small donations efficiently.
>>
>> At this point we could set up our own mechanism (for now).
>> E.g. the German GRASS Association (a legal entity) could
>> handle the money on a trust basis in a managed account - they
>> do it already for the FOSSGIS.de series of conferences.
>>
>> Of course we need consulations in the PSC and 8if so) with
>> the German GRASS Association first.
>>
>> I just wanted to explore the current situation.
>>
>> thanks,
>> Markus
>>
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[Markus Neteler]

On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 12:54 AM, Michael Barton <[hidden email]> wrote:
> OK by me if it does not mean more work for you.

In the first place it means more work for the GFOSS.it
treasurer :)

Later on I'll redistribute potential workload here..

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[Helena Mitasova]

On Mar 3, 2009, at 9:30 AM, Markus Neteler wrote:

> PSC,
> (cc President of GFOSS.it)
>
> during the last Italian GFOSS/GRASS meeting (last week) we  
> discussed again
> to add a "donate to GRASS" button (via Paypal) to
> http://www.gfoss.it
>
> (also site of the Italian OSGeo chapter).
>
> Given the fact that OSGeo is not interested in small donations (in my
> opinion OSGeo errs here ignoring the potential community donations,
> see for an old proposal: http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Microdonations
> and remember how Wikipedia and OSM get money),

I think it is a huge mistake too - it is not just Wikipedia but many  
other
organizations from moveon.org to Obama, hugely benefited from repeated
small donations.

> I suggest to activate
> the button.
>
> The money is obviously hold in trust by GFOSS.it for the GRASS  
> project.
> We could, once some money is accumulated, co-finance bug-squashing
> meetings, hack-sessings, promotional material or even invent our
> own "GRASS winter/spring/... of code" with a competition for the best
> proposals.
> GFOSS.it already does the same for the QGIS project.
>
> When operative, we can clone the button on the GRASS main
> Web site, too.
>
> Any objections to proceed?

I am all for adding the button for small donations.

We just need to make sure that
there is a trusted person designated to manage the money and that the  
spending
is completely transparent - best posted on-line. Especially these  
days, people want
to know where their money is going, even if it is a small amount,

Helena

>
> Markus
>
> On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 12:46 PM, Markus Neteler  
> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 4:01 PM, Frank Warmerdam  
>> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>> Markus Neteler wrote:
>>>
>>>> While we are at it: do we have guidelines how to set up a new
>>>> sponsorship program? I want to launch one for GRASS now given
>>>> that we no longer use the IRST server as primary infrastructure.
>>>>
>>>> I see
>>>>  http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Project_Sponsorship
>>>> but that doesn't address our needs. We want to collect small
>>>> money donations first which aren't under level regulations.
>>>> Think "donate button".
>>>>
>>>
>>>  Markus,
>>>
>>>  We have no program for this, and the sponsorship program was  
>>> explicitly
>>>  established to handle larger amounts because of a concern that  
>>> small
>>>  amounts would prove to be a hassle to manage properly.
>>>
>>>  Perhaps the finance committee could consider mechanisms for  
>>> handling
>>>  project directed small donations efficiently.
>>
>> At this point we could set up our own mechanism (for now).
>> E.g. the German GRASS Association (a legal entity) could
>> handle the money on a trust basis in a managed account - they
>> do it already for the FOSSGIS.de series of conferences.
>>
>> Of course we need consulations in the PSC and 8if so) with
>> the German GRASS Association first.
>>
>> I just wanted to explore the current situation.
>>
>> thanks,
>> Markus
>>
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[Markus Neteler]

Dear PSC,

back to a long term issue... (with solution):

On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 4:30 PM, Markus Neteler <[hidden email]> wrote:

> PSC,
> (cc President of GFOSS.it)
>
> during the last Italian GFOSS/GRASS meeting (last week) we discussed again
> to add a "donate to GRASS" button (via Paypal) to
> http://www.gfoss.it
>
> (also site of the Italian OSGeo chapter).
>
> Given the fact that OSGeo is not interested in small donations (in my
> opinion OSGeo errs here ignoring the potential community donations,
> see for an old proposal: http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Microdonations
> and remember how Wikipedia and OSM get money), I suggest to activate
> the button.
>
> The money is obviously hold in trust by GFOSS.it for the GRASS project.
> We could, once some money is accumulated, co-finance bug-squashing
> meetings, hack-sessings, promotional material or even invent our
> own "GRASS winter/spring/... of code" with a competition for the best
> proposals.
> GFOSS.it already does the same for the QGIS project.
>
> When operative, we can clone the button on the GRASS main
> Web site, too.
>
> Any objections to proceed?

As we had positive feedback in this list, we have set up
the Paypal button along with the kind help of the GFOSS
association:

 http://grass.osgeo.org/donation.php

The page isn't linked yet on the site, as the wording may need
further fine tuning (please help!). For inspiration, see [1].

Looking forward to many micro-donations,

Markus

[1] http://www.apache.org/foundation/contributing.html
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[Markus Neteler]

On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 9:19 PM, Markus Neteler <[hidden email]> wrote:
...
> As we had positive feedback in this list, we have set up
> the Paypal button along with the kind help of the GFOSS
> association:
>
>  http://grass.osgeo.org/donation.php

Forgot to mention: the button is already running for some
weeks (you may remember) at:

http://gfoss.it/drupal/

So, essentially, here we re-use this button on the main GRASS page.
I should be put into CC for the incoming donations (some already
arrived).
Please try the button (I did)  :-)

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[Martin Landa]

Hi,

2009/5/8 Markus Neteler <[hidden email]>:
>>  http://grass.osgeo.org/donation.php
>
> Forgot to mention: the button is already running for some
> weeks (you may remember) at:
>
> http://gfoss.it/drupal/
>

it would be cool to have possibility to donate money for given task,
see [1] for inspiration.

Martin

[1] http://www.qgis.org/wiki/index.php/Bugs

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[Markus Neteler]

On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 9:52 PM, Martin Landa <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> 2009/5/8 Markus Neteler <[hidden email]>:
>>>  http://grass.osgeo.org/donation.php
>>
>> Forgot to mention: the button is already running for some
>> weeks (you may remember) at:
>>
>> http://gfoss.it/drupal/
>>
>
> it would be cool to have possibility to donate money for given task,
> see [1] for inspiration.
>
> Martin
>
> [1] http://www.qgis.org/wiki/index.php/Bugs

Exactly - this we need to establish somehow.

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[Paolo Cavallini]

Markus Neteler ha scritto:
>> [1] http://www.qgis.org/wiki/index.php/Bugs
>
> Exactly - this we need to establish somehow.

If we want to join forces, using a common system, this is most welcome.
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[hamish-2]

Markus:
> >>>  http://grass.osgeo.org/donation.php

Martin:
> > it would be cool to have possibility to donate money
> > for given task, see [1] for inspiration.

from the donation.php page:
"Also bug fixing may be financed - community polls will identify outstanding problems which cannot be fixed on a voluntary basis."

I think the individual 'bug bounty' approach qgis is using is a
really good one because it is very directed. We provide people
who need a certain feature fixed a way to make it happen. And it
removes any chance of vocal minorities dominating the task
selection process if the person giving the money decides.

The other side is the poison to a community trust that an overly
vague setup can cause. Debian has still not fully recovered from
their venture into this game last year. ("why should they get
paid and not me?" mentalities killed people's motivation to
volunteer their time...)

The other danger to community spirit is someone directly funding
a core devel to add some new feature, and then their being bad
feelings if that feature is only added to the core because of
money instead of quality/popular need. (as opposed to
bug-bounties) I guess the linux kernel devels deal with this
all the time. anyone follow the LKML enough to know how they
deal with it?

so +1 for directed bug-bounties, but I think anything else needs
us to take much care and pass & publish clear RFCs.


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[Markus Neteler]

Dear PSC,

On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 6:46 AM, Paolo Cavallini <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Markus Neteler ha scritto:
>>> [1] http://www.qgis.org/wiki/index.php/Bugs
>>
>> Exactly - this we need to establish somehow.
>
> If we want to join forces, using a common system, this is most welcome.
> All the best.
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QGIS has established a nice sponsorship program:
http://qgis.org/en/sponsorship.html

I think that this is a great example for us. Sharing a common
system as Paolo suggests might be a good idea.
Opinions?

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[Dylan Beaudette]

On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 12:27 AM, Markus Neteler <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Dear PSC,
>
> On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 6:46 AM, Paolo Cavallini <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Markus Neteler ha scritto:
>>>> [1] http://www.qgis.org/wiki/index.php/Bugs
>>>
>>> Exactly - this we need to establish somehow.
>>
>> If we want to join forces, using a common system, this is most welcome.
>> All the best.
>> --
>> Paolo Cavallini: http://www.faunalia.it/pc
>
>
> QGIS has established a nice sponsorship program:
> http://qgis.org/en/sponsorship.html
>
> I think that this is a great example for us. Sharing a common
> system as Paolo suggests might be a good idea.
> Opinions?
>
> Markus

I think that more donations will be favored by a formalized,
professional-looking, and simple the donation process. Anything we can
do to make that happen is a "good thing" in my opinion. How does this
approach deviate from anything that OSGeo has to offer?

Nice work!

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[hamish-2]

> QGIS has established a nice sponsorship program:
> http://qgis.org/en/sponsorship.html

one thing that is unclear to me is what different levels of sponsorship
buys you?

- a logo (advertising) on the main homepage?
- preferential access to developers & and expectation that their bugs
get fixed first?
- nothing in return beyond a better product and a warm feeling?


i.e. what's the business case to get it past the accounting dept?
what would it take encourage a sponsor to renew the following year?
are we willing to do that?


keen to watch how this works out for qgis,
Hamish



     

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[Paolo Cavallini]

Dylan Beaudette ha scritto:

> I think that more donations will be favored by a formalized,
> professional-looking, and simple the donation process. Anything we can
> do to make that happen is a "good thing" in my opinion. How does this
> approach deviate from anything that OSGeo has to offer?

Hi all.
I agree that finding a proper way of organizing all this is very
important. We have been discussing these issues several times over the
years, and never found a convincing solution. So, suggestions (and, even
better, implementations) are most welcome.
I decided to go straight with a very simple page, to see the reactions
from the community: on the base of this, we can decide how to proceed.
Anyway, collaboration at least between GRASS and QGIS, and possibly also
with other OSGeo projects, would be most welcome.
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[Paolo Cavallini]

Markus Neteler ha scritto:
> QGIS has established a nice sponsorship program:
> http://qgis.org/en/sponsorship.html
>
> I think that this is a great example for us. Sharing a common
> system as Paolo suggests might be a good idea.
> Opinions?

Sorry I was unclear: there are in fact two initiatives, one for
sponsorship and one for bugfixing:
http://www.qgis.org/wiki/Bugs
Collaboration would be useful for both.
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[Massimiliano Cannata]

Hi,
how does it fit with OSGeo sponsorship program?

I man, GRASS is part of OSGeo and OSGeo get sponsorship at different levels.

- Does GRASS have the right to get a portion of these founds?
- What OSGeo think about project sponsor programs?

I mean, if I give money to support OSGeo, I think I'm sponsoring all of
the OSGeo projects.. isn't it?

I think a general guideline on shponsorship (fundation, projects, local
chapters, etc..) should be discussed within OSGeo.

Does anyone have better information on that?

Maxi


Paolo Cavallini wrote:

> Markus Neteler ha scritto:
>  
>> QGIS has established a nice sponsorship program:
>> http://qgis.org/en/sponsorship.html
>>
>> I think that this is a great example for us. Sharing a common
>> system as Paolo suggests might be a good idea.
>> Opinions?
>>    
>
> Sorry I was unclear: there are in fact two initiatives, one for
> sponsorship and one for bugfixing:
> http://www.qgis.org/wiki/Bugs
> Collaboration would be useful for both.
> All the best.
>  

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[Markus Neteler]

On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 12:04 PM, Massimiliano Cannata
<[hidden email]> wrote:
> Hi,
> how does it fit with OSGeo sponsorship program?

Fits well :)

> I man, GRASS is part of OSGeo and OSGeo get sponsorship at different levels.
>
> - Does GRASS have the right to get a portion of these founds?

Yes.

> - What OSGeo think about project sponsor programs?

That's accepted and done in various projects.

> I mean, if I give money to support OSGeo, I think I'm sponsoring all of the
> OSGeo projects.. isn't it?

Right.
In our case we are doing project specific funding which is possible
only for big sponsors at OSGeo level:
http://www.osgeo.org/sponsorship/opportunities

> I think a general guideline on shponsorship (fundation, projects, local
> chapters, etc..) should be discussed within OSGeo.

Uhm, why that?

> Does anyone have better information on that?

Please check the archive - it has been discussed several times...
See also
http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Microdonations

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[Massimiliano Cannata]

Thanks for the information,
I see this is in line with OSgeo policy and I have no objection at all.
(I didn't want to be negative, I just had some thought and personal
considerations.)

The Qgis Sponsorship and Donation program look well structured, and we
can take inspiration from that.

Here are some other questions that I have:
- Do GRASS need to be a legal entity to manage donations and
sponsorship? (probably OSGeo can do it for GRASS if required)...
- What kind of implication can it have in terms of administration?
- How to transparently allocate resources? (This is something that I
think should be discussed to ensure donors to see how their $$ are
effectively spent.)

Maxi




Markus Neteler wrote:

> On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 12:04 PM, Massimiliano Cannata
> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>  
>> Hi,
>> how does it fit with OSGeo sponsorship program?
>>    
>
> Fits well :)
>
>  
>> I man, GRASS is part of OSGeo and OSGeo get sponsorship at different levels.
>>
>> - Does GRASS have the right to get a portion of these founds?
>>    
>
> Yes.
>
>  
>> - What OSGeo think about project sponsor programs?
>>    
>
> That's accepted and done in various projects.
>
>  
>> I mean, if I give money to support OSGeo, I think I'm sponsoring all of the
>> OSGeo projects.. isn't it?
>>    
>
> Right.
> In our case we are doing project specific funding which is possible
> only for big sponsors at OSGeo level:
> http://www.osgeo.org/sponsorship/opportunities
>
>  
>> I think a general guideline on shponsorship (fundation, projects, local
>> chapters, etc..) should be discussed within OSGeo.
>>    
>
> Uhm, why that?
>
>  
>> Does anyone have better information on that?
>>    
>
> Please check the archive - it has been discussed several times...
> See also
> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Microdonations
>
> Markus
>
>  

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Istituto Scienze della Terra
Scuola Universitaria Professionale della Svizzera Italiana
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[Massimiliano Cannata]

Yes, I've seen http://grass.osgeo.org/donation.php

But maybe we should set up a page for solved issues and spent money,
and define rules on how to access these money for bug-fixes or new
developments.

Maxi


Markus Neteler wrote:

> On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 12:04 PM, Massimiliano Cannata
> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>  
>> Hi,
>> how does it fit with OSGeo sponsorship program?
>>    
>
> Fits well :)
>
>  
>> I man, GRASS is part of OSGeo and OSGeo get sponsorship at different levels.
>>
>> - Does GRASS have the right to get a portion of these founds?
>>    
>
> Yes.
>
>  
>> - What OSGeo think about project sponsor programs?
>>    
>
> That's accepted and done in various projects.
>
>  
>> I mean, if I give money to support OSGeo, I think I'm sponsoring all of the
>> OSGeo projects.. isn't it?
>>    
>
> Right.
> In our case we are doing project specific funding which is possible
> only for big sponsors at OSGeo level:
> http://www.osgeo.org/sponsorship/opportunities
>
>  
>> I think a general guideline on shponsorship (fundation, projects, local
>> chapters, etc..) should be discussed within OSGeo.
>>    
>
> Uhm, why that?
>
>  
>> Does anyone have better information on that?
>>    
>
> Please check the archive - it has been discussed several times...
> See also
> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Microdonations
>
> Markus
>
>  

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Responsabile Area Geomatica
Istituto Scienze della Terra
Scuola Universitaria Professionale della Svizzera Italiana
Via Trevano, c.p. 72
CH-6952 Canobbio-Lugano
Tel: [phone]
Fax [phone]

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