Do i get a free saturday?

[BIGC]

I went to a j rt.after mail-count,I asked my p.m. about a free sat. and she said she never heard of it.I"ve been reading about it and I want to take off Monday  June29 through Saturday July 4.  Its my Saturday to work,how many annual days will i be charged?Would i be better off to request leave from Friday,July 3-trough Friday July 10.Also,whats the diffrence in l-wop and free Saturday?

[scrwd]

I believe you need to have all six days off in the same week  Sat July 4 might even be a different payperiod from monday the 29th.  I might be wrong but i believe if you want that sat free thats the day your vacation needs to start

[sherriK]

I think it is on the union website.  The free Saturdays are just that, free.  LWOP is completely different.  I am an H route.  I took 6-27 as a free Saturday, 6-29 through 7-3 are annual, but 7-3 defaults to my holiday, and 7-4 becomes my free Saturday.  You need 5 leave days in the pay period to get the free Saturday, and the holiday counts as a leave time for all intents and purposes.  I've been doing this since 2008,  it is a good deal. In the end you get charged for 4 days.   The PM needs to fill out your time card as the free day as annual, and it works out right.  It is a good way to try to keep your 2080 under control also.  

[manOman]

BIGC, the May issue of our magazine carried a pretty comprehensive explanation of the Free Saturday provision, including how it would work over the July 4th holiday. This link should get you there (not sure if you have to sign in):

http://http://www.nrlca.org/userfiles/File/magazine/2009/200905.pdf

Scroll down to page 200 to read about Free Saturdays, and be sure to take note of this:


Note: The appropriate leave balance on the
check stub (Form 1223) must reflect a minimum
of 6 days leave (annual and/or sick) to qualify
for the “Free Saturday(s)”.

If you look under "General Info" over on the left side, you'll see that Postal Texan has a loooong list of items, including Free Saturdays:

http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dzdzj27_13d8tw2c


++++Also,whats the diffrence in l-wop and free Saturday?++++

LWOP = Leave WITHOUT Pay
Free Saturday = paid leave NOT charged to your leave balance = BIG DIFFERENCE

[sherriK]

I forgot you had to have a minimum of days of annual to be eligible for the free Saturday, and that it was in the magazine recently.  Thanks for setting me straight also.  

[RogerR]

A few comments on what's been posted here:

Also,whats the diffrence in l-wop and free Saturday?

LWOP means no pay for that day, Free Saturday you get paid without charge to your annual.

I believe you need to have all six days off in the same week  

I don't think so, the 6 days can be in different weeks and even different pay periods.

if you want that sat free thats the day your vacation needs to start

Nope, the 6 consecutive day streak can start and end on any day.

you have to take either sick or annual leave from sat to sat  to get the free day. if you do it mon thru sat it won't work.

Incorrect.  Mon thru Saturday will work just fine as long as none of the days are relief days, and all will be taken as AL, SL or Holidays.

[Retiring Soon]

"I think it is on the union website.  The free Saturdays are just that, free.  LWOP is completely different.  I am an H route.  I took 6-27 as a free Saturday, 6-29 through 7-3 are annual, but 7-3 defaults to my holiday, and 7-4 becomes my free Saturday"


SherriK.. Because you are an H route July 3rd is not your Holiday. July 3rd would only be your holiday if July 4th was your scheduled day off as either a J route or a K route.  Because July 4th fell on a Saturday this year H and J routes don't get a that day as free. It would be a paid holiday. You should be charged for 5 days annual off.

[sherriK]

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I was only charged for 4 days annual.  I think the holiday got pushed to Friday for the free Saturday.  In any case, my pay was right.  Sherri

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"I think it is on the union website.  The free Saturdays are just that, free.  LWOP is completely different.  I am an H route.  I took 6-27 as a free Saturday, 6-29 through 7-3 are annual, but 7-3 defaults to my holiday, and 7-4 becomes my free Saturday"


SherriK.. Because you are an H route July 3rd is not your Holiday. July 3rd would only be your holiday if July 4th was your scheduled day off as either a J route or a K route.  Because July 4th fell on a Saturday this year H and J routes don't get a that day as free. It would be a paid holiday. You should be charged for 5 days annual off.

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[Retiring Soon]

Sherri.. I don't know how your holdiay got pushed to Friday. You can only have your holiday pushed to another day if your scheduled day off is a holiday. Because your an H route you have no scheduled day off. Your pay should be right, its the days that they are charging you that would be wrong.

[RogerR]

sherriK,

Just to clarify, just like for BIGC, it is the Free Saturday that got pushed to Friday, not your Holiday.

It is irrelevant to you for pay and leave purposes, but it may confuse others trying to figure out the logic of how it works.

[Retiring Soon]

I just found the provisions that explain how to get your free saturdays when it involves a holiday.

If a Holiday falls within the period of five otherwise
chargeable days, the leave balance is
reduced by only four (4) days, and there is no
leave charged for the Saturdays within or at the
end of the period.
When the leave period ends on a Saturday,
which is also a Holiday, the preceding Friday is
considered to be the Holiday. Both Saturdays are
free, and the leave charge is four (4) days.
The situation is a little different if the first day of
the leave period is a Saturday and also a Holiday.
To take full advantage of the free Saturday provision,
it would be necessary to begin the leave
period on the preceding Friday. The Friday
would be considered the Holiday, and the
Saturday would be free, and five (5) days annual
leave would be charged. If the leave period began
on Saturday instead of the Friday, five (5) day
would be charged.

I asked and answered my own question. That is what is so helpfull with this site. I don't understand why this free saturday thing has to be so complicated.